http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/dec/15/smith-must-get-ncaa-clearance-playing/
UNLV's Reggie Smith unlikely to make UNLV debut against Illinois
Reggie Smith's perfect homecoming will likely be held up by paperwork.
Smith, a sophomore transfer from Marquette, thought that his first game for UNLV would be in his hometown of Chicago against Illinois. However, as that game nears, there are still several steps that have to be taken in order for him to play, and the Rebels may not have time to make them all happen.
The NCAA bylaws require a player to wait until after the completion of the school's semester before competing. UNLV's fall semester doesn't technically end until Saturday, which means that the Rebels have to request a special waiver from the NCAA in order for Smith to be eligible on Saturday instead of Sunday.
In order for that to happen, first all of his grades — Smith is in five classes — have to be posted. Only after that is completed can UNLV attach those to the waiver form and send it electronically or via fax to the NCAA. As of 8:45 p.m. Thursday, his grades had still not been posted.
Even if they were, though, the decision is out of UNLV's hands at that point. Smith has passed all of his classes with the required grades, but there's no way of knowing how long it would take for the NCAA to review the documents and make a ruling.
The team's flight for Chicago on Friday is at about noon.
There's still a slim chance that the pieces could fall into place for the guard, but it appears his debut will be at home Monday against Louisiana-Monroe.
He didn't play. UNLV beat Illinois in Chicago today.
Count me as one who thought Reggie was a nice player, although I think D Wilson has huge upside. UNLV is really good. Illinois is terrible and, despite a lot of recent hype, the Big Ten is not very deep. Ohio St. Good. Everybody else? OK. I actually think MU would win the Big Ten with a healthy Otule.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 17, 2011, 06:16:17 PM
UNLV is really good.
I thought UNLV was really good after they beat UNC at the Orleans Arena. But then beat UC-Santa Barbara in double OT and lost at Wichita St. They lost @ a down Madison squad and beat a weak FIB team. They are okay but not really good. Sophomore UCLA transfer Mike Moser IS really good!
I disagree on UNLV. Wisconsin is really good this year, and i believe will finish in the top 10. Even if Illinois is overrated as a current top 25 team, traveling to their place for the win really validates the win over UNC - one of the 4 favorites for the national title.
i wish Reggie the best. Loved his hustle on defense. I believe he would be our 12th player right now, but would sure like the extra body after having us already having gone through one game with only 8 players. But i believe Derek is a huge upgrade because he just doesn't turn the ball over - and Reggie did look like a freshman with some of his long passes that were picked last year.
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on December 18, 2011, 12:40:36 AM
I disagree on UNLV. Wisconsin is really good this year, and i believe will finish in the top 10. Even if Illinois is overrated as a current top 25 team, traveling to their place for the win really validates the win over UNC - one of the 4 favorites for the national title.
i wish Reggie the best. Loved his hustle on defense. I believe he would be our 12th player right now, but would sure like the extra body after having us already having gone through one game with only 8 players. But i believe Derek is a huge upgrade because he just doesn't turn the ball over - and Reggie did look like a freshman with some of his long passes that were picked last year.
Disagree. Wisconsin is not "really good". They may end up doing well in the Big Ten this year, but I just don't think they have the talent they usually have.
Quote from: mu77vegas on December 17, 2011, 09:57:19 PMI thought UNLV was really good after they beat UNC at the Orleans Arena. But then beat UC-Santa Barbara in double OT and lost at Wichita St. They lost @ a down Madison squad and beat a weak FIB team. They are okay but not really good. Sophomore UCLA transfer Mike Moser IS really good!
They still beat UCSB, and Wichita State is a good team. Five senior starters, first two off the bench are juniors, have to figure they're favorites to win the MVC, and that league could put 3-4 teams in the tournament this year.
As far as Wisconsin, I don't know about their talent level, but with Bo's system, they'll be really good. They won't get blown out by anyone because of they slow it down so much. The odds are they won't lose another at the KC this year. At a minimum, I imagine they'll beat Nebraska, Illinois, Penn State, and Iowa on the road. If they split roadies at Purdue, Michigan, Minnesota, and Michigan State, that's a 26-5 team going into postseason play.
