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Title: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: nyg on November 10, 2011, 03:16:00 PM
Since only one day to go till MU tipoff, figured this a good time to ask the question.  One more day of Joe Pa talk.

Who will be the candidates for the job and would they even take it.  Following a legend is one thing, taking on a program with the current issues is another.  I would presume recruiting will be difficult.

Urban Meyer.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on November 10, 2011, 03:24:25 PM
Buzz!

I actually think Meyer will go to Ohio State. I also think that many highly successful coaches have egos big enough to think that the scandals at PSU will not affect their recruiting and that they'll be national title contenders from Day 1. That said, I'm not sure a program has faced a scandal quite like this one so I could be way off.

Wild care candidate: Bill Cowher
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Blackhat on November 10, 2011, 03:24:50 PM
PSU has begun talks.

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Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 10, 2011, 03:38:33 PM
Crean would be their guy. Squeaky clean academics, a recruiting genius, and has a wife with kids.
Jack could lend a hand with the backfield and the bros-in-law will deal with the X's and O's. Yep, Tommy's their dude.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Ari Gold on November 10, 2011, 03:42:53 PM
hard to imagine any big name coach would want to follow Joe Pa. Safe bet is Tom Bradley is retained
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: foreverwarriors on November 10, 2011, 03:44:46 PM
Kirk Ferentz will be in the mix
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on November 10, 2011, 03:55:36 PM
Kirk Ferentz will be in the mix

Would Iowa let him go elsewhere in conference?
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: mu03eng on November 10, 2011, 04:00:11 PM
Al Golden would be a prime candidate.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: GGGG on November 10, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
hard to imagine any big name coach would want to follow Joe Pa. Safe bet is Tom Bradley is retained

Actually, that is not a safe bet.  They should clean house. 

Pat Fitzgerald is my guess.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: MUMac on November 10, 2011, 06:09:27 PM
Actually, that is not a safe bet.  They should clean house. 

Pat Fitzgerald is my guess.

I agree, they will need to clean house.  Not sure who would want it right now.  Replacing a legend who left in disgrace and also a school with a tarnished image right now.  That will be a tough sell for awhile.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: cheebs09 on November 10, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
Actually, that is not a safe bet.  They should clean house. 

Pat Fitzgerald is my guess.

Although if Penn State did what they they should do, then they would never be in this mess. The fact that McQueary is still coaching makes me think that we can't trust Penn State to do what they should do.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 10, 2011, 07:32:22 PM
Actually, that is not a safe bet.  They should clean house. 

Pat Fitzgerald is my guess.

I almost can't believe I'm saying this, but I don't think Penn State is an upgrade for Fitzgerald. Things have changed.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 10, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
Sultan is right on the money. Pat Fitzgerald will be the next PSU coach.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 10, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
Sultan is right on the money. Pat Fitzgerald will be the next PSU coach.


Nah, don't think so.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 10, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
Fitzgerald is on record as saying the only job he'd leave NW for is PSU. Fitzgerald is still pissed at the Northwestern board for the rejected land propsoal for the football team on the lakefront. PSU has to go outside the program and get someone squeaky clean.

Do the math, and Fitz is your next PSU coach.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on November 10, 2011, 08:07:08 PM
Is Penn State even a desirable job after this? This scandal destroys the University's reputation. No thanks.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: GGGG on November 10, 2011, 08:25:21 PM
That's the best time to be the next coach.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on November 10, 2011, 08:57:58 PM
Yes, nothing cements excellence like working for a University that ignored child rape.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: GGGG on November 10, 2011, 09:22:13 PM
Hey, it worked beautifully for Scott Drew at Baylor.  Coming in when everything is at its lowest point has its advantages.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 10, 2011, 09:40:20 PM
Hey, it worked beautifully for Scott Drew at Baylor.  Coming in when everything is at its lowest point has its advantages.

I tend to agree. Dukiet and Deane were certainly easier to follow than Al. On the other hand, this is 100x worse than the scandal at IU and the last three years have been post apocolyptic there. Penn State may be Minnesota or Indiana football for a while.

Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: MUMac on November 10, 2011, 09:47:17 PM
Hey, it worked beautifully for Scott Drew at Baylor.  Coming in when everything is at its lowest point has its advantages.

Baylor was never PSU in terms of reputation and expectations.  Not sure the house was cleaned at Baylor as it has been at PSU. 

When will they hire the coach?  After they hire the President and then the AD before moving onto the coach?  Likely will miss one, possibly two recruiting classes.  Add to that, the stench this has to parents of the young boys they will be recruiting.  Add to it, the split feelings among the alums and fans right now.  This has disaster written all over it.  I doubt the interest will be very high.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Blackhat on November 10, 2011, 09:58:59 PM
You've got three generations of Joe Pa loyalists, former players, etc. in and around that place.  Think about that.  There is some truth to it being a cult there, just imagine if McGuire coached at a 4 x bigger marquette for 60 years.

 You better be on your game, they won't have an loyalty to you unlike if PSU had one of their own in there like a Tom Bradley.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: GGGG on November 11, 2011, 08:06:07 AM
College coaches are confident in their abilities.  Penn State has a ton of resources, including sitting in one of the top parts of the country for recruits.  And if they win there, they will be a legend.

Believe me, they aren'g going to get a top-tier coach there, but I wouldn't doubt that a young, up-and-coming coach snaps that job up.  (Similar to what Drew was when he went to Baylor.)  That's why I think someone like Fitzgerald (with his enthusiasm and charisma) would be an excellent choice.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on November 11, 2011, 09:35:08 AM
I think the younger the candidate the less likely they are to be interested. Everything Penn State accomplished is now phony.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 11, 2011, 09:55:19 AM
Fitzgerald is on record as saying the only job he'd leave NW for is PSU. Fitzgerald is still pissed at the Northwestern board for the rejected land propsoal for the football team on the lakefront. PSU has to go outside the program and get someone squeaky clean.

Do the math, and Fitz is your next PSU coach.

The Penn State that Fitzgerald aspired to no longer exists. You could argue that it never did. Prior statements about the wonderful tradition Pat would be joining are meaningless.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: JWags85 on November 11, 2011, 10:18:14 AM
The Penn State that Fitzgerald aspired to no longer exists. You could argue that it never did. Prior statements about the wonderful tradition Pat would be joining are meaningless.

Not to mention when Fitzgerald made comments, he was making 750K, his recent extension bumped him up to $1.8mm per for the next 10 years.  I really don't see him leaving.  The university has invested alot in him and he's got that program coming back to a good place.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: john31 on November 11, 2011, 10:26:13 AM
Fitzgerald turned down Michigan and ND, I don't think he goes near PSU. I don't think any top tier coach takes the PSU job. Some young second tier guys takes it as a stepping stone to something better.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 11, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
Fitzgerald does more with less than any other coach in a BCS conference. He's not leaving NU for that cesspool. Recruiting to Penn State will be next to impossible. How many here would send their son there to play football now? Besides, do you really care to shower in the PSU locker room now?
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on November 11, 2011, 10:30:24 AM
Fitzgerald does more with less than any other coach in a BCS conference. He's not leaving NU for that cesspool.

The inverse of ND football. I love it.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: foreverwarriors on November 11, 2011, 11:37:31 AM
Per Darren Rovell:

@darrenrovell Bodog odds for next coach of Penn St.: Urban Meyer 2/1, Al Golden 9/2, Mike London 5/1, Kevin Sumlin 11/2, Pat Fitzgerald 6/1
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: MUMac on November 11, 2011, 01:58:08 PM
Per Darren Rovell:

@darrenrovell Bodog odds for next coach of Penn St.: Urban Meyer 2/1, Al Golden 9/2, Mike London 5/1, Kevin Sumlin 11/2, Pat Fitzgerald 6/1

Meyer left a nice gig in Florida due to health.  I can't see him even sniffing at this job.  Golden could be a candidate.  Because of his prior ties to PSU and the cesspool he found out existed, after he started coaching there, at Miami are the reasons.
Title: Re: New Pa. State Coach?
Post by: Blackhat on November 11, 2011, 04:17:29 PM
Looks like Mike London already said negatory to PSU.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33241073 (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33241073)