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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on December 29, 2011, 08:09:16 PM
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Nothing to chat about except Rutgers v Fla OT on ESPN 2 :'(
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Anyone at the game got a a score to post? Still got Rutgers on ESPN.
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V-6 M-2
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Crowder 0 for 5
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MU 0 for 7 Gardner with 2 fouls
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espn3
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missing CO so badly...DG with 2 stupid/quick fouls...pushing off and out of position on a rebound...
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Our offense is so bad. Like embarassingly bad. Anytime a team turns it over DJO just puts his head down and does something braindead to give the ball back
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Un fricken believable. Double OT. Piss in me off!!!
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Up in northern wi - we get the 20T rutgers- Florida instead of switching to Marq. Argh.
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Up in northern wi - we get the 20T rutgers- Florida instead of switching to Marq. Argh.
Up nord eh? How much ice you got?
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We look nervous. Jimmy Dykes kind of hinting MU overrated. MU 0 for 9. Said MU to small.
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ESPN3...our lack of size is killing us.
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Our offense is so bad. Like embarassingly bad. Anytime a team turns it over DJO just puts his head down and does something braindead to give the ball back
They are running a different motion set then they have been previously. Let's just relax a bit...shots will fall.
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ESPN3...our lack of size is killing us.
our lack of size kills us because we cant shoot.
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our lack of size kills us because we cant shoot.
This is correct. We are getting very good shots though.
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Mayo Thinks Hes Jordan out there chill out young fella
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Literally wow
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V - 11 M - 4
0-11 shooting
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we have no point guard and no center...makes it hard to watch.
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Terrible start! Come on Marquette
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Sounds like watching the Rutgers game is saving me some early angst.
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I will never speak negatively of Otule again. We clearly suck without him
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Wow they suck. Likely a bottom team in the big east.
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18-4 No points in 8 minutes
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I will never speak negatively of Otule again. We clearly suck without him
How does missing Otule mean Crowder misses two FTs and we miss about 6 shots inside 5 feet?
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Wow they suck. Likely a bottom team in the big east.
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18-4....maybe will be lucky and get triple ot
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Wow, Vander couldn't have had a much worse last 2 minutes and it didn't even involve a shot
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Rutgers wins
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Wow. Just wow. Can't run offense, can't play defense, can't rebound, picking up the dribble 25 feet from the basket, missed lay ups, 3 pointers that miss 4 feet right. No size, nobody attacking off of the dribble.
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I think we will be fine in the long run but WOW!!!! This is like a nightmare combination of last year's UNC game and the '07 MSU game.
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Wow. Just wow. Can't run offense, can't play defense, can't rebound, picking up the dribble 25 feet from the basket, missed lay ups, 3 pointers that miss 4 feet right. No size, nobody attacking off of the dribble.
No size? 1-15 shooting is abysmal. a joke at home.
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what a horrendous start.....getting decent shots and can not hit a thing...defense starting to look shaky too. Not a showing you want at home, on national tv, and last game before conference play. Still early, but, look like a lost team to start an important game after a layoff and before the BEast starts.
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0/13?!?!
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How does missing Otule mean Crowder misses two FTs and we miss about 6 shots inside 5 feet?
you cant be serious
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Can we go back to the Rutgers game?
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Good to watch Rutgers' freshmen play inspired ball rather than our third straight game of inept offense, and the frustration carrying over to the other end.
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Yep. Our jump shooting woes continue. Deny MU the paint and we are a diaster
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No size, thats all they keep saying about MU.22-6. Are you kiddin me!
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So what time does the Marquette game start?
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Blow Out!
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And to top it off Vandy is hot.
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Need to get this within 10 by halftime....wait....need to score at least 10 by halftime.
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We look awful, and not ready.
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Either Vandy is actually an NBA team or Marquette is a high school team
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NIT
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No size, no shooting, settling for j's, no paint touches outside of Jae...
Wilson plays smaller than his height.
The list can go on and on...
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How does missing Otule mean Crowder misses two FTs and we miss about 6 shots inside 5 feet?
It means we can blame everything that goes wrong for the rest of the season on the Otule injury and be forever blameless.
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I have never seen a team shoot so cold.
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North Carolina all over again. Embarassing on national tv.We show no heart.
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No size, no shooting, settling for j's, no paint touches outside of Jae...
Wilson plays smaller than his height.
