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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 🏀 on December 19, 2011, 11:28:42 PM
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This rumor have any legs?
6'4", 200# switchable sophomore from Kentucky.
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From articles I've read about him it sounds like his father is the driving force behind the transfer possibility. Dad was All-SEC back in the early 90s. Not sure about the MU rumors, but it sounds like son and father are a package deal.
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it sounds like son and father are a package deal.
Ahem... Maymon... Ahem
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Transfers mean other transfers. Do not like it. He can take Thomas's scholly 2nd semester, then somebody has to go.
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Transfers mean other transfers. Do not like it. He can take Thomas's scholly 2nd semester, then somebody has to go.
Gotta think Durley will end up at a JUCO for a year.
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Gotta think Durley will end up at a JUCO for a year.
Where theres smoke there's fire...
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He can take Thomas's scholly 2nd semester, then somebody has to go.
I don't believe this is possible as scholarships are one year renewable contracts.
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I don't believe this is possible as scholarships are one year renewable contracts.
Correct. If he were to come in midseason, he'd have a scholarship. MU is only at 12 with Thomas.
Would make for an interesting summer.
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The juco story is tiring. The transfer story is tiring as well.
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Even though Poole was a top 30 recruit, MU does not need another SG/SF. With Mayo, Anderson, Taylor, Blue, Jones and Ferguson, that is enough. Unless someone has a change of heart after the season.
It is apparent after last night that MU needs a PG, one that actually has some offensive skills. Look at that freshman Hickey from LSU, he just destroyed Junior on both ends. Derrick Wilson is a good defensive PG, but has not displayed any offense. After 11 games, what does he have, like 5 points? Yes, some will argue that it is not the PG role to score, but some points or an outside scoring chance would be nice.
As far as Durley, who knows, is he still not starting on his high school team?
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Durley isn't even gettin in the games!
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I'm not going to question the recruiting of Durley right now, especially after a game where the mere presence of a physical 6'10", 270-lb center could have meant the difference in the game.
Poole would be a great addition, and would be a decent shot to pave the way for his brother Solomon (#9 overall in Rivals 2013) to come take over as that five-star PG we've all been dreaming of. But the only way we have room for both of them is if someone else leaves. Might someone be declaring for the draft early? Maybe not as far-fetched as it sounds. But aside from that, it means someone transferring out.
Also, Poole doesn't really fill a direct need at the moment. Our main need is for more strength inside. Poole would fill the same role as Blue, Mayo, Jones, Anderson, and Ferguson, all of whom are here for at least 2 more years. Not sure how much legs this story will end up having.
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Agree w/nyg on the need for a PG. JR may have had only 2 TOs last nite, but his poor judgment (no way he should be taking 10 shots in a game), offensive ineptitude and defensive woes are painful to watch.
And Durley's not even in getting into games?! Is he hurt?
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It seemed to me that Junior took 10 shots because nobody else was making good decisions and he was trying to lead when no one else was. The shots he took weren't bad shots. He just didn't make them. If DJO/Clinic/Vander had their collective heads out of their collective abefromans' he wouldn't have shot so much.
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Wonder if taking Poole would be considered just to get near the top of the list for his brother, a top 2013 point. Though I wouldn't mind a 2012 point instead if we're still looking.
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It seemed to me that Junior took 10 shots because nobody else was making good decisions and he was trying to lead when no one else was. The shots he took weren't bad shots. He just didn't make them. If DJO/Clinic/Vander had their collective heads out of their collective abefromans' he wouldn't have shot so much.
+1. Getting off topic, but Junior's decision making was not a problem last night. Not that he played great or anything, but I had no problem with the shots he was taking, as he seemed like the only G/wing we had that could get himself a decent shot.
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The thing is, JR can't make those shots. B/c unless he's shooting an uncontested layup, most of what he puts up are equivalent to turnovers.
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The thing is, JR can't make those shots. B/c unless he's shooting an uncontested layup, most of what he puts up are equivalent to turnovers.
Well then MU has a problem, can't start two guards that have 0 offensive value. Blue needs to figure put how to play point. And if otule is in 60% of our team can't score.
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Then Buzz must be using pixie dust and jedi mind tricks to have this team 10-1 if the whole team sucks.
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Did you ever stop to think that Junior was the only guard out there who was doing what they were all supposed to be doing, which was attacking the defense and trying to drive to the basket? Probably not, why let an actual fact get in the way of all the post-loss bashing?