Maybe that's not "really good", but it's still probably good enough for a 2-4 seed in the tournament, and 15-3 in the Big Ten will have them in contention for another league title.
I think UNLV does have a lot of talent. Right now they seem to be searching for their identity under new coach Dave Rice. They could be a force by tourney time. As for Wisconsin: Any team that loses the experience and talent of a Nankivil and Leur will have a hard time replacing them. I think it's really affected Jordan Taylor's game. Illinois always gets talented players but I don't trust Bruce Weber to get the most out of that talent.
It will be interesting to see how Reggie Smith works into the rotation and if his outside game has improved.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 18, 2011, 06:22:49 AM
Maybe that's not "really good", but it's still probably good enough for a 2-4 seed in the tournament, and 15-3 in the Big Ten will have them in contention for another league title.
15-3 in the B16? Holy crap! If they do that AND I lose my bet against Chicos on Nov 1, 2012, then I'll double the bet and wear IU stuff around for 2 days straight! When else am I going to wear that crap!
For the record, here's the bet...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=15620.msg150604#msg150604
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 18, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
15-3 in the B16? Holy crap! If they do that AND I lose my bet against Chicos on Nov 1, 2012, then I'll double the bet and wear IU stuff around for 2 days straight! When else am I going to wear that crap!
For the record, here's the bet...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=15620.msg150604#msg150604
Could you please ask Chicos if he still believe Kevin Stallings would be better as MU's coach than Buzz Williams?
Quote from: Ners on December 18, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Could you please ask Chicos if he still believe Kevin Stallings would be better as MU's coach than Buzz Williams?
Don't forget Keno Davis, Chris Lowery or Bob McKillop.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 18, 2011, 06:22:49 AM
As far as Wisconsin, I don't know about their talent level, but with Bo's system, they'll be really good. They won't get blown out by anyone because of they slow it down so much. The odds are they won't lose another at the KC this year. At a minimum, I imagine they'll beat Nebraska, Illinois, Penn State, and Iowa on the road. If they split roadies at Purdue, Michigan, Minnesota, and Michigan State, that's a 26-5 team going into postseason play.
Maybe that's not "really good", but it's still probably good enough for a 2-4 seed in the tournament, and 15-3 in the Big Ten will have them in contention for another league title.
If UW goes 15-3 in conference play then the Big 10 is nowhere near as good as advertised. They're 0-1 in the Big East and haven't even played a road game yet.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 18, 2011, 10:59:14 PM
Don't forget Keno Davis, Chris Lowery or Bob McKillop.
You guys have it all wrong. It wasn't about the decision. It was about the process. All those guys should have been interviewed, according to chico's. That is the issue he had with it all. ::)
Quote from: Ners on December 18, 2011, 10:26:28 PM
Could you please ask Chicos if he still believe Kevin Stallings would be better as MU's coach than Buzz Williams?
Let it go. He's not here.
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/smith-s-debut-for-rebels-finally-at-hand-135846013.html
Smith's debut for Rebels finally at hand
By Matt Youmans
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Posted: Dec. 19, 2011 | 1:59 a.m.
Final exam week at UNLV brought Reggie Smith to his knees. He was concerned about grades, but not because his five classes were too much to handle.
If Smith's grades were not posted by Friday morning, he would not be allowed to travel with the basketball team to his hometown of Chicago, where the Rebels played Illinois on Saturday.
Last week, Smith said, he was "praying every night" that he would be eligible to play. But when the team flight departed, the prayers went unanswered and his homecoming was canceled.
"I was really hurt and disappointed," he said. "But I got over it pretty quickly."
After a two-day delay, Smith is set to take flight when UNLV (11-2) hosts Louisiana-Monroe (1-10) at 7 p.m. today at the Thomas & Mack Center. The sophomore, who transferred from Marquette in January, will see minutes as a backup point guard.
Before the Rebels defeated 19th-ranked Illinois 64-48, coach Dave Rice talked to the team about dedicating the game to Smith.
"Think how you would feel if we were playing a game in your hometown and not only could you not play, you couldn't get on the plane," Rice said. "It would have been a really special time for Reggie. It was important for our guys to play hard for Reggie. We have a really close-knit group."