This is the essence of the problem. We don't get enough inside scoring. Only one reliable inside wing (Jae) and he is undersized.
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What is a reverse turkey? When you stop yourselves from scoring 3 straight times? This is really ugly. I guess everyone is due a clunker, but, at home and trying to finish off non-conference play strong? wow.
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wow what a joke, we should be out of the top 25 for this one
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I have never seen a team shoot so cold.
This is much more that "cold" shooting, our entire offense looks completely inept.
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North Carolina all over again. Embarassing on national tv.We show no heart.
"Heart" isn't the issue. We cannot shoot.
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2-20 from the field.....
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It means we can blame everything that goes wrong for the rest of the season on the Otule injury and be forever blameless.
Who wants to tangle underneath other than Jae?
Nobody (except Davante).
Vander can't shoot.
Todd's turning the ball over.
DJO's tail is between his legs.
Junior has been attacking the rim. I don't blame him. Who's gonna be there?
JWil settles for outside shots.
Buzz has more three point attempts than DWil.
craziness...
Buzz better have some adjustments.
And go recruiting for some bigs.
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Refs calling mercy fouls for us at this point. I'm four strong beers deep at this point with no plans to slow down. We can't even score from the line!!!
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Haven't been this embarrassed by MU since the nightmare against Kansas....but at least that was in the Final Four. Tough to regain credibility unless we turn this around big time. Really thought DJO was gonna be a force this year. He, and everybody else, look awful.
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apparently "AND ONE" for our team means we get fouled and we make only one of the free throws. I'm so sick of somebody shouting out and one when we dont even make the bucket, its sad.
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2-20 from the field.....
we have no jump shooters. DJO is a huge disappointment in big games.
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Refs calling mercy fouls for us at this point. I'm four strong beers deep at this point with no plans to slow down. We can't even score from the line!!!
You should probably down a shot of tequila everytime we hit a 3 going forward....you will either bring us great luck or pass out and miss this atrocity.
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All I read on this board all week was how underrated we are at #13.
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Who wants to tangle underneath other than Jae?
Nobody (except Davante).
Vander can't shoot.
Todd's turning the ball over.
DJO's tail is between his legs.
Junior has been attacking the rim. I don't blame him. Who's gonna be there?
JWil settles for outside shots.
Buzz has more three point attempts than DWil.
craziness...
Buzz better have some adjustments.
And go recruiting for some bigs.
+1000 for DJO, or as he should be nicknamed in this half: MIA. This is absolutely baffling. This board may melt down tonight. The trolling will be off the charts.
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Buzz needs to get a real shooter (where are you Jamail?) and always have 3+ Bigs on the team (Jamil doesnt count).
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They can just pack the middle with size,no rebounds for us. I knew lack of size would kill us. early burial
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We have been to the NCAA tournament for successive years and are a top 30 program perenially.....why do always get "project" big men? Clue me in please.
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defense was supposed to the difference between this team being #15-25 or #1-10. the offense was supposed to be consistent and bring the scoring every night. has there been any evidence that the offense is that good this year? at all?
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You should probably down a shot of tequila everytime we hit a 3 going forward....you will either bring us great luck or pass out and miss this atrocity.
Sounds like the best case scenario either way. Love your thinking.
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All I read on this board all week was how underrated we are at #13.
+1, the problems with this team have been alarming since Otule went down.
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"Heart" isn't the issue. We cannot shoot.
maybe not heart, but brains wouldn't hurt. i understand a bad shooting night...i don't understand giving up so many open threes, not boxing out, making stupid fouls when we're already missing CO, etc. mayo turns the ball over but he's trying to be agressive. djo, shooting step back jumpers all night. he's blowing it big time in front of a lot of NBA scouts...too bad.
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Refs calling mercy fouls for us at this point. I'm four strong beers deep at this point with no plans to slow down. We can't even score from the line!!!
I'm breaking out the Makers Mark now.
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DJO and Crowder are really disappointing right now as our seniors. This should be the type of game they step up and shine. Vandy looks hungry as hell for this game and we look tentative on both ends.
Still a LOT of season left but like the UW game showed some of our best....this is showing our absolute worst. Which team are we this year ane which team will we be in the conference?
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If we can't make our shots, at least make them free throws.
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With the play of Festus the airing of grievances should be particularly brutal this year...
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Worst half of basketball I have seen since I started watching them in 1987.
