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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: muhs03 on November 11, 2011, 09:51:57 PM
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...Im curious what you think of OOC basketball schedules? A) no one attends these games B) there is no tv revenue to generate C) the start of college bball occurs when the NFL is getting interesting and CFB is nearing its end
In summary, as much as the haters want to hate the BCS, at least it keeps the regular season important/interesting (probably a reason so many viewers tune into college football). One loss can be a killer.
Thoughts?
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Moved to the superbar...and...
College football sucks. I'd rather watch - and actually enjoy - OOC basketball.
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Moved to the superbar...and...
College football sucks. I'd rather watch - and actually enjoy - OOC basketball.
Yeah, Kansas beat Towson 100-53. Super exciting. I mean...can you imagine the uphill battle Kansas would have had with that loss....oh wait....this is bball....there is no impact had KU lost.
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Not sure I understand your point. Are you arguing an 11 game schedule versus a 27 game schedule?
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....there is no impact had KU lost.
...there is no impact to me if ANY college football team loses. Get over it.
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...there is no impact to me if ANY college football team loses. Get over it.
+1...million. College football is crap.
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...there is no impact to me if ANY college football team loses. Get over it.
Most of America (TV ratings) disagrees with you.
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Most of America (TV ratings) disagrees with you.
So when you asked "Thoughts?" you meant...America's thoughts?
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Most of America (TV ratings) disagrees with you.
So let met try to summarize your point: Most of America would rather have watched Houston beat Tulane 73-17 in football yesterday, than watch Kansas beat Towson 100-53 in basketball today.
Those people are idiots. Enough said.
Or perhaps it was the exciting Georgia vs. New Mexico state 63-16 score you'd rather pick out from last week as exciting?
No? How about Wisconsin beating Purdue 62-17. Geeze...imagine if UW would have lost that one!
Or wait, maybe you're talking about Texas vs Texas Tech 52-20 nail biter. Really pissed I missed that.
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So when you asked "Thoughts?" you meant...America's thoughts?
No, he meant muhs03's thoughts.
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So let met try to summarize your point: Most of America would rather have watched Houston beat Tulane 73-17 in football yesterday, than watch Kansas beat Towson 100-53 in basketball today.
Those people are idiots. Enough said.
Or perhaps it was the exciting Georgia vs. New Mexico state 63-16 score you'd rather pick out from last week as exciting?
No? How about Wisconsin beating Purdue 62-17. Geeze...imagine if UW would have lost that one!
Or wait, maybe you're talking about Texas vs Texas Tech 52-20 nail biter. Really pissed I missed that.
Why are you bringing up conference games. He meant non conference games. Like when Purdue beat SE Missouri State 59-0. I guess UW will schedule SE Missouri State next year.
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So let met try to summarize your point: Most of America would rather have watched Houston beat Tulane 73-17 in football yesterday, than watch Kansas beat Towson 100-53 in basketball today.
Those people are idiots. Enough said.
Or perhaps it was the exciting Georgia vs. New Mexico state 63-16 score you'd rather pick out from last week as exciting?
No? How about Wisconsin beating Purdue 62-17. Geeze...imagine if UW would have lost that one!
Or wait, maybe you're talking about Texas vs Texas Tech 52-20 nail biter. Really pissed I missed that.
Yup. Way to cherry-pick irrelevant games. Can I cherry-pick irrelevant games from tonight? Ok...how about ALL 131 D1 games!!! None mean a single thing. Oh...and all 53 D1 games tomorrow wont mean anything either.
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Yup. Way to cherry-pick irrelevant games.
But I thought your point was that with the BCS *every* game is relevant?
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But I thought your point was that with the BCS *every* game is relevant?
Are they not? Do those games not still sell-out?
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But I thought your point was that with the BCS *every* game is relevant?
You mean this comment? "In summary, as much as the haters want to hate the BCS, at least it keeps the regular season important/interesting (probably a reason so many viewers tune into college football). One loss can be a killer."
Who was cherry picking? muhs03 or you? You could have easily gone to the number of BCS games against FCS teams. But, that would be cherry picking.
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Are they not? Do those games not still sell-out?
Let's compare the NFL to MLB. Why would one sell out virtually every game and the other not? Come on Einstein, as I asked originally, are you comparing the 11 game schedule to the 27 game schedule?
What exactly is your point?
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You mean this comment? "In summary, as much as the haters want to hate the BCS, at least it keeps the regular season important/interesting (probably a reason so many viewers tune into college football). One loss can be a killer."
Who was cherry picking? muhs03 or you? You could have easily gone to the number of BCS games against FCS teams. But, that would be cherry picking.
OMG! LSU played SUCH a terrible schedule. Same with Alabama. NO ONE watched it. College football gets TERRIBLE ratings. Those one or two "cupcakes" only produces 5-8K fans and arent aired on national TV. Suuuuuure.
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Let's compare the NFL to MLB. Why would one sell out virtually every game and the other not? Come on Einstein, as I asked originally, are you comparing the 11 game schedule to the 27 game schedule?
