They both have an equal number of players on their roster from the State of Wisconsin (3). (MU: Blue, Wilson, Thomas; UW: Gasser, Anderson, Wise)
A greater percentage of Marquette's roster is from Wisconsin than UW's.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 30, 2011, 12:44:58 PM
They both have an equal number of players on their roster from the State of Wisconsin (3). (MU: Blue, Wilson, Thomas; UW: Gasser, Anderson, Wise)
A greater percentage of Marquette's roster is from Wisconsin than UW's.
Wow. Really speaks to CD's point about the dearth of high D1 talent in Wisconsin.
Exactly. And there isn't much talent elsewhere that either program wished they had at this point.
UW has 4 players from Minnesota and, let's face it, Minnesota is basically Wisconsin but with more lakes, a giant mall and bad sports teams.
I'd like to start the complaint that Bo is dominating Buzz at recruiting Minnesota!
Wise? That's the craziest part, even counting their 4 walk-ons, they still only have 3 from WI. At least Thomas is officially on scholarship for us this year.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 30, 2011, 12:53:54 PM
Exactly. And there isn't much talent elsewhere that either program wished they had at this point.
Really? We have kids on our roster from Virginia, Texas, Ontario/Texas, North Carolina, Georgia/Texas, Georgia/Florida, West Virginia/Massachusetts, Alaska/Connecticut, and California. Next year we have players coming in from Virginia, Texas, Texas, and Illinois. I think Buzz will always take a high major player from WI as it makes his job easier, but he's combing the country for talent, not relying on WI/upper midwest recruits.
And I think Buzz would gladly take a Jeremy Lamb, Rodney Hood, Tarik Black, God'sgift Achiuwa, D'Angelo Harrison, etc. all of whom are from "elsewhere" and we just missed out on (or "cooled on" in Lamb's case).
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 30, 2011, 01:00:38 PM
UW has 4 players from Minnesota and, let's face it, Minnesota is basically Wisconsin but with more lakes, a giant mall and bad sports teams.
I'd like to start the complaint that Bo is dominating Buzz at recruiting Minnesota!
Actually, Wisconsin has more lakes - Minnesota just has a better marketing agent.
Quote from: Jamailman on November 30, 2011, 01:24:17 PM
Really? We have kids on our roster from Virginia, Texas, Ontario/Texas, North Carolina, Georgia/Texas, Georgia/Florida, West Virginia/Massachusetts, Alaska/Connecticut, and California. Next year we have players coming in from Virginia, Texas, Texas, and Illinois. I think Buzz will always take a high major player from WI as it makes his job easier, but he's combing the country for talent, not relying on WI/upper midwest recruits.
And I think Buzz would gladly take a Jeremy Lamb, Rodney Hood, Tarik Black, God'sgift Achiuwa, D'Angelo Harrison, etc. all of whom are from "elsewhere" and we just missed out on (or "cooled on" in Lamb's case).
I think he meant "elsewhere" as in "players from Wisconsin who went elsewhere to play college ball."
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 30, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
I think he meant "elsewhere" as in "players from Wisconsin who went elsewhere to play college ball."
Could be. Didn't read that way at first but you're probably right.
Quote from: Slim on November 30, 2011, 01:30:49 PM
Actually, Wisconsin has more lakes - Minnesota just has a better marketing agent.
Incorrect. MN has 15,291 lakes and WI has 15,074 lakes. But your point is still valid, I suppose.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 30, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
I think he meant "elsewhere" as in "players from Wisconsin who went elsewhere to play college ball."
Yep. That's the only way to read it. Since there are only 3 on each roster, it demonstrates that there are players "elsewhere" that we both wanted to come into our state. Both teams would forfeit with only 3 players on the floor. Thus, the elsewhere could only be viewed as players in state that went elsewhere.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 30, 2011, 02:12:15 PM
Incorrect. MN has 15,291 lakes and WI has 15,074 lakes. But your point is still valid, I suppose.
Holy crap... I thought the "10,000 Lakes" moniker was a general approximation (e.g., 9,500 actual lakes). But there are over 15,000 lakes?
That's a lotta wata!
Not valid, MN requires 10 acres to be considered a lake...Wisconsin hasn't even named 40% of their supposed 15k lakes. If WI used MN guidelines for lakes they would only have around 6k vs around 11K for MN. Thus the "land of 10k lakes" and not the "land of 15k lakes". I've had this discussion several times.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 30, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Not valid, MN requires 10 acres to be considered a lake...Wisconsin hasn't even named 40% of their supposed 15k lakes. If WI used MN guidelines for lakes they would only have around 6k vs around 11K for MN. Thus the "land of 10k lakes" and not the "land of 15k lakes". I've had this discussion several times.