After the game, junior Justin Hawkins said UNLV's players contacted Smith.
"We did feel bad," Hawkins said. "We really thought he was going to make the trip with us."
Smith, who had planned for a large contingent of family and friends to join him at the United Center, watched the game on TV with Bryce Jones, a transfer from Southern California.
"We were so excited, rooting and screaming for our teammates like cheerleaders," Smith said after Sunday's practice.
Jones is expected to play a major role next season. But the wait is over for the 5-foot-11-inch Smith, an explosive leaper who can push the ball in transition and help crank up the Rebels' pressure defense. He also has been shooting with improved accuracy during practices.
"I want us to play faster," Rice said. "We feel like Reggie can be a game-changing player for us."
Smith will primarily back up senior point guard Oscar Bellfield, who averages a team-high 32.3 minutes, but he also will relieve junior Anthony Marshall. Rice is uncertain how he might distribute minutes to his guards, but he's sure Smith's impact will be significant.
"Those guys are workaholics," Smith said of Bellfield and Marshall. "They work hard in practices and games all the time. My game plan is to be aggressive on defense and offense at the same time, and I believe I can fit in right away with this system."
Working a player into a rotation in the middle of the season can be tricky, but Marshall said Smith is a welcome addition.
"I think the transition for him to get in and play is going to be smooth," Marshall said. "He's a quick guard who can get out in transition and push it, and he can also defend. He's going to help us out a lot. I don't think it's going to be a problem. Reggie is a very intelligent ballplayer."
Smith said his decision to leave Marquette, where he played in eight games and started five last season, was a wise one. He appears tailored for Rice's plan of attack on both ends of the floor.
As difficult as it was for him to sit a season -- and miss his homecoming game Saturday -- Smith survived tougher circumstances growing up in Chicago. He lived on the city's east side and also was a prep star in the south suburbs at Thornton High School.
"Tough neighborhood. You see a lot," Smith said. "I saw so many people get killed, and I saw a lot of robberies. I saw my best friend get shot. The drive-by shootings and stuff like that, it was an everyday thing to the point it was second nature.
"For me coming out of there, I'm blessed. I never was like a follower anyway, so I tried to make my own path, and my path was playing basketball."
Rice said he anticipates Smith will be a popular player with UNLV fans, and Smith is hyped for his debut game, even after waiting another 48 hours or so for it to happen.
"I think it's going to be amazing," he said. "It's going to be a very special moment."
Back-up point guard huh? I thought the reason he transferred was because he didn't want to play the point. Just like Maymon didn't want to be a big, and now he's essentially a 4 at Tennessee.
Sometimes I guess kids just need to hear something else from a second source before they figure things out.
Quote from: mu77vegas on December 19, 2011, 08:01:30 AM
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/smith-s-debut-for-rebels-finally-at-hand-135846013.html
Smith said his decision to leave Marquette, where he played in eight games and started five last season, was a wise one. He appears tailored for Rice's plan of attack on both ends of the floor.
Has this writer not watched Marquette under Williams? Attacking is their entire offense, on top of that they pick up teams full court while shuffling through 10 players.....Good luck to him, but I don't think it was a wise decision.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 19, 2011, 07:54:37 AM
Let it go. He's not here.
Chicos isn't here anymore? Really? It was joke Sultan. Perhaps you can let go of your protective big brother role you seem to relish playing, as well as the overbearing father role...(scolding me) Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Merry X-Mas.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 19, 2011, 09:36:51 AM
Has this writer not watched Marquette under Williams? Attacking is their entire offense, on top of that they pick up teams full court while shuffling through 10 players.....Good luck to him, but I don't think it was a wise decision.
The sentence actually indicates Smith said it was a wise decision, not the writer of the article. Unless his name is also Smith.
Smith did not leave because he wanted to play a different position. He is 5'11" on a good day... he is a PG. Rumor as to why he left is that he did not fit into the Mu culture very well. he did not respond well to Buzz's style of coaching and chose to leave. Nothing against the kid, I hope he does well at UNLV.