The rest of our perimeter guys were standing around, passing around the perimeter, and if they did drive they were throwing up weak layup attempts. At least Junior was really attacking the basket, trying to draw contact, and finishing strong on some of them.
He played better than any guard on our team not named DJO.
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Amen and alleluia, ATL. Except I think it could be argued he fulfilled his role better than DJO filled his.
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Stacey would be a great addition to Marquette! He was a top 40 guard coming out of Florida. Even though he didn't get any playing time at UK, he practiced against some of the pest players in the nation everyday.
He has yet to play the year, so he'd be able to play right away next season. I had a class with him this semester and he is a really nice kid. I talked to him about him transferring and it seems like the 2 main concurs for him are pt and location.
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Seriously, ATL MU Warrior? Ever stop and think about these facts? He hot 3 for 10 (0 for 2 from 3), bricked his only FT attempt and had 1 assist and 2 TOs.
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1) Playing time - MU is overload at his position
2) Location - Florida (home) to Wisconsin ????
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Amen and alleluia, ATL. Except I think it could be argued he fulfilled his role better than DJO filled his.
Junior had a few boneheaded moments last night, but I agree that he at least showed some fight and was aggressive going to the hoop. Mayo did too, although he had a hard time getting there last night. DJO and Vander were the 2 BIG letdown performers of last night. Vander was practically invisible on the offensive end - much like he was last year in the Big East. Seems length and athleticism really neutralize Vander as he doesn't have the solid perimeter game yet..
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The juco story is tiring. The transfer story is tiring as well.
Not tiring when someone transfers every year. Just the way it is. Just read online his brother is a big time PG recruit, would be nice if it's a package deal.
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Junior had a few boneheaded moments last night, but I agree that he at least showed some fight and was aggressive going to the hoop. Mayo did too, although he had a hard time getting there last night. DJO and Vander were the 2 BIG letdown performers of last night. Vander was practically invisible on the offensive end - much like he was last year in the Big East. Seems length and athleticism really neutralize Vander as he doesn't have the solid perimeter game yet..
Vander was struggling offensively, BUT he had 6 rebounds (2nd behind Jae), 3 assists and no turnovers. And he was strong defensively. He also ran the point late in the second half when Junior went out.
He is a work in progress, but still way beyond where he was last year.
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Not tiring when someone transfers every year. Just the way it is. Just read online his brother is a big time PG recruit, would be nice if it's a package deal.
The original poster you quoted is a Syracuse fan...the comment was a dig at MU - about the juco and transfer thing...just an FYI..
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Seriously, ATL MU Warrior? Ever stop and think about these facts? He hot 3 for 10 (0 for 2 from 3), bricked his only FT attempt and had 1 assist and 2 TOs.
Holy crap look at the box score for all the guards/wings on the team and tell me who, other than DJO (and maybe Vander) played better than Junior last night?
Then, think back to the actual game and try to remember which guard on our team was playing aggresively and actually trying to execute our offensive game plan. You know, taking it hard to the rim and drawing contact/finishing through contact.
Then, consider that LSU might have done a good job defensively in taking DJO, Vander, Mayo out of the game to make someone else beat us and think back to who was trying to pick up the slack? That forced him into a role he doesn't normally play, but at least he had the guts to try.
He wasn't perfect, but he was near the best of a bad bunch last night. He wasn't nearly as bad as you seem to want to imagine he was.
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Poole would be a great addition, and would be a decent shot to pave the way for his brother Solomon (#9 overall in Rivals 2013) to come take over as that five-star PG we've all been dreaming of. But the only way we have room for both of them is if someone else leaves. Might someone be declaring for the draft early? Maybe not as far-fetched as it sounds. But aside from that, it means someone transferring out.
Huh? No, that is EXTREMELY far fetched. What freshman, sophomore, or junior on this team is going to declare for the draft? I don't want to sound like I'm ripping on this team after a loss, because I think we are a very good team (although I don't think our resume is as impressive as some here think, I think the jury is still out on how good this team truly is...Wisconsin in my opinion is a good win because it was on the road, but they are very overrated this year, and Washington and LSU aren't that great of teams, look at who they've lost to), but there is nobody who should even be thinking about leaving early for the NBA after this season on our team. Who are you thinking?
- Mayo? Maybe after his junior year when he is more of a feature of the offense than a 6th man and has added point guard skills.
