Two choices as I see.
Gardner (12/7/4) No turnovers. Got their guys in foul trouble early. No fouls in second half.
Junior (15/7/1) Really aggressive to the hole.
I go Gardner.
Tony Meier
Gardner was the SOTH (Stud of the Half) in the first half. Cadougan SOTH in the second half. Tough call.
Cadougan
Gardner..
I say you split it between davante and junior.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 22, 2011, 10:12:48 PM
Tony Meier
I agree. As much as we get on Jae, at least he can figure out its not his night before going 0-9 from 3
It sure as hell wasn't Vander.
Junior Junior Cadougan
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 22, 2011, 10:12:48 PM
Tony Meier
He's the post-MNF Ben Roethlisberger POTG:
QB Ben Roethlisberger, who threw three interceptions and lost a fumble to the 49ers: "I feel like I let down the team, the fans, the coaches. It's very frustrating. I was probably the best 49er tonight."Gardner. Eagle closest with a triple-double: 12 pts, 7 reb, 4 ast, 0 TO.
On a serious note, I say Davante as well.
Split it between Gardner and Junior...both were a big reason for the ugly W tonight.
Quote from: DCWarriors04 on December 22, 2011, 10:18:16 PM
Split it between Gardner and Junior...both were a big reason for the ugly W tonight.
Fair enough. They constituted 42% of the team's points, 39% of rebounds, 45% of total FGs made.
Coo-Coo-Cadougan
I vote for the final buzzer. Best part of the game.
Cadougan
Ugly game. Take the W and enjoy the Xmas break.
By default, Junior. Although I think he had one drive less than DJO on which he was out of control.
Nice to see him take and make the threeball too.
Quote from: ecompt on December 22, 2011, 10:16:16 PM
It sure as hell wasn't Vander.
Careful, according to some he's a late first round draft pick this year.
Cadoogie Howser
I had Junior in a very close one over Gardner. Hopefully we can get some excitement back with some time off after two ugly games this week.
As George T says, "Coo-Coo Cadougan"
Man, I wanted to strangle Cadougan at times with those ill-advised drives, but they started falling in the second half. But all-around, I gotta go Gardner. Maybe it's the idea of a PG with 1 assist, but I thought DG did really well and kept up with the pace better tonight.
Honorable mention to Derrick Wilson, who at times looked like our best post defender not named Otule. He was making life tough on both Haarsma and #21 (don't know his name) down low. Looked like a runt, but did admirably considering.
Junior.
Imagine the game where Jr and Ox play like they did tonight AND Jae and DJO show up.
Holy cow.
Let's hope it happens soon, and consistently.
Wild card is Buzz. Can he coach them into consistency? I'm counting on it.
Go Warriors!!!!!!
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 22, 2011, 10:54:42 PM
Honorable mention to Derrick Wilson, who at times looked like our best post defender not named Otule. He was making life tough on both Haarsma and #21 (don't know his name) down low. Looked like a runt, but did admirably considering.
Ugh, but did you happen to watch DW on offense (when he was left in?) UWM literally left him unguarded. Not a good situation for Marquette. I think he's doing what Buzz is asking of him, but he's going to have to show SOME offensive capability so that other teams respect him.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 23, 2011, 12:05:24 AM
Ugh, but did you happen to watch DW on offense (when he was left in?) UWM literally left him unguarded. Not a good situation for Marquette. I think he's doing what Buzz is asking of him, but he's going to have to show SOME offensive capability so that other teams respect him.
It'll show up. His shooting form is actually pretty good (much better than Cadougan's, from what I've seen), so I think he'll be able to knock down the mid-range jumpers once he gets some confidence.
On a side note, I'd vote for Davante.
Since Otule went down, there has been but one consistent for the Warriors - Davante Gardner. Everyone else has been up and down (pun intended). The following question can be applied to the other nine Warriors, but not to Davante - will he be 0 for 9, and have 5 turn-overs, or will he score 18, with 4 assists? Mr. Gardner is playing consistent ball, and is improving. On a team that looked tired last night, Davante almost looked fresh. He is a very, very smart player - draws fouls, scores points, rebounds, sets jarring picks, has assists (!), and is starting to play defense. As noted in previous posts, he is like Wes Unseld. Gardner deserves to be STOG.
Coo-coo cachoo...Caudogan!
Junior.
Junior. Because we won with him taking 11 shots. Maybe that was the problem at LSU. He stopped at 10.
Gotta lean toward the Ox on this one.
I vote Junior. Dae-Dae will have his day--may of them--but Junior opened it up for a stronger game down under anyway.
Cadogan.
Understand his assists were low, but that's a result of UWM's D playing off and letting him shoot. He even mentioned in the post game that they held to their assignments and didnt help on him, so he was really the only option at times.
IMO, taking what the D gives you is a sign of a good PG.
Too bad JC is "offensively bankrupt"...
Better give it to Junior, He needs to get the SOTG while he can. I'm not counting on him getting another one when BEAST play starts. :-X
Junior kept it together both halves. Would have had a handful of assists but MU missed a ton of shots. After the first blow by to start the game by Williams, Junior played a pretty good defensive game (he and Wilson did a nice job on Kaylon whose line was 3-12 from the field, 2-8 from three, 3 assists but 4 turnovers). Junior got 7 boards off the long rebounds.
Gardner was very good, but MU gave up a lot of interior rebounds off the misses to yield 19 offensive rebounds. MU won 3 out of the 4 factors with offensive rebound rate going to UWM. Since this game was about perimeter defense, Junior gets my nod.
The coaching staff for designing such a brilliant game plan which allowed our crappy PG to be our leading scorer ::)
Juinor all the way.
Gardner was decent too, although the bonehead technical (picking up 3rd foul in 1st half in the process) removes him from consideration IMO. Can't do that against good teams (and they're all going to be pretty good moving forward) when we have no big bodies behind him. Have to be smarter than that.
I will go with Junior over Gardner, because he did not get a technical. Gardner has got to learn not to complain about calls. I do see a lot of improvement in Gardner's game. Cadougan's assists were low, because you cannot get an assist if the shooter cannot hit the shot. With about two minutes to go in the first half there were what I thought were two statistical oddities. MU had 9 fouls and was pretty sure UWM had not shot any free throws at that point. The 7th, 8th and 9th fouls by MU were charges. The other oddity was that Blue was 0-3 and all three misses came on one possession. I wonder what the record is for shots taken by one player on a single possession? The fact that I notice these oddities shows how boring the game was.
Junior. Still a few drives where he got caught in no man's land but overall great game. I can just hear buzz in practice telling guys to ge to the rack rather than settle for the cheap 3.
Oh, and I want to give an honorable mention to Mello. In just a couple minutes of play, he had two fantastic assists that stood out for me.
Quote from: jsglow on December 23, 2011, 09:45:23 AM
Oh, and I want to give an honorable mention to Mello. In just a couple minutes of play, he had two fantastic assists that stood out for me.
Agreed. It seems to me that it's starting to click for him a little bit. Much less of a chucker than he has been...learning how to play within the system. Hopefully he can have a breakout game soon to get his confidence going. He can be a good contributor for this team.
I have been thinking about this a bit more, and I am even more convince that Davante was the key to that game last night. He kept racking up UWM fouls, grabbed rebounds with authority, and dished out a few assists. Junior had a very good game too, but Davante set the tone early and when the game still was in a bit of doubt.