Interesting. Not to go off topic, but I had always heard the first part, that Wisconsin did not name half their lakes. The 2nd part, about the acres, is new to me. The argument given to me in the past was Wisconsin had more lakes because Minnesota named lakes that Wisconsin did not consider lakes. I guess they may have had half the argument right.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 30, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
I think he meant "elsewhere" as in "players from Wisconsin who went elsewhere to play college ball."
Yes that is what I meant...thanks for clearing that up.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 30, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Not valid, MN requires 10 acres to be considered a lake...Wisconsin hasn't even named 40% of their supposed 15k lakes. If WI used MN guidelines for lakes they would only have around 6k vs around 11K for MN. Thus the "land of 10k lakes" and not the "land of 15k lakes". I've had this discussion several times.
Furthermore, the surface area of Minnesota's largest eight (8) lakes is greater than all 15,074 lakes in Wisconsin combined.
Quote from: MUMac on November 30, 2011, 02:28:59 PM
Interesting. Not to go off topic, but I had always heard the first part, that Wisconsin did not name half their lakes. The 2nd part, about the acres, is new to me. The argument given to me in the past was Wisconsin had more lakes because Minnesota named lakes that Wisconsin did not consider lakes. I guess they may have had half the argument right.
9,037 of these lakes are unnamed and average only four acres in size, leaving only 6044 that are named. According to WI DNR, "Of the 15,074 documented lakes in Wisconsin, only about 40 percent have actually been named. The majority of the unnamed lakes are very small, less than 10 acres".
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on November 30, 2011, 02:33:52 PM
Furthermore, the surface area of Minnesota's largest eight (8) lakes is greater than all 15,074 lakes in Wisconsin combined.
Are you sure about that? Lake Winnebago is larger than any lake in Minnesota isn't it?
Ah...I see the problem here. Upper and Lower Red Lake combined are greater than Winnebago. But seperate they are each smaller.
Are you counting Rainy Lake you Canada touchers?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 30, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
Yes that is what I meant...thanks for clearing that up.
Sorry man, total misread on my part
As Lake Michigan is the only Great Lake to fall totally within US borders, and as at least 50% is within the state of WI boundary, it seems to me that we have more lakeage than MN.
never thought I'd learn so much about MN & WI geography here - neato!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 30, 2011, 02:48:31 PM
Ah...I see the problem here. Upper and Lower Red Lake combined are greater than Winnebago. But separate they are each smaller.
Winnebago is about 133,000 acres and Mille Lacs is almost the same size and 2nd biggest in the state.
Quote from: buckchuckler on November 30, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
Are you counting Rainy Lake you Canada touchers?
Lake of the Woods (950,400 acres total with 307,010 acres in Minnesota) and is not counted.
http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/42107/travel_and_leisure/top_5_biggest_lakes_in_minnesota.html
What is worse being a Canada toucher or a UP toucher?
Quote from: ATWizJr on November 30, 2011, 02:58:52 PM
As Lake Michigan is the only Great Lake to fall totally within US borders, and as at least 50% is within the state of WI boundary, it seems to me that we have more lakeage than MN.
Well they go buy lakes that are completely in a state's boundaries. That is why Lake of the Woods is not counted for Minnesota.
Another meaningless fact....Minnesota has 90,000 miles of shoreline, more than California, Florida and Hawaii combined.
It does not count the 11 million acres of wetlands and 2,000+ miles of rivers.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on November 30, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
Another meaningless fact....Minnesota has 90,000 miles of shoreline, more than California, Florida and Hawaii combined.
Yeah, but how many shark attacks do they have?
Quote from: MU B2002 on November 30, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
THanks Mr Clavin.
Now that made me laugh. Well played. Off to get a beer!
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on November 30, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/42107/travel_and_leisure/top_5_biggest_lakes_in_minnesota.html
Another meaningless fact....Minnesota has 90,000 miles of shoreline, more than California, Florida and Hawaii combined.
Hence it's designation as the surfing capital of the U.S.
Michigan actually has the longest freshwater coastline and second largest coastline (after Alaska) of any state in the US.
Quote from: MU B2002 on November 30, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
THanks Mr Clavin.
Don't know who that is but you are welcome.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on November 30, 2011, 05:51:16 PM
Don't know who that is but you are welcome.
Cliff Clavin, from Cheers.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on November 30, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
Another meaningless fact....Minnesota has 90,000 miles of shoreline, more than California, Florida and Hawaii combined.
"We consider ourselves bicoastal...if you consider the Mississippi River one of the coasts."
Who here has ever pissed in Lake Michigan?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 30, 2011, 07:29:29 PM
Who here has ever pissed in Lake Michigan?
Anyone who uses a toilet in Milwaukee before a big rain.