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Worst half of basketball I have seen since I started watching them in 1987.
Did you miss the Dukiet years?
This is brutal, though...agreed.
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Is the team revolting against Buzz for not following up with iPad 2s this year? Searching for anything...possibly the beer kicking in...
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this team - as it has played tonight, against UW-M and LSU, looks like a Big east bottom feeder...
not a good trend, may be a very long Big East season...
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Did you miss the Dukiet years?
This is brutal, though...agreed.
I was a student through the Dukiet years...even they never started 2-20.
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How can Crowder keep shooting?
I mean...really....not even a decent shot and he just turns and heaves?
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we just cant score. Got a turkey on D..........but cant score.
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Ugh, get a turkey on defense and turn each one of the stops into a crummy forced jumper. Time to stop braggjng about how we don't practice offense.
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One thing Crowder is doing very well tonight: flopping. Vlade Divac would be proud.
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I dont want to overreact, Marquette always seems to prove my worries wrong with a bad loss once a year, but with the trend over the past 4-5 games (since, Otule left vs Wash U) I have to say that I am very, very concerned.
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I might take Candelino, Powell, Flory, Nethen, Anglavar, Baldwin, Posey and Tony Smith over this bunch tonight.
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I dont want to overreact, Marquette always seems to prove me worries wrong with a bad loss once a year, but with the trend over the past 4-5 games (since, Otule left vs Wash U) I have to say that I am very, very concerned.
+1
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Joe "The Animal" Nethen is just what this team could use right now. Knock some skulls with combat boots on.
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cant make anything......even free throws
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Hate to hear the boo birds.....always hate booing college kids, no matter how pooerly they are playing.
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w/o a center what can you do? we really came out lost. play some D. They are shootin open threes. clanking free throws.
jimmy dykes thinks MU is way overrated.
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Maybe Jimmy is correct.
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Hate to hear the boo birds.....always hate booing college kids, no matter how pooerly they are playing.
I disagree. They're playing poorly and they should be booed. I love and root for these guys, don't get me wrong, but they're grown men going to college for free, why shouldn't the fans let them hear it when they play this poorly?
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Half time. Everyone run for the fridge or the liquor cabinet. No excuses. Even if you have work tomorrow. You have to be smart enough to keep some sick days in your back pocket right?
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MU way over-rated (expecially Crowder and DJO)... looks like winning at Madison was an anomoly, have played like crap since... 9-9 in Big east will be lucky....
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7 for 31 from the field (21%) 1 for 8 from three.
7 for 14 from free throws (50%)
At our house. I can't imagine what the Syracuse game is going to be like.
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Did you see the dunk Vandy missed! Stick a fork in them, they're done.
This was supposed to be in teal.
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Half time. Everyone run for the fridge or the liquor cabinet. No excuses. Even if you have work tomorrow. You have to be smart enough to keep some sick days in your back pocket right?
Spot on.
Vandy is 7/12 from 3, we are 1/8
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This team has never passed up shot they liked.
Likewise, they've never met a rebound they liked.
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Half time. Everyone run for the fridge or the liquor cabinet. No excuses. Even if you have work tomorrow. You have to be smart enough to keep some sick days in your back pocket right?
I had to upgrade from Makers to the 107 proof bottle of Baker's just to stomach this crap.
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Half time. Everyone run for the fridge or the liquor cabinet. No excuses. Even if you have work tomorrow. You have to be smart enough to keep some sick days in your back pocket right?
Scotch time.....soak in some Lagavullin and watch to see if MU shows any life and character in teh 2nd half.
Enjoy the spirits, at least.
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I don't think JJ will ever see the court when there are fouls to be taken - those wer 2 of the worst bricks I've seen in a while.
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This team has never passed up shot they liked.
I feel like that's got to be an extension of Buzz's "take the first best shot" philosophy. But they shots they take aren't the "best"
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Scotch time.....soak in some Lagavullin and watch to see if MU shows any life and character in teh 2nd half.
Enjoy the spirits, at least.
Just poured myself a glass as well... I can't be as high brow. 12 year Dewars will have to do.
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This game is over. The Vandy players are up on there toes and MU has no poise. We shoot 22% on a national stage against a team that lost to Indiana State? Buzz is being outcoached by a mediocre Stallings.
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Scotch time.....soak in some Lagavullin and watch to see if MU shows any life and character in teh 2nd half.
Enjoy the spirits, at least.
