I know the RSS feed will pick this up, but I wanted to share it as soon as possible.
Quotes from his mother and Aaron inside.
http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/
Despite rumors, Durley remains fully committed to Marquette
Written by: Mark Strotman
Aaron Durley, a 6-foot-11 inch forward from Houston, re-affirmed his committment to Marquette University, six days after unconfirmed reports surfaced that he would not be attending in the fall of 2012. Jim Hicks of RCS Sports reported last Monday that ... Continue reading → (http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/)
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http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/
Despite rumors, Durley remains fully committed to Marquette
Written by: Mark Strotman
Aaron Durley, a 6-foot-11 inch forward from Houston, re-affirmed his commitment to Marquette University, six days after unconfirmed reports surfaced that he would not be attending in the fall of 2012. Jim Hicks of RCS Sports reported last Monday that ... Continue reading → (http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/)
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Does this mean that Durley hasn't been "run off"? Furthermore, will those made giddy by the rumors go back into hibernation until something else negative (real or imagined) is reported about MU?
Amid false report, Durley remains fully committed to Marquette
Written by: Mark Strotman
Aaron Durley, a 6-foot-11 inch forward from Houston, re-affirmed his commitment to Marquette University, six days after unconfirmed reports surfaced that he would not be attending in the fall of 2012. Jim Hicks of RCS Sports reported last Monday that ... Continue reading → (http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/)
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Just as an aside, how did everybody miss this for the last several days? Did the original, erroneous tweet really come out on 11/21? And the scout board missed it, too. Weird.
Amid false report, Durley remains fully committed to Marquette
Written by: Mark Strotman
Aaron Durley, a 6-foot-11 inch forward from Houston, re-affirmed his commitment to Marquette University, six days after unconfirmed reports surfaced that he would not attend in the fall of 2012. Jim Hicks of RCS Sports reported last Monday that Durley ... Continue reading → (http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/)
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Is Durley hurt? The reason I ask is that in reading through Hicks' tweets, he hardly is playing in his high school games...including a DNP and a 37 second game.
Add that as one more thing to be thankful for as an MU fan: a huge center and a caring mom who are supportive of MU!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 27, 2011, 09:14:47 PM
Is Durley hurt? The reason I ask is that in reading through Hicks' tweets, he hardly is playing in his high school games...including a DNP and a 37 second game.
He tore his Achilles last year and his team has another D1 post player.
But he played full-time this summer. So the achilles injury really can't be the issue. And I know there is a high-major center in front of him. But have you ever heard of a high-major prospect only getting a minute or two a game in this situation?
I'd be lying if I said this doesn't concern me...
Sounds like hes not in the early season rotation for some reason.
Does Jim Hicks still self-promote himself as the "#1 info source of Greater Houston Basketball"???
If so, I would like to reiterate my position that said ranking is probably just as reliable as a pre-season coaches poll.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on November 28, 2011, 08:05:52 AM
He tore his Achilles last year and his team has another D1 post player.
There are plenty of high school teams that manage to play two, three, or even four DI prospects in their team. crap, I watch them on a nightly basis here in Jersey even when they come off injury or have two prospects at one position.
If you can play, you will play. No matter the level.
We're now using one persons twitter account to draw conclusions on a player, of which how many of those tweets actually referenced Durley? I understand its a message board, but might we be a bit early in drawing any kind of conclusion?
That is why I asked the question. This hasn't been updated in a couple of weeks, but I do see that he had a DNP earlier this year.
http://marquette.scout.com/3/2011-12RecruitStats.html
Yeah, I saw that page too....that was why my response was what it was....after the DNP there are no stats, is he not playing or just not an updated page.
Certainly a wisp of smoke, but I'm willing to ignore it for now
His high school coach says he's ahead of where Otule was in high school. Since he coached both players he should know. That is a pretty good recommendation. Also think of the path many big men take. Former Buck Swen Nater is an example. http://www.coachswen.com/Swen%20Nater's%20Bio.htm
https://twitter.com/#!/FtBendSports/status/139178127275466752 (https://twitter.com/#!/FtBendSports/status/139178127275466752)
He had 10 on 11/22 in a blow out. Scout must be out of date on his page.
