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Title: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: MU Avenue on December 18, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
The Packers' loss today to the Kansas City Chiefs will be coupled with a loss to the Detroit Lions in the final regular-season game.

As I have said and written all season, the Packers defense is incredibly weak and porous. Some here have disagreed, which I find baffling.

Would love to see the Packers go all the way again, but the team remains really vulnerable on defense, as has been true all season, and is now playing bad football on offense, too.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: martyconlonontherun on December 18, 2011, 06:13:04 PM
That's weird. Thought I was Hangin at the Al.


PS. That Packers allowed 19 points. That isn't too bad. The bigger problems were drops and only scoring 14 points against a d that allows 23 per game.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: wadesworld on December 18, 2011, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: MU Avenue on December 18, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
The Packers' loss today to the Kansas City Chiefs will be coupled with a loss to the Detroit Lions in the final regular-season game.

As I have said and written all season, the Packers defense is incredibly weak and porous. Some here have disagreed, which I find baffling.

Would love to see the Packers go all the way again, but the team remains really vulnerable on defense, as has been true all season, and is now playing bad football on offense, too.

Posts like these crack me up.  Playing bad on offense?  So we had 1 bad game and still lead the NFL in offense?  You can say what you want about the defense.  When you have the lead all the time in every game (outside of today) and other teams are playing catchup, they have to be aggressive and throw more, hence more completions and yardage.  That's just how it goes.  But to say "and is now playing bad football on offense, too" is insane.  One of the best wide receivers in the league will be back when games start to matter again for the Packers.  Didn't know you had to go 19-0 to be playing good football.  LOL
Title: There is no denying that the Packers are playing bad football these days
Post by: MU Avenue on December 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
Keep watching, wadesworld, and you will see. This Packers team is playing bad football these days on both sides of the ball.

The defense has been awful all season and the offense, including the play of Aaron Rodgers, has regressed badly in recent weeks.

A 14-2 regular-season record will have been a terrific season. But even at 14-2, this team, already terrible defensively, is fading badly on offense and is in no way the force that people want to believe.

I hope the Packers bring home another NFL championship. I doubt it will happen.
Title: Re: There is no denying that the Packers are playing bad football these days
Post by: wadesworld on December 18, 2011, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: MU Avenue on December 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
Keep watching, wadesworld, and you will see. This Packers team is playing bad football these days on both sides of the ball.

The defense has been awful all season and the offense, including the play of Aaron Rodgers, has regressed badly in recent weeks.

A 14-2 regular-season record will have been a terrific season. But even at 14-2, this team, already terrible defensively, is fading badly on offense and is in no way the force that people want to believe.

I hope the Packers bring home another NFL championship. I doubt it will happen.

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?!  They had ONE bad game on offense in FOURTEEN GAMES so far!  How are they playing bad football on offense?!  Did they today?  Yes.  I am not arguing with that.  They also have injuries at the O line which will be figured out come playoff time and their biggest playmaker not named Aaron Rodgers will be back come playoff time. "The offense...has regressed badly in recent weeks."  WHAT?!  Let's look at the scoring output the offense has put up in "recent weeks" (since the bye):

Week 9: 45 points
Week 10: 45 points
Week 11: 35 points
Week 12: 27 points
Week 13: 38 points
Week 14: 46 points
Week 15 (this week): 14 points

ONE bad week in the "recent weeks."  Where has it been fading?  What do you want?  A hundo a week?  This is insane.  ONE bad week.  After NINETEEN straight wins.  Again, I did not know you had to go 19-0 and put up 50 points per game to be playing "good football."  No bad weeks allowed in an NFL season.  This "fading" offense is actually playing BETTER (outside of today) than it did before the bye week.  Before the bye week the scores were:

Week 1: 42 points
Week 2: 30 points
Week 3: 27 points
Week 4: 49 points
Week 5: 25 points
Week 6: 24 points
Week 7: 33 points

Again, not sure where you're getting this idea that in "recent weeks" the offense has "regressed badly."  If by recent weeks you mean this week alone, then yes, you are correct.  It's one bad week.  Get a clue.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: Hards Alumni on December 19, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
All this goes to show how truly spoiled Packer fans are.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of Wades and MU Ave's posts.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: Freeport Warrior on December 19, 2011, 11:30:52 AM
I think the home field will actually work against them. As it's gotten colder, they seem to be droppping a ton of balls. The Packers are built on a speed and precision passing game, much better suited in domes and great weather -- almost untouchable. Without a great running game or solid O-line, they are definitely in trouble regardless of record IMO.
Title: Re: There is no denying that the Packers are playing bad football these days
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on December 19, 2011, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: MU Avenue on December 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM

The defense has been awful all season and the offense, including the play of Aaron Rodgers, has regressed badly in recent weeks.