Just popped two sleeping pills and am washing it down with a laphroaig 10yr.
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I don't think JJ will ever see the court when there are fouls to be taken - those wer 2 of the worst bricks I've seen in a while.
And Jones was a shooter coming out of high school. His confidence has been shot during his time at MU so far. Hope he finds his stroke soon.
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We're killing them on the offensive boards, 10 to 5! But of course we've had more misses to rebound.
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Just poured myself a glass as well... I can't be as high brow. 12 year Dewars will have to do.
If we win this game.... I will send you a bottle :)
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Just popped two sleeping pills and am washing it down with a laphroaig 10yr.
Laphroaig is tasty....and smoky...
Enjoy your slumber...when you wake up hopefully the MU vs. Vandy game will start...
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Where is the senior leadership. This must feel like practice for Vandy
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If we win this game.... I will send you a bottle :)
haha no ice or mixer, I promise!
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Completely embarassing! Obviously, they'e getting theire A##@s handed to them...AT HOME! I hope Buzz has a few good words...and adjustments... at the half to make this a game.
I watched them for decades and the effort and overall play this past half has been some of the worst I have seen the Warriors play....ever!!
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Completely embarassing! Obviously, they'e getting theire A##@s handed to them...AT HOME! I hope Buzz has a few good words...and adjustments... at the half to make this a game.
I watched them for decades and the effort and overall play this past half has been some of the worst I have seen the Warriors play....ever!!
I disagree. The effort is there. Lazy shot selection, and the fact that the ball won't go in the hoop is the problem.
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Switching from miller lite to Gentleman Jack. At least there's something about Tennessee I can enjoy tonight.
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This game reminds me of a game my Sophomore year where we got crushed at Minnesota 100-66 on national TV. We made Randy Beuer look like a superstar that night.
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vander might be the worst finisher i can remember in a long time for as much hype as he has gotten. HE IS TERRIBLE trying to finish shots
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Does anyone think Buzz needs to dial back the intensity of the pre-game workouts? I hear over and over again how those are more intense then some teams regular practices. Does it take too much out of them?
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Does anyone think Buzz needs to dial back the intensity of the pre-game workouts? I hear over and over again how those are more intense then some teams regular practices. Does it take too much out of them?
I don't think so. They haven't played for a week.
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Any chance anything in this thread will cheer me up?
Didn't think so.
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Maybe Crowder and DJO are thinking about all the NBA scouts in the audience?
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Have not been impressed with Junior AT ALL this season. And he has been beyond brutal tonight. Always jumps before he passes. It is so dumb and causes turnovers more often than not.
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This was over from the get-go.
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Out for the night with a bunch of IU grads...couldn't be more depressed.
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Dykes put it best when he said this is a case of perception meeting reality. We had the perception of being a top 10-15 team, but tonight we are getting seriously exposed in every area. Knew it was bad when we were down 18-4 before the Rutgers game even ended.
Just poured my third glass of wine.
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Yeah, Cadougan is just awful tonight.
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Ugh....after watching our two pgs drive and turn the ball over on consecutive possessions and then watching Vandy drill another 3....I can not stomach any more basketball tonight. Signing off and enjoyed the discourse....much more than the game (which I was really looking forward to all week).
Hopefully we will flushg this turd down the toilet and get ready for Villanova.
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Reality has set in big time tonight, and yeah its HARSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I disagree. The effort is there. Lazy shot selection, and the fact that the ball won't go in the hoop is the problem.
Lazy shot selection suggests lack of effort and preparedness. You cannot deny they are being out hustled on their own floor and Cadougan jumps for a rebound after two foul shots for Crowder when he has three shows me his head is not in the game!!
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Ouch! No confidence, no big man, no win
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Top 20 teams don't lose the way we lost to LSU and the way we will lose tonight....big difference is we have terrible and lazy ball movement
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Even before tonight I knew that this team was not that big, especially without Otule, so we don't rebound that well or score inside. We are also not a very good outside shooting team so that puts a lot of pressure on our defense, which has been terrible. I would take a 12 point loss right now.
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Yeah, Cadougan is just awful tonight.
couldn't disagree more. He's been awful more than just tonight. It's just showing more tonight.
Can VAndy miss now and then?
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Out for the night with a bunch of IU grads...couldn't be more depressed.
Well there's your first mistake.