Not to be negative, but I also find it concerning that he cannot crack the rotation of a high school basketball team. If the dude isn't good enough to play a lot of minutes as a senior in HS, how can we expect him to make a difference at MU? Again, just an honest question, and yes, I do realize he is a project.
Ridley might be getting the big chunk of mins to boost his stats for all American candidacy. Just speculation. Not sure if they play on the court together but chances are they don't.
Quote from: noblewarrior on November 28, 2011, 11:50:30 AM
Ridley might be getting the big chunk of mins to boost his stats for all American candidacy. Just speculation. Not sure if they play on the court together but chances are they don't.
And that is why I don't want to jump to conclusions. I doubt Ridley and he can be on the floor at the same time (a la Otule and Gardner).
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 28, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
And that is why I don't want to jump to conclusions. I doubt Ridley and he can be on the floor at the same time (a la Otule and Gardner).
Additionally, too lazy to look but is Ridley committed to a team at this point? Could be showcasing for High major teams
Fans are an interesting lot....for YEARS people here and within the general MU basketball community have lamented our inability to land bigs. Now we land a big like Durley, and people are jumping to conclusions that he's no good because he isn't putting up big numbers on his High School team, etc.
Have Buzz and staff not earned a bit of latitude when it comes to talent evaluation/player development? Otule and Gardner are the best 2 big men at MU since Merritt/Jackson, and prior to that, McIlvaine and Key. Wes Matthews, Lazar, Jimmy Butler, Otule, all made large strides in their games under Buzz and staff.
Sure, we'd all like a 5-star big, but that may never be in the cards. After all the complaining about MU never getting bigs...I just find it rather ironic people are now complaining about the caliber of big project signed...
Quote from: Ners on November 28, 2011, 01:02:46 PM
Fans are an interesting lot....for YEARS people here and within the general MU basketball community have lamented our inability to land bigs. Now we land a big like Durley, and people are jumping to conclusions that he's no good because he isn't putting up big numbers on his High School team, etc.
Actually I didn't jump to conclusions. I read the tweets...came here to ask a couple of questions...and looked up additional information.
In fact I specifically said "I don't want to jump to conclusions."
So, again, if you just expect people to post nothing but Buzz-love here, that's fine. But it would be pretty boring.
Quote from: Ners on November 28, 2011, 01:02:46 PM
Have Buzz and staff not earned a bit of latitude when it comes to talent evaluation/player development? Otule and Gardner are the best 2 big men at MU since Merritt/Jackson, and prior to that, McIlvaine and Key. Wes Matthews, Lazar, Jimmy Butler, Otule, all made large strides in their games under Buzz and staff.
I hope you go home to find Ousmane patrolling the alley between your house and your street.
Quote from: mu03eng on November 28, 2011, 12:55:55 PM
Additionally, too lazy to look but is Ridley committed to a team at this point? Could be showcasing for High major teams
Signed with Texas
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 28, 2011, 03:31:19 PM
Signed with Texas
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1300034
Didn't sign. Maybe he has a change of mind.
Quote from: nyg on November 28, 2011, 03:34:12 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1300034
Didn't sign. Maybe he has a change of mind.
Interesting
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 28, 2011, 02:47:50 PM
Actually I didn't jump to conclusions. I read the tweets...came here to ask a couple of questions...and looked up additional information.
In fact I specifically said "I don't want to jump to conclusions."
So, again, if you just expect people to post nothing but Buzz-love here, that's fine. But it would be pretty boring.
My comment was a general commentary on the Marquette fan perception/obsession with "we need a big," and not aimed at you specifically. I believe the point I made stands on its own merit. As for people only posting Buzz-love here - I really don't care now that the primary antagonist is gone. Buzz's results speak for themselves, and there will always be cynics in every fan base. It's just unfortunate when the cynicism largely is the result of ignorance/ego. It's like the small faction in the Green Bay fan base who STILL cannot give Ted Thompson credit for doing a marvelous job - it's like really?? What more do you want?
