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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TallTitan34 on December 06, 2011, 10:59:35 PM

Title: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: TallTitan34 on December 06, 2011, 10:59:35 PM
Jae says they have a end of game play they always run and they knew it so they didn't call a timeout.

The play worked perfectly.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: ErickJD08 on December 06, 2011, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 06, 2011, 10:59:35 PM
Jae says they have a end of game play they always run and they knew it so they didn't call a timeout.

The play worked perfectly.

Does that mean they practice a new one now? Cat is out of the bag, right?
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: mu_hilltopper on December 06, 2011, 11:01:30 PM
I was more shocked that UW didn't call a timeout.  As soon as they crossed the timeline, they were out of position and surrounded by MU with 3-4 secs left.  Anything would have been better than that situation .. call TO.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: GB Warrior on December 06, 2011, 11:11:34 PM
Quote from: ErickJD08 on December 06, 2011, 11:00:42 PM
Does that mean they practice a new one now? Cat is out of the bag, right?

It's probably like the 2-pointer in football. Plan it every week in case you need it. That won us the game as it allowed us to attack without them having a chance to prepare. I forget who was there, but we had a rebounder there waiting to pull it down. Great execution all around.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on December 06, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
Do they practice free throws?
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: ATWizJr on December 06, 2011, 11:20:32 PM
Do they practice blocking out on the defensive boards?
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on December 06, 2011, 11:22:40 PM
That was my next question - without any teal!
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: denverMU on December 06, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
JWilson was wide open underneath, Jae could have easily passed it to him for a dunk.  Glad he made the 3 instead.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on December 06, 2011, 11:42:12 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on December 06, 2011, 11:01:30 PM
I was more shocked that UW didn't call a timeout.  As soon as they crossed the timeline, they were out of position and surrounded by MU with 3-4 secs left.  Anything would have been better than that situation .. call TO.

Edit: misread your point.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: Skatastrophy on December 06, 2011, 11:43:21 PM
They practice Jae Crowder deciding to fade-away on his threes halfway through his jump?

Glad he made the shot, but the dude has to knock that crap off.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on December 06, 2011, 11:43:58 PM
I was screaming at Jae for not hitting Wilson, then thanking him for being smarter than me
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: El Duderino on December 06, 2011, 11:44:08 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on December 06, 2011, 11:20:32 PM
Do they practice blocking out on the defensive boards?

I thought the problems on the boards were twofold

1. Washington shot a lot more jumpers and three pointers than Marquette did and long jumpers can lead to unpredictable bounces off the rim.

2. Washington was both longer at at many positions, Marquette also really missed Otule. N'Diaye is a legit 7 foot tall and with Chris out, we had nobody to match up with his size in the paint. When he wasn't grabbing boards himself, he was often tipping around balls to teammates.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: RJax55 on December 06, 2011, 11:46:46 PM
I like that Buzz didn't use a timeout there. Now if Crowder misses that shot, the board is killing Buzz for not calling a timeout and setting up a play.

However, by calling a timeout, you allow the defense to set itself as well. Washington was scrambling during that possession and Crowder had a great look that came within the flow of game (Also Wilson was wide open as well). Far too often coaches draw-up last second plays that the defense snuffs out and all you end up getting is a very difficult, low percentage shot.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: El Duderino on December 06, 2011, 11:49:42 PM
I agree that in general, i prefer the no timeout plan with 15 seconds or less left.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 07, 2011, 07:34:07 AM
Quote from: El Duderino on December 06, 2011, 11:44:08 PM
Marquette also really missed Otule. N'Diaye is a legit 7 foot tall and with Chris out, we had nobody to match up with his size in the paint. When he wasn't grabbing boards himself, he was often tipping around balls to teammates.

Did N'Diaye transfer from Rutgers? He looks so familiar.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: MUMac on December 07, 2011, 08:27:27 AM
Quote from: El Duderino on December 06, 2011, 11:49:42 PM
I agree that in general, i prefer the no timeout plan with 15 seconds or less left.

It's always a coaches feel.  After the fact, the experts knew better.  I tend to defer to the coach.  Sometimes it works (yesterday), sometimes it doesn't.  Either way, doesn't make the decision wrong.  If Crowder missed, would it have been a bad decision not to call a TO?  He got a wide open look with a rebounder underneath and getting position.  Can't ask for more than that.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: APieperFan3 on December 07, 2011, 08:36:47 AM
Quote from: MUMac on December 07, 2011, 08:27:27 AM
It's always a coaches feel.  After the fact, the experts knew better.  I tend to defer to the coach.  Sometimes it works (yesterday), sometimes it doesn't.  Either way, doesn't make the decision wrong.  If Crowder missed, would it have been a bad decision not to call a TO?  He got a wide open look with a rebounder underneath and getting position.  Can't ask for more than that.

Agreed, MUMac. The coach does what he thinks will get the best look/shot. It's all on the players after that.

Novak was open against Alabama, but missed. You get the ball to your Senior leader with a good look....and all you're guaranteed is that he gets to shoot it...
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: boyonthedock on December 07, 2011, 08:37:32 AM
a hammaddi N'Diaye used to play for rutgers, but i think they are different people.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: GGGG on December 07, 2011, 08:38:36 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 06, 2011, 11:43:21 PM
They practice Jae Crowder deciding to fade-away on his threes halfway through his jump?

Glad he made the shot, but the dude has to knock that crap off.


Yeah, but that was a good look.  He had room, and the time, to set his feet.  I don't blame him for that one.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: MerrittsMustache on December 07, 2011, 08:38:46 AM
Quote from: MUMac on December 07, 2011, 08:27:27 AM
It's always a coaches feel.  After the fact, the experts knew better.  I tend to defer to the coach.  Sometimes it works (yesterday), sometimes it doesn't.  Either way, doesn't make the decision wrong.  If Crowder missed, would it have been a bad decision not to call a TO?  He got a wide open look with a rebounder underneath and getting position.  Can't ask for more than that.

Exactly.

Good decision by Buzz to not call a TO because it worked out. Bad decision by Romar to not call a TO because it didn't work out.

On the contrary...If Crowder shoots an airball, bad decision by Buzz. If Gaddy goes coast to coast, good decision by Romar.
Title: Re: Crowder On Postgame
Post by: CTWarrior on December 07, 2011, 09:27:22 AM
Quote from: El Duderino on December 06, 2011, 11:44:08 PM
I thought the problems on the boards were twofold

1. Washington shot a lot more jumpers and three pointers than Marquette did and long jumpers can lead to unpredictable bounces off the rim.

2. Washington was both longer at at many positions, Marquette also really missed Otule. N'Diaye is a legit 7 foot tall and with Chris out, we had nobody to match up with his size in the paint. When he wasn't grabbing boards himself, he was often tipping around balls to teammates.
Missing Otule was part of the problem.  Of the remaining bigs, Gardner is too slow to the ball, J Wilson doesn't box out, and Crowder is often out of position.  This was the first time I've seen the team live, and Washington got a lot of layups because Crowder gambles, anticipates a run out and cheats toward the offensive end of the floor before we secure the ball, and doubles unnecessarily leaving his man open and causing all sorts of defensive rotation problems.
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