- Blue? He's had a very strong start and he has come to understand his role much better, but what NBA team is going to take a strong defender who is very unproven at the point and has absolutely no outside shooting ability. The problem here is that he struggles against teams like LSU, that have length and don't allow him to just drive and dunk. Think he'll get by doing that in the NBA? I don't. He needs 4 years at Marquette.
- Jamil Wilson? Jamail Jones? Chris Otule? Davante Gardner? Junior Cadougan? Derrick Wilson? Juan Anderson? Jake Thomas? Honestly, I don't think I should have had to explain any of these guys. None of the underclassman are anywhere near ready to make the jump to the NBA. And that does not mean I do not think they are good players or do not think they will ever make the NBA. That is still to be seen.
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I knew someone would have that reaction ;D
My first thought is maybe Mayo. Mainly because of his age. If he declared after this year, he'd be entering the draft just 6 months younger as a freshman than JFB was as a senior. I think more than anyone, Todd realizes the short window, and if he averages 10-12 ppg and shows enough potential, he might take a flier, even as a bench player. I think he's far more draftable than say a Jereme Richmond from last year. I still think he's better waiting a year, but he's also older than Blue, so if he waits until his junior year he'll be drafted as a 23-year-old. Not at all the ideal age for a NBA rookie, where the average senior declaring is only 22.
Blue is also a possibility. The NBA drafts largely on potential, and if he can average 10/4/4 as a young sophomore, it wouldn't surprise me if he was projected as a late-first to mud-second rounder.
I don't think either should declare, but that doesn't mean one of them won't.
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ATL MU Warrior, you're doing nothing more than splitting hairs. Pretty lame when your only argument is that our starting upperclassman point guard was our 3rd best perimeter player last nite (he was not better than Vander). Mayo played like a freshman and D. Wilson, by comparison, ALWAYS makes JR look like Kobe Bryant offensively. Plenty of blame to go around, but pardon me for expecting Junior to at least be a competent offensive option at this stage of his career.
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Even though Poole was a top 30 recruit, MU does not need another SG/SF. With Mayo, Anderson, Taylor, Blue, Jones and Ferguson, that is enough. Unless someone has a change of heart after the season.
It is apparent after last night that MU needs a PG, one that actually has some offensive skills. Look at that freshman Hickey from LSU, he just destroyed Junior on both ends. Derrick Wilson is a good defensive PG, but has not displayed any offense. After 11 games, what does he have, like 5 points? Yes, some will argue that it is not the PG role to score, but some points or an outside scoring chance would be nice.
As far as Durley, who knows, is he still not starting on his high school team?
You know that he's playing behind the number third ranked center and eight ranked player overall in this class, right?
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This is descending quickly.
Let's turn the focus toward how we build via UWM and Vandy.
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I think he's far more draftable than say a Jereme Richmond from last year.
There's a 50% chance that I'm more draftable than Jereme Richmond.
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Agree I'd love the transfer. No because we need a switchable this moment, but because every team has unmourned over the season that either sideline - o at least reduce effectiveness of players. I was pretty scary putting 8 players out there, and I don't like having an 11-man roster.
Is he still attending Kentucky now and just hasn't played since 1st semester last year? I don know the rule when the kid transfers in just in time to play as opposed to Maymon actually going to class a Tennessee fo a year before playing.
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What is our connection with him? It seems like his transferring here would be out of the blue. Did Buzz try to recruit him or does he have any close ties to Marquette? Just seems strange that he would think about MU.
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Prolly because he likes how we get up and down the court and play in the Big East.
We need a big guy, an enforcer, a rebounder...
I wish we nabbed God's Gift.
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I think he played on Aaron Bowen's AAU club in FL when we were recruiting him
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What is our connection with him? It seems like his transferring here would be out of the blue. Did Buzz try to recruit him or does he have any close ties to Marquette? Just seems strange that he would think about MU.
Could be just him looking around the top-25 programs for the best fit. We have what, 8-10 guys averaging 10+ mpg? And our two most prolific players will be graduating, leaving behind about 58 open mpg. In addition, Buzz seems to be getting a rep as a developer of NBA talent.
He might not fit our biggest need, but I can see the attraction to an outsider.
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Where did this rumor even come from? I didn't see any links in this thread.
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Where did this rumor even come from? I didn't see any links in this thread.
Seriously wheres the sources at? The only thing i've found is.....
https://twitter.com/#!/Wildcatty11/statuses/148977576625451008