A 14-2 regular-season record will have been a terrific season. But even at 14-2, this team, already terrible defensively, is fading badly on offense and is in no way the force that people want to believe.


Is that the same Aaron Rodgers who didn't play the whole 4th quarter last week vs. the Raiders?
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: MUEng92 on December 20, 2011, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on December 19, 2011, 11:30:52 AM
As it's gotten colder, they seem to be droppping a ton of balls.

Didn't I hear it was 50 degrees in KC for the game?
Title: Re: There is no denying that the Packers are playing bad football these days
Post by: ATWizJr on December 20, 2011, 07:14:51 PM
Quote from: MU Avenue on December 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
Keep watching, wadesworld, and you will see. This Packers team is playing bad football these days on both sides of the ball.

The defense has been awful all season and the offense, including the play of Aaron Rodgers, has regressed badly in recent weeks.

A 14-2 regular-season record will have been a terrific season. But even at 14-2, this team, already terrible defensively, is fading badly on offense and is in no way the force that people want to believe.

I hope the Packers bring home another NFL championship. I doubt it will happen.
The best defensive measure is points allowed.  In this, the Packers are 14th in the league which puts them in the top half.  They also lead the league in interceptions.  Fading badly on offense?  This team leads the league in scoring offense and is averaging 34+ points per game including averaging 30 the last 2 games.  More importantly they also lead the league in scoring differential.  Here's a comparison of the top teams in scoring differential:

Packers 183
Saints  151
Niners   142
Pats  140
Ravens  98
Falcons 60
Steelers  57
Cowboys 52

Wade's World is right.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: only a warrior on January 04, 2012, 04:29:57 PM
Quote from: MU Avenue on December 18, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
The Packers' loss today to the Kansas City Chiefs will be coupled with a loss to the Detroit Lions in the final regular-season game.

As I have said and written all season, the Packers defense is incredibly weak and porous. Some here have disagreed, which I find baffling.

Would love to see the Packers go all the way again, but the team remains really vulnerable on defense, as has been true all season, and is now playing bad football on offense, too.

You are a complete moron. 
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: The Lens on January 10, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
The NFL does not want defense.  The rules have changed, the game has changed.  Best "O" wins.  That's why GB will repeat, over New England.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: swoopem on January 10, 2012, 04:03:52 PM
Baltimore over San Fran 20-17, defense still wins
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2012, 04:04:58 PM
Joe Flacco and Alex Smith?   :D  Now that made me laugh.

Saints over Packers, Patriots over Ravens.

Saints over Patriots.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: The Lens on January 11, 2012, 08:56:58 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 10, 2012, 04:04:58 PM
Joe Flacco and Alex Smith?   :D  Now that made me laugh.

Saints over Packers, Patriots over Ravens.

Saints over Patriots.

This is a prediction I can get behind.  Has no one been paying attention?  You can't touch the QB, you can't jam receivers, you can't hit over the middle.  America cried like babies after watching the SEC play defense on Monday night.  Goodell knows this, and he knows Techmo Bowl wins ratings.



Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: reinko on January 11, 2012, 10:11:27 AM
Baltimore's DST is vastly overrated.  They had the 2nd weakest schedule in the league, and people still think just because they have Ed Reed and Ray Lewis they are "elite".  Look for Arian to go HAM this weekend, and I will gladly take the points, and at 3-1 might take a flyer on the Texans to win.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: Freeport Warrior on January 16, 2012, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on December 19, 2011, 11:30:52 AM
I think the home field will actually work against them. As it's gotten colder, they seem to be droppping a ton of balls. The Packers are built on a speed and precision passing game, much better suited in domes and great weather -- almost untouchable. Without a great running game or solid O-line, they are definitely in trouble regardless of record IMO.
+1 to myself. Wisconsin back to normal.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: tower912 on January 16, 2012, 08:24:39 AM
Yup.   The offense sucked and the defense, while adequate, wasn't good enough to overcome the crap offensive performance. 
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: MU B2002 on January 16, 2012, 08:27:49 AM
Quote from: reinko on January 11, 2012, 10:11:27 AM
Baltimore's DST is vastly overrated.  They had the 2nd weakest schedule in the league, and people still think just because they have Ed Reed and Ray Lewis they are "elite".  Look for Arian to go HAM this weekend, and I will gladly take the points, and at 3-1 might take a flyer on the Texans to win.


Only postseason game I have lost so far this year picking against the spread.  Stupid half point.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 16, 2012, 09:21:06 AM
I love the fresh smell of sanity this morning.
Title: Re: Packers will finish regular season with 14-2 record
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on January 16, 2012, 09:42:58 AM
Time to pack the chessehats away for another year
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