Quote from: MUBurrow on November 28, 2011, 02:54:40 PM
I hope you go home to find Ousmane patrolling the alley between your house and your street.
Yeah...you could put Ooze in the conversation as well, and he could be on that list with RJax, Merritt, McIlvaine, Key, Otule, Gardner...though I'm not sure if I'd rank Ooze ahead of any of the aforementioned guys...I'd put he and Otule at about the same level...
The two situations are a little different. Thompson oversaw a Packers team that won a championship. Buzz's team has been impressive, but hasn't won anything of note yet.
But either way, that doesn't make them omnipotent. I mean, Thompson still drafted Justin Harrell. And Buzz signed Brett Roseboro.
And no one said anything harsh...just wondering why he isn't playing much despite being a prospect of a high enough stature to earn a scholarship from a BCS level school.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 28, 2011, 03:48:57 PM
The two situations are a little different. Thompson oversaw a Packers team that won a championship. Buzz's team has been impressive, but hasn't won anything of note yet.
But either way, that doesn't make them omnipotent. I mean, Thompson still drafted Justin Harrell. And Buzz signed Brett Roseboro.
I agree...though I'd say last year's Sweet 16 was a pretty good accomplishment. I'd also say that given what was in the cupboard after the Big 3 were graduating, Buzz and staff did a really good job with the team not taking a big dip after losing 3 of the program's Top 10 scorers of all time. Obviously, many in the college basketball world see that Buzz has done a great job at MU, or they wouldn't have been pursuing him as a hire at OU, Arkansas, A&M...
That said, yes, there will always be some mistakes made in talent evaluation, but nobody bats 100% in that category as you point out above. All I've generally argued for on this board was some perspective, context, and for fans to not knee jerk...but I guess that is largely the fan experience - the ability to knee jerk and armchair quarterback. I just find it offensive at times when it is somewhat misguided. It's like appreciate what you have, because you are only 1 Bob Dukiet or Mike Deane away from being an afterthought. Plus we saw even with MU in the Big East - our first round of coaches sought after Crean left turned MU down: Bennett, Grant, Keno Davis, Sean Miller, etc...
Quote from: Ners on November 28, 2011, 01:02:46 PM
Have Buzz and staff not earned a bit of latitude when it comes to talent evaluation/player development? Otule and Gardner are the best 2 big men at MU since Merritt/Jackson, and prior to that, McIlvaine and Key. Wes Matthews, Lazar, Jimmy Butler, Otule, all made large strides in their games under Buzz and staff.
I think they absolutely have earned some latitude in this area. But I don't think that means there is anything inappropriate in asking questions like: why isn't this kid getting playing time in his HS games? There are some very good answers to that question that we've heard including the fact that he's playing behind a five star center and some injuries that might have held him back a little bit. There's nothing wrong in asking those questions. As good as Otule and Gardner are, Roseboro and Mbao were huge misses. Buzz makes mistakes, and it doesn't make me any less of a fan that I remember that.
That said, I believe that recruiting a kid like Durley presents a situation where a coach can really earn his paycheck. He's under the radar because he's playing behind the No. 3 Center in the class, so he doesn't get noticed as much as he might at another school. Finding diamonds in the rough -- as Buzz has done repeatedly -- is important to the continued success of the program. Buzz's track record makes me optimistic that Durley is a diamond in the rough, but it doesn't erase the fact that he's also missed badly on two "big men."
With Otule and Durley he can prove that MU develops big men.
Quote from: nyg on November 28, 2011, 03:34:12 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1300034
Didn't sign. Maybe he has a change of mind.
Anyone for a package deal?
Quote from: mr.MUskie on November 28, 2011, 06:44:21 PM
Anyone for a package deal?
No. There are no available scholarships.