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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on December 06, 2011, 08:46:58 PM

Title: Crap...
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on December 06, 2011, 08:46:58 PM
just listening to Homer... Otule's knee "buckled?" Any word from people watching? Is it that bad looking?
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Post by: DCWarriors04 on December 06, 2011, 08:47:30 PM
buddy of mine that's a doc and an MU grad said he probably just tore his ACL
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Post by: MU B2002 on December 06, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
It looked bad.  He planted and his whole knee rotated.
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Post by: Clam Crowder on December 06, 2011, 08:48:14 PM
Looked bad for sure let's pray it is not the acl
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Post by: MUMac on December 06, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
just listening to Homer... O'Tule's knee "buckled?" Any word from people watching? Is it that bad looking?


When he planted his foot, his knee did buckle.  Went down in pain immediately.  Could not pu presure on the knee when leaving the court.
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Post by: fanofTR on December 06, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
He went down like it was a Torn ACL. Have seen many and it looked a lot like that type of injury. Went down in a heap, and grabbed his knee right away.
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Post by: MattyWarrior on December 06, 2011, 08:49:24 PM
Terrible start! We look slow.
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Post by: DCWarriors04 on December 06, 2011, 08:50:17 PM
we can't hit crap and they can't miss.
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Post by: NersEllenson on December 06, 2011, 08:52:02 PM
Heart goes out to Chris...it looked bad...like season ending bad.  We've been punched in the face thus far with Washington just ripping jumper after jumper....should be a real test for this MU team.  We'll see what MU's got...but a terrible start thus far.
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Post by: LovinCrowder on December 06, 2011, 09:03:53 PM

They just said on tv that he sprained his knee and won't be back in the game tonight.....
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Post by: Buchec18 on December 06, 2011, 09:04:39 PM
Whew, dodged a bullet there. Looked like a tear of something initially.
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Post by: MUMac on December 06, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
Whew, dodged a bullet there. Looked like a tear of something initially.

No bullet dodged.  It is always reported as a sprain initially.  Can't determine tears without an MRI.
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Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on December 06, 2011, 09:07:50 PM
on a lighter note anyone have pics of Buzz's jacket for those of us unable to watch?
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Post by: brewcity77 on December 06, 2011, 09:11:19 PM
Not good...I maintain that CO is our most important player. We need him if we want to reach our potential.
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Post by: Marqus Howard on December 06, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
Not good...I maintain that CO is our most important player. We need him if we want to reach our potential.

Agree, and our performance without Junior on Saturday should confirm that we are much better equipped to lose Junior than Chris.
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Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 06, 2011, 09:22:06 PM
Mayo all of a sudden can't dunk?
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Post by: MattyWarrior on December 06, 2011, 09:23:56 PM
Lots of turnovers!
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Post by: MUMac on December 06, 2011, 09:24:15 PM
Mayo all of a sudden can't dunk?

Looked back for the d before he went up.  Can't do that.  Threw off his rhythm.
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Post by: JimmyB! on December 06, 2011, 09:25:40 PM
Whew, dodged a bullet there. Looked like a tear of something initially.

Not in the clear yet. They are always reported as a sprain initially. They won't know the extent of the injury until the MRI is done.
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Post by: mr.MUskie on December 06, 2011, 09:26:16 PM
Mayo all of a sudden can't dunk?

...or layup.
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Post by: esotericmindguy on December 06, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
I forgive him, he's awesome.
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Post by: Warriors10 on December 06, 2011, 09:27:46 PM
Calm down.  Freshman at MSG for the first time.  Rather that happen now than BE tourney.
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Post by: MattyWarrior on December 06, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
We need to slow down a little ,to many turnovers and with all our missed shots,you gotta think we shoot better in the second half.Jae isn't confident with his shots tonite.
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Post by: NersEllenson on December 06, 2011, 09:36:46 PM
No sense in getting on Mayo for the missed dunk/layup...he looks like our most composed player out there.  Crowder needs to get it going.  Not sure if Junior is a better option for us at the point or Derrick Wilson?  Jamil Wilson looks pretty good and aggressive.  Might need to insert Juan for Jae for a few minutes of energy in 2nd half.  Would like to see Jamail get a few minutes too.

