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Title: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 12, 2011, 11:53:30 AM
Cuse #1, six BE teams in the Top 20.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: bamamarquettefan on December 12, 2011, 11:55:16 AM
Glad to see bandy back in at 25 before we play them.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on December 12, 2011, 11:59:07 AM
Big East has the best top 6 teams when compared to any other conference.  But the Big East is weak this year from 7-16.  It's a very top heavy league.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: drewm88 on December 12, 2011, 12:15:13 PM
Same for the AP.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/poll/1
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: brewcity77 on December 12, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on December 12, 2011, 11:59:07 AMBig East has the best top 6 teams when compared to any other conference.  But the Big East is weak this year from 7-16.  It's a very top heavy league.

I think WVU and SHU might be decent, but there's a big drop-off in the lower half. If ever there was a year we could win this league this is it, especially with mirrors against Cincy and 'Nova not looking as daunting now.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: Slim on December 12, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on December 12, 2011, 11:55:16 AM
Glad to see bandy back in at 25 before we play them.

This makes me wonder..

For tournament seeding, and the all important RPI and SOS, is the teams ranking at the time of the game important, or is it their ranking at the end of the season that matters. i.e. Vadgers #7 vs Vadgers unranked
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: Marqus Howard on December 12, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: Slim on December 12, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
This makes me wonder..

For tournament seeding, and the all important RPI and SOS, is the teams ranking at the time of the game important, or is it their ranking at the end of the season that matters. i.e. Vadgers #7 vs Vadgers unranked

Both are important, but where they're ranked when we play them is more important.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: MerrittsMustache on December 12, 2011, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: Slim on December 12, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
This makes me wonder..

For tournament seeding, and the all important RPI and SOS, is the teams ranking at the time of the game important, or is it their ranking at the end of the season that matters. i.e. Vadgers #7 vs Vadgers unranked

An opponent's ranking at the time doesn't factor into seeding. Vandy being ranked #1 or #25 when they play MU doesn't make a difference if Vandy goes down the tubes afterwards. Same as beating unranked UWGB could become a "quality win" if UWGB somehow cracked the RPI top 50 at season's end.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 12, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Slim on December 12, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
This makes me wonder..

For tournament seeding, and the all important RPI and SOS, is the teams ranking at the time of the game important, or is it their ranking at the end of the season that matters. i.e. Vadgers #7 vs Vadgers unranked

Where they're arbitrarily ranked by basketball writers has nothing to do with the all-important RPI and SOS.  It does not matter where they are ranked in polls during or after the season for seeding purposes.  RPI is a cold statistical calculation.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: PaintTouches on December 12, 2011, 02:34:52 PM
From ESPN's College Basketball Blog"

"I'm sort of confused: Why isn't Marquette ranked higher? The Golden Eagles are undefeated. Arguably, they got the best nonconference win of any team in the top 10 with the possible exception of Kentucky (which beat North Carolina at home) when they beat Wisconsin in the Kohl Center. Based on sheer results alone, isn't Marquette's resumé, so to speak, better than Baylor's? For that matter, can't we say the same thing about Missouri and Xavier -- two other undefeateds with much more than a win at Northwestern buttressing their positions?"

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/41815/poll-thoughts-syracuse-becomes-third-no-1 (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/41815/poll-thoughts-syracuse-becomes-third-no-1)
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: Skatastrophy on December 12, 2011, 02:59:09 PM
Quote from: pux90mex on December 12, 2011, 02:34:52 PM
From ESPN's College Basketball Blog"

"I'm sort of confused: Why isn't Marquette ranked higher? The Golden Eagles are undefeated. Arguably, they got the best nonconference win of any team in the top 10 with the possible exception of Kentucky (which beat North Carolina at home) when they beat Wisconsin in the Kohl Center. Based on sheer results alone, isn't Marquette's resumé, so to speak, better than Baylor's? For that matter, can't we say the same thing about Missouri and Xavier -- two other undefeateds with much more than a win at Northwestern buttressing their positions?"

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/41815/poll-thoughts-syracuse-becomes-third-no-1 (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/41815/poll-thoughts-syracuse-becomes-third-no-1)

I knew before clicking through to the story that it was written by Eamonn Brennan.  That cat always has our backs :)
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 12, 2011, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 12, 2011, 02:59:09 PM
I knew before clicking through to the story that it was written by Eamonn Brennan.  That cat always has our backs :)

Him, King and Katz have all 3 pretty much had our backs so far this year.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 12, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
IU enters the poll at 18 (AP) and 20 (USAT) this week.  Was unranked last week.

They are 9-0 and have ND this week.  Does their streak end?
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 12, 2011, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 12, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
They are 9-0 and have ND this week.  Does their streak end?

No, ND is atrocious this year.  They've gotten smoked by the two good teams they played (Missouri & Gonzaga) and lost to the only other top 200 teams they played (Georgia & MD).  They were a borderline tournament team with Abromaitis, without him they're basically a Rutgers level squad.  They should be an easy road win for MU, which always helps the RPI.
Title: Re: MU stays at #11 in the ESPN poll
Post by: chapman on December 12, 2011, 09:53:45 PM
Weak sauce from our buddy Scott Wolf.  We were #3 last week in his ballot, if his top two were UK and OSU that would let us be #1, right?  Right?  Come on Scott, we just want to see a (1) next to our name!
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