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Must be nice to have four guys 6'9" or taller on your roster like Vanderbilt has. The one guy who is taller than 6'8" for MU is likely done for the year. Please let Durly at least be able to play 5 minutes a game next year....
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vander might be the worst finisher i can remember in a long time for as much hype as he has gotten. HE IS TERRIBLE trying to finish shots
I have tried to be optimistic about vander up til this point... But how many wide open layups can the dude miss? Seriously...
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When 2 of your starters don't score at all, it's pretty tough to expect any success.
As for Durley, I really don't expect anything from him next year. Didn't someone say he's not even getting time playing on his high school team? If that's the case, what do they really expect him to be able to contribute?
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Must be nice to have four guys 6'9" or taller on your roster like Vanderbilt has. The one guy who is taller than 6'8" for MU is likely done for the year. Please let Durly at least be able to play 5 minutes a game next year....
This is why I can't understand why people on this board have touted our great depth. If you are in the Big East and have 1 active player over 6'7", depth is a serious problem.
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This is why I can't understand why people on this board have touted our great depth. If you are in the Big East and have 1 active player over 6'7", depth is a serious problem.
Exactly.
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We do have great depth, except in the middle. Why didn't we play D like this at the start, i put that on the coach.
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How can you put the fault of defense on someone not on the floor?
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Now we need to start hoisting threes.
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turning this train wreck off.
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Down 20 at 6 minute mark and Buzz just cleared the bench. Oh boy......
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has there ever been a team that folds more often on national TV than Marquette? Honestly?!??! please tell me.....good lord i am fuc*ing sick of this $hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I would like to know how we prepared for this game when we had a week to prepare for Vandy. Maybe the boys thought they had an easy game with "unranked" Vandy, enjoyed some eggnog and played some xbox. Whereas, Vandy had a "must win" situation. Vandy was a previously ranked team with very high pre-season expectations.
I am very disappointed in both MU's lack of preparedness AND performance tonight!!
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I would say play the starters and try to make this look respectable, but Buzz has to be thinking about Villanova in 3 days. This is a loss, and we HAVE to win that game with road games at Georgetown and Syracuse next.
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This really sucks.
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We never even made a half hearted run.
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Yeah, Cadougan is just awful tonight.
The whole team.
Spare Jae. He's the only one hitting the paint hard, though he's started off horribly and his FTs couldn't go down.
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Where is our home court pride? Dykes said even Buzz knew we aren't a top twenty team.
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Wasted a pretty good looking crowd. Looks like a number of students made it there despite it being break.
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Way to finish with a half ass attempt at a layup getting swatted.
In the words of Mike Tyson, everyone thinks they have a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
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Good lord.
Moderators, shut this board down till an hour befor the nova game to avoid your servers melting down ;)
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The only way this could have been worse was if Crowder had gotten hurt playing in garbage time. I like Buzz, but not sure what he was thinking there in the final minute.
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We need a teabagger. A dude who's not afraid of the defender and flushes the ball while wiping his scrot across the d's face.
This team lacks aggression. Getting prissy and cute for this MU fan.
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A definite National Television embarassment. This will help our national rep and our recruiting!
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I had been upbeat about Vander's improvement. That's gone after this.
When looking for a comeback, we had Van, DWil (although he made a nice move for a hoop, though it appears that like Junior, he can only go R) and others on the floor. The announcers nailed it - if it isn't # 1, 4, or 32, they are backing off big time. People have us sussed out.
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This game is over. The Vandy players are up on there toes and MU has no poise. We shoot 22% on a national stage against a team that lost to Indiana State? Buzz is being outcoached by a mediocre Stallings.
Mediocre? He's 2-0 against Buzz. Has to recruit to a place like Vanderbilt and seems to get his club in the NCAAs fairly routinely of late.
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Buzz got worked. they had us down pat and we never figured it out. Can anybody tell me what if any halftime adjustments were made?
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All this drinking and only one person bothered to drink anything worthwhile? Miller Lite, Maker's, Baker's, Dewars?! If you're going to keep a bottle or more of something on hand for times like these, at least make it something worthwhile. Yeesh. Cheers to the Laphroaig drinkers even though I'm more of a bourbon drinker (Eagle Reserve doesn't last long in my house).
Also, MU sucked last night.
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Got a bottle Jimmie Beam black for New Years. Nummy. Any leftovers will be consumed for the arse whoopin victory celebration against Nova.
Arrrrrrrh