With that said i think DWilson will help Mu much more over the next 3.5 years than Smith would have, he is a much better defender and much more solid ball handler and decision maker than Smith was.
Quote from: Ners on December 19, 2011, 09:44:16 AM
Chicos isn't here anymore?
Chicos use to annoy me (us) with his bashing of the decision to hire Buzz. He questioned how long Buzz would last.
Turns out Buzz lasted longer than Chicos!
Quote from: Ners on December 19, 2011, 09:44:16 AM
Chicos isn't here anymore? Really? It was joke Sultan. Perhaps you can let go of your protective big brother role you seem to relish playing, as well as the overbearing father role...(scolding me) Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Merry X-Mas.
Tell funnier jokes then.
Quote from: mu77vegas on December 19, 2011, 08:01:30 AM
Smith said his decision to leave Marquette, where he played in eight games and started five last season, was a wise one. He appears tailored for Rice's plan of attack on both ends of the floor.
And he even had the foresight to know the coach he transferred in to play for was going to leave before he even suited up and Rice was going to be hired!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 18, 2011, 11:17:19 PMIf UW goes 15-3 in conference play then the Big 10 is nowhere near as good as advertised. They're 0-1 in the Big East and haven't even played a road game yet.
I don't think it's much of a stretch. They barely ever lose at home (9 games) and have a favorable road schedule, with 4 near-gimmes. That's 13 wins. Go 2-3 in the other 5 and they're probably a 2-3 seed.
I know, we beat them, the talent is down, but it's Bo-ball. He specializes in challenging for conference crowns with teams just like this.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 19, 2011, 10:37:55 AM
I don't think it's much of a stretch. They barely ever lose at home (9 games) and have a favorable road schedule, with 4 near-gimmes. That's 13 wins. Go 2-3 in the other 5 and they're probably a 2-3 seed.
I know, we beat them, the talent is down, but it's Bo-ball. He specializes in challenging for conference crowns with teams just like this.
Not a stretch at all. Bo knows how to win in the Big Ten.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 19, 2011, 10:37:55 AM
I don't think it's much of a stretch. They barely ever lose at home (9 games) and have a favorable road schedule, with 4 near-gimmes. That's 13 wins. Go 2-3 in the other 5 and they're probably a 2-3 seed.
I know, we beat them, the talent is down, but it's Bo-ball. He specializes in challenging for conference crowns with teams just like this.
UW was manhandled by MU in Madison. Their signature win is at home vs UNLV, a game they lose if Brust doesn't go ballistic (7-7) from 3. They barely beat UWM. If they're 15-3 (or even close to it) in conference this year it will mean the Big10 is nowhere near as good as advertised.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 19, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
UW was manhandled by MU in Madison. Their signature win is at home vs UNLV, a game they lose if Brust doesn't go ballistic (7-7) from 3. They barely beat UWM. If they're 15-3 (or even close to it) in conference this year it will mean the Big10 is nowhere near as good as advertised.
What would be new about that?
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 19, 2011, 10:37:55 AM
I don't think it's much of a stretch. They barely ever lose at home (9 games) and have a favorable road schedule, with 4 near-gimmes. That's 13 wins. Go 2-3 in the other 5 and they're probably a 2-3 seed.
I know, we beat them, the talent is down, but it's Bo-ball. He specializes in challenging for conference crowns with teams just like this.
I am not seeing it this year. I know everyone thinks that Bo can put in pick-up players from the local "Y" and win but I don't think he has the talent this year. The Big Ten is probably the best conference this year and UW is down a bit. That is not a recipe for a fifteen win season.
They will definitely lose at least one more home game this year. Maybe two. I wil give them the benefit of the doubt and say they go 8-1 at home. After that there are three near lock away games. I would guess they go 2-4 in the other six games.
Badgers will prob go 13-5 this year. Very solid record but I am not seeing a 15-3 Big Ten this year.
Yeah, I agree with Dano....in looking at their schedule, I see five losses at least.
pretty sad we have people reviewing and discussing Wiskys schedule. I mean really?
anyone care to guess how many times i have ever looked at their schedule or even know when they play?