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Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 06, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
No sense in getting on Mayo for the missed dunk/layup...he looks like our most composed player out there.  Crowder needs to get it going.  Not sure if Junior is a better option for us at the point or Derrick Wilson?  Jamil Wilson looks pretty good and aggressive.  Might need to insert Juan for Jae for a few minutes of energy in 2nd half.  Would like to see Jamail get a few minutes too.


It's called "frustration".  I'll take Mayo on the floor all night long.  He's one of the few who looks like he has all the confidence in the world.  But DAMN, it's frustrating!
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Post by: NersEllenson on December 06, 2011, 09:45:45 PM
It's called "frustration".  I'll take Mayo on the floor all night long.  He's one of the few who looks like he has all the confidence in the world.  But DAMN, it's frustrating!

No doubt it is frustrating watching us miss point blank shots..for sure.  After the punch in the mouth we took to start the game, all in all, pretty happy we are ahead at the half.  Between the Mayo missed dunk, and Vander's dumb foul at the end of the half which put UW on the line in bonus...those could be 2 huge plays in what appears to be a game destined to go down to the wire.
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Post by: JD on December 06, 2011, 09:48:29 PM
Why does jc play?   ?-(

I think within this year Wilson will be a better pg
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Post by: PVMagic on December 06, 2011, 09:52:08 PM
Why does jc play?   ?-(

I think within this year Wilson will be a better pg

I can think of two examples 1:30 in to this half...
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Post by: JD on December 06, 2011, 10:15:05 PM
Yeah his defense is outstanding as well right?
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Post by: muhoops1 on December 06, 2011, 10:20:40 PM
JC is getting owned.  He looks slow.  Same problems on D as last year.  Guys out of position, slow to rotate and giving up the open 3.

Surprised how Jae is allowing UW big men to dominate the boards.

UW is sloppy and refs are allowing them to slap, climb over the back and get horrible charging calls.  MU looks like they think they're better than they are.
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Post by: avid1010 on December 06, 2011, 10:47:28 PM
Why does jc play?   ?-(

I think within this year Wilson will be a better pg

Not a chance...do love the Mayo, Vander, DJO backcourt...
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Post by: Big Papi on December 06, 2011, 10:55:15 PM
Otule was on the bench and walking after the game with a limp but still walking so hopefully not a tear and just out for a few weeks.  We need the big fella.
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Post by: JD on December 06, 2011, 10:57:37 PM
Not a chance? Why not?

Wilson is light years ahead of jc in the defense department.  Throw in a few assist and he's right there by jc.  Let's not forget junior is averaging 7 points a game against (not that good of teams)

My thought anyway
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Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 06, 2011, 10:59:27 PM
Otule was on the bench and walking after the game with a limp but still walking so hopefully not a tear and just out for a few weeks.  We need the big fella.

Yeah, I don't think he would have been on the court, or even in the building, if the docs thought it was a tear.
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Post by: DCWarriors04 on December 06, 2011, 11:00:02 PM
Otule was on the bench and walking after the game with a limp but still walking so hopefully not a tear and just out for a few weeks.  We need the big fella.

just a sprained knee
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Post by: ATL MU Warrior on December 06, 2011, 11:00:49 PM
Not a chance? Why not?

Wilson is light years ahead of jc in the defense department.  Throw in a few assist and he's right there by jc.  Let's not forget junior is averaging 7 points a game against (not that good of teams)

My thought anyway
The offense runs far more smoothly with Jr. than with any of the other guards playing point.
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Post by: TallTitan34 on December 06, 2011, 11:03:30 PM
Buzz will be on with Homer and Mac shortly.  Perhaps he will have better info.
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Post by: g0lden3agle on December 06, 2011, 11:03:39 PM
The offense runs far more smoothly with Jr. than with any of the other guards playing point.