What exactly is your point?
Exactly my point. Its a watered down schedule that most people dont care about.
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Exactly my point. Its a watered down schedule that most people dont care about.
No. It's a watered down schedule that YOU do not care about. I know trying to get rid of the Wofford/UW ticket last year was a scalpers dream! So, 30% of a college FB schedule is garbage. That correlates to one college basketball game? Really, that was your point? What a waste of a thread. ::)
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Are they not? Do those games not still sell-out?
A sellout does not equal a relevant game. A sellout equals a popular team playing at home. Likely sold out because of season ticket holders. Did Tulane sell-out? Did you even watch since they're not BCS?
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No. It's a watered down schedule that YOU do not care about. I know trying to get rid of the Wofford/UW ticket last year was a scalpers dream! So, 30% of a college FB schedule is garbage. That correlates to one college basketball game? Really, that was your point? What a waste of a thread. ::)
Nope. Again, TV ratings and attendance suggest otherwise. Clearly, Im not the only one.
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Nope. Again, TV ratings and attendance suggest otherwise. Clearly, Im not the only one.
Yeah, how much TV viewership was that Woford/UW game again? Oh yeah, it wasn't even televised by the Big 10 Network.
Again, what was your point? I suggest you try not posting after a night of drinking.
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Yeah, how much TV viewership was that Woford/UW game again? Oh yeah, it wasn't even televised by the Big 10 Network.
Again, what was your point? I suggest you try not posting after a night of drinking.
What were the ratings for LSU/Bama? Im guessing that rating will be higher than any regular season ball game. You are arguing that people dont care about certain OOC fball games. Thats just laughable. There is no comparison to be made. For every one BCS OOC game that you think no one cares about, there are about 50 OOC bball games that no one cares about.
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I suggest you try not posting after a night of drinking.
I don't care what his state of mind is, coming to a hoops only board and trying to convince people that hoops sucks and football rulz is asinine. It's like pouring concrete into a black hole to fill it up.
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I don't care what his state of mind is, coming to a hoops only board and trying to convince people that hoops sucks and football rulz is asinine. It's like pouring concrete into a black hole to fill it up.
Is it like Wild watching someone pull the pants down of a 12 year old and suggesting its ok? ?-(
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Is it like Wild watching someone pull the pants down of a 12 year old and suggesting its ok? ?-(
You should probably change your username. You're an embarrassment to anybody who has ever been associated with Marquette High. And I didn't even graduate from there.
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Is it like Wild watching someone pull the pants down of a 12 year old and suggesting its ok? ?-(
Wow, you really are a unnatural carnal knowledgeing douche....get a life.
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Hey....but how about that Joe Paterno guy? Wild was warned that a 60 year old was traveling with a 12 year old and didnt do anything about it. Oh well.... :-\
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even though Muhs is trying to change the point of his own thread, and being an insufferable douche. If we're going to argue attendance, last night was Marquette's highest opening night student section attendance in 9 years. Upper bowl was about as full as you could expect.
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I've watched one college game all year, LSU/Bama. I'm only GOING to watch one football game all year. What the rest of the country watches is really no concern of mine. I don't listen to country music, watch NASCAR, American Idol, Survivor, Dancing with the Stars, eat bb-q, or tweet either. Apparently lots of people do. Could not care less. If I cared, I would have gone to either Michigan or Notre Dame, both of which accepted me.
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College football sucks. I'd rather watch - and actually enjoy - OOC basketball.
This is the correct answer. College football blows. I'd rather watch Marquette play MSM last night than watch Notre Dame play whoever-the-hell Notre Dame is playing this afternoon.
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This is the correct answer. College football blows. I'd rather watch Marquette play MSM last night than watch Notre Dame play whoever-the-hell Notre Dame is playing this afternoon.
The worst part is watching stupid college offenses making their way into NFL football. Case in point, that stupid read option crap that Tebow and Denver were running. Wow was that bad.
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Even as a big college football fan, I never understood the logic that it's SO much better because EVERY game matters! If a team loses their second game of the season then their national championship aspirations are all but gone...but they still have to play 10 more games. Honestly, how important are those games going to be and how is the sport that much better if you're playing out the string for over 80% of the season?
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Even as a big college football fan, I never understood the logic that it's SO much better because EVERY game matters! If a team loses their second game of the season then their national championship aspirations are all but gone...but they still have to play 10 more games. Honestly, how important are those games going to be and how is the sport that much better if you're playing out the string for over 80% of the season?
My friend who is a Va Tech fan gets depressed almost every year by the 3rd game. Top 10 ranking and then the obligatory bed crapting occurs... Then no shot at the NC.
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The worst part is watching stupid college offenses making their way into NFL football. Case in point, that stupid read option crap that Tebow and Denver were running. Wow was that bad.
The Packers run stuff based on college offenses. Some of the west coast offense principles started in college too.
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The worst part is watching stupid college offenses making their way into NFL football. Case in point, that stupid read option crap that Tebow and Denver were running. Wow was that bad.