Quote from: chapman on December 19, 2011, 10:28:03 AM
And he even had the foresight to know the coach he transferred in to play for was going to leave before he even suited up and Rice was going to be hired!
+1
Lon Kruger recruited Reggie and most UNLV fans complained about his team's slow pace.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on December 19, 2011, 11:38:31 AM
anyone care to guess how many times i have ever looked at their schedule or even know when they play?
Nope.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 19, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
UW was manhandled by MU in Madison. Their signature win is at home vs UNLV, a game they lose if Brust doesn't go ballistic (7-7) from 3. They barely beat UWM. If they're 15-3 (or even close to it) in conference this year it will mean the Big10 is nowhere near as good as advertised.
MU was beaten soundly last night by a team that lost to Coastal Carolina and South Alabama. Weren't they also missing one of their top players lats night? So to put it in your logic and terminology, the Big East is nowhere near as good as advertised based on MU's performance last night. There appears to be a danger in equating an entire conference's performance based on one game or even a small sample of work by one team in which clearly you have not watched all of their games.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 20, 2011, 09:17:02 PM
MU was beaten soundly last night by a team that lost to Coastal Carolina and South Alabama. Weren't they also missing one of their top players lats night? So to put it in your logic and terminology, the Big East is nowhere near as good as advertised based on MU's performance last night. There appears to be a danger in equating an entire conference's performance based on one game or even a small sample of work by one team in which clearly you have not watched all of their games.
So by your logic is it safe to assume UW is significantly worse than Coastal Carolina and South Alabama? And if that is the case, is it safe to assume a Coastal Carolina and South Alabama would finish above UW in the Big 10?
Quote from: Ners on December 20, 2011, 09:35:30 PM
So by your logic is it safe to assume UW is significantly worse than Coastal Carolina and South Alabama? And if that is the case, is it safe to assume a Coastal Carolina and South Alabama would finish above UW in the Big 10?
Not my logic. My judgment of a conference is not based on the performance of one team, it is based on the performance of all teams. The other contributor seems to believe the Big Ten's worth as a conference is tied to the quality of play of one team. We disagree.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 19, 2011, 09:51:14 AM
Chicos use to annoy me (us) with his bashing of the decision to hire Buzz. He questioned how long Buzz would last.
In my conversations with him he has been very complimentary of Buzz. I have been looking for evidence of your claim about not lasting long both here and on Cracked Sidewalks. Do not see any evidence at all that suggests he would not last long. He did say Cottingham wouldn't last long and he was right. Looks like he will be right on Crean and IU as well.
Imagine the heads that will explode next Monday when the polls come out and IU is ranked ahead of Marquette. Some guys here will not know what to do. Let's beat UWM on Thursday, a team we have never lost to and we don't need to start now. Time to get focused.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 20, 2011, 09:17:02 PM
MU was beaten soundly last night by a team that lost to Coastal Carolina and South Alabama. Weren't they also missing one of their top players lats night? So to put it in your logic and terminology, the Big East is nowhere near as good as advertised based on MU's performance last night. There appears to be a danger in equating an entire conference's performance based on one game or even a small sample of work by one team in which clearly you have not watched all of their games.
Unless you watched the game, you can not just look at who they got beat by, they play 3 freshman that very talented and have won there last 5 games. It takes time for freshman
to get it. They shot the ball horribly earlier in the year, were 7-11 from three land, playing at home. MU beats that team in Milwaukee. Give them credit. There are upsets in college
ball all the time, how do you think the kids at Kansas are feeling losing to Davidson. That is why the tournament in March is so great. MU without Otule has no inside presence. To bad he got
hurt. To bad Dominic James got hurt, or Jerel McNeil, it happens. Did the Pack lose to KC?
Back to Reggie Smith since this is the Reggie Smith thread ....
He played Monday against Louisiana - Monroe.
UNLV won 81-63
Reggie logged 9 minutes. 3 points on 1 for 4 shooting (hit a trey), 2 fouls, 1 assist, 3 turnovers and 2 o-rebounds. Lots of activity for just 9 minutes.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=313532439
Reggie Smith will be fine, but he is just a complimentary type player.