I totally agree.  Junior is a field marshal out there.  He is great at setting the pace of the game to something we want to play.  He manages the game better than any other guard we have.
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Post by: VegasWarrior77 on December 06, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
Buzz will be on with Homer and Mac shortly.  Perhaps he will have better info.

What Milwaukee station carries MU these days?
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Post by: ATLmarquettefan on December 06, 2011, 11:05:50 PM
don't think junior played well tonight...but he is indeed this team's best pg options. creates a lot of chances for other guys, has gotten immensely better at getting into the paint and then dishing. his D may not be as good as wilson's or mayo's, but light years ahead of where he was last year.
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Post by: JD on December 06, 2011, 11:06:07 PM
Ok so the offense running more smoothly is understandable, however offense never has been a concern, so what about the defense liability?!
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Post by: turk17 on December 06, 2011, 11:07:24 PM
What Milwaukee station carries MU these days?

540 ESPN
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Post by: VegasWarrior77 on December 06, 2011, 11:08:28 PM
Thanks I've got Buzz on now.
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Post by: avid1010 on December 06, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
Not a chance? Why not?

Wilson is light years ahead of jc in the defense department.  Throw in a few assist and he's right there by jc.  Let's not forget junior is averaging 7 points a game against (not that good of teams)

My thought anyway

because wilson is what he is...he can come in and bother the other team's point guard and not turn the ball over too often.  the offense can't run through him, he doesn't make decisions for the offense, he can't score, he doesn't create for others, he doesn't attack the rim, he doesn't hit the open shot, he hasn't proven he can make free throws, etc.  

if you're just looking for a player to play defense and not turn the ball over we have a number of guards that can do that, and also offer us a better offensive option.  i hope he can develop his offensive skills, but my thought on him all along is that he'll be a solid 4 year back-up.  
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Post by: JD on December 06, 2011, 11:13:11 PM
We agree to disagree then, 4 year backup? 
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Post by: RyanConroy on December 06, 2011, 11:16:01 PM
Based on Derrick Wilson interviews alone I think he'll have a great career here. He's very smart, and I think he'll make a great field general out there.
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Post by: ATL MU Warrior on December 06, 2011, 11:18:59 PM
Based on Derrick Wilson interviews alone I think he'll have a great career here. He's very smart, and I think he'll make a great field general out there.
He's going to be a good player I think...not the full package as a freshman but not many are.
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Post by: NersEllenson on December 06, 2011, 11:24:02 PM
I can see Derrick challenging Junior for PT all season long.  There is hands down no question D Wilson is a much better defender.  Junior the better PG in transition, though I don't feel Junior is much better in the half court setting than is Derrick Wilson...
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Post by: MUMac on December 06, 2011, 11:25:57 PM
Both Junior and Derrick offer some things the other does not.  A good compliment to each other.  In some games, I can see Wilson playing more.  In most, though, I suspect Cadougan will play more. 
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Post by: ATL MU Warrior on December 06, 2011, 11:26:25 PM
I can see Derrick challenging Junior for PT all season long.  There is hands down no question D Wilson is a much better defender.  Junior the better PG in transition, though I don't feel Junior is much better in the half court setting than is Derrick Wilson...
I think Junior is going to (maybe already has) lose minutes to Mayo.  That three guard line up of DJO, Blue and Mayo is pretty tough.  
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Post by: NersEllenson on December 06, 2011, 11:50:25 PM
I think Junior is going to (maybe already has) lose minutes to Mayo.  That three guard line up of DJO, Blue and Mayo is pretty tough.  

Agree...and it was baffling to me as to why we didn't run with the above lineup the last 3.5 minutes of the game.  Buzz had JC in and Mayo on the bench until the very last defensive possession.  Just found it hard to believe Mayo was on the bench practically the last 4 minutes of the game.  Perhaps loyalty on Buzz's part and trusting the upperclassman..?