I'd rather Win in (incredibly) ugly fashion...than lose.
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WFor every one BCS OOC game that you think no one cares about, there are about 50 OOC bball games that no one cares about.
And? Whats your point?
There are roughly 3 times as many bball teams, that play roughly 3 times as many games, so maybe you're close there, but again, who cares? What's your point?
The big difference of course is that college football's post-season consists of a couple dozen meaningless exhibition games, and one game that actually counts. While the basketball post-season has literally dozens of games that have meaning.
You could extend that to the regular season, as even for the past couple weeks there is a total of about 5-6 teams that actually have a chance to play in that one game that means anything. Stanford for instance, could win or lose their remaining games, and the post-season exhibition game they play will be equally irrelevant.
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What were the ratings for LSU/Bama? Im guessing that rating will be higher than any regular season ball game. You are arguing that people dont care about certain OOC fball games. Thats just laughable. There is no comparison to be made. For every one BCS OOC game that you think no one cares about, there are about 50 OOC bball games that no one cares about.
That is because there are 340 D1 hoops teams and 110 ish D1 football teams. Illinois-Western Michigan matters exactly as much if it is OOC hoops or OOC basketball. I had far more interest in MU-MSM or MSU-UNC or Vandy-Cleveland St than I had in the LSU-Bama game. To put it more succinctly, I would have more interest in the LSU-Bama BASKETBALL game than I had in their football game. And no amount of 7th grade insults will change that.
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That is because there are 340 D1 hoops teams and 110 ish D1 football teams. Illinois-Western Michigan matters exactly as much if it is OOC hoops or OOC basketball. I had far more interest in MU-MSM or MSU-UNC or Vandy-Cleveland St than I had in the LSU-Bama game. To put it more succinctly, I would have more interest in the LSU-Bama BASKETBALL game than I had in their football game. And no amount of 7th grade insults will change that.
100% agree. I'd rather watch a basketball game than 2+ hours of commercials with football breaks in between.
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The Packers run stuff based on college offenses. Some of the west coast offense principles started in college too.
I suppose, but Denver went the equivalent of a whole game (!!!) without ATTEMPTING one pass. That's insane. I guess I should have revised my comment to High School offense, then again, when I played HS we threw it more than 5 times a game.
I'd rather Win in (incredibly) ugly fashion...than lose.
I suppose. But if I'm a Denver fan, that game probably feels like a loss. Seriously, that offense is all sorts of terrible.
And I guess I should also point out that I'm eating quite a bit of crow regarding Cam Newton. Never thought a QB with one year of 1-read spread offense would get him ready to do anything well at an NFL level.
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I suppose, but Denver went the equivalent of a whole game (!!!) without ATTEMPTING one pass. That's insane. I guess I should have revised my comment to High School offense, then again, when I played HS we threw it more than 5 times a game.
I suppose. But if I'm a Denver fan, that game probably feels like a loss. Seriously, that offense is all sorts of terrible.
If you were a Denver fan, you'd take a W any way you can get one.
What I'd like to see is Tebow on the Packers for a game. About 95% of the time Rodgers is throwing at a wide-open receiver. How many of those passes would TT complete? 40%? 50%? Would he just tuck it and go instead of waiting for Jennings to beat the safety?
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I've watched one college game all year, LSU/Bama. I'm only GOING to watch one football game all year. What the rest of the country watches is really no concern of mine. I don't listen to country music, watch NASCAR, American Idol, Survivor, Dancing with the Stars, eat bb-q, or tweet either. Apparently lots of people do. Could not care less. If I cared, I would have gone to either Michigan or Notre Dame, both of which accepted me.
Agree with pretty much everything except the hatin' on BBQ.
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...Im curious what you think of OOC basketball schedules? A) no one attends these games B) there is no tv revenue to generate C) the start of college bball occurs when the NFL is getting interesting and CFB is nearing its end
In summary, as much as the haters want to hate the BCS, at least it keeps the regular season important/interesting (probably a reason so many viewers tune into college football). One loss can be a killer.
Thoughts?
As a counter argument, how can college football stay interesting and relevant to 90% of the fanbase when only 4 weeks in, less than 10 teams have any real possibility to win the national championship. Currently, less than 6 have a real chance and most of those are based on pure luck (OU, OSU, LSU, AL, OR).
How does that increase interest for the other 115 schools who schools are done? For all intents and purposes, their season is over, and the best they get is a glorified B CS OOC game in January. Note that also their fans will not have the ability to feel the excitement of even a Sweet Sixteen run, when everything is still possible.
The idea that college football's system is superior because "every week is a playoff" ignores the reality that every-week more teams and fans are eliminated from relevancy, and thus interest. CFB does an astounding job of making the season about a group of 4-8 teams.
Give me the 64 team tournament any day, every day over that depressing crap. How many fans love to hear about and watch a group of less than 5 teams be hyped for 4 6 months? Hell it wasn't even until this weekend that anyone even said anything about Stanford.