In the first coaches poll, looks like we are #21
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/usatpoll.htm?AID=4992781&PID=4166869&SID=xutbm3up6tqd (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/usatpoll.htm?AID=4992781&PID=4166869&SID=xutbm3up6tqd)
How do they pick the coaches?
For anyone counting: 2 ACC, 6 BEAST
For kicks: 4 ACC teams attaining votes, 10 BEAST attaining votes. I hate the ACC.
Not that pre-season polls mean much of anything, but for the non-con
#7 Vandy at home
#14 Wisconsin on the road
#30 Washington neutral
Then in conference
#4 UConn
#5 Syracuse
#8 Louisville
#11 Pitt
#22 Cincinnati (twice)
#34 Nova (twice)
#37 WVU
#40 St. John's
#49 ND
That's 14 top 40 games from the coaches' poll. We also play Georgetown twice, and I could see them being a top 50 computer team. Another tough schedule - should help us on Selection Sunday again
That Vandy game could be ginormous if we both come in unbeaten. Tough task, as we have Bucky and they have Louisville, but that could easily be a top ten matchup. And with games like UNC/UK and Duke/Ohio St playing, it's not unthinkable that the winner of that game could enter the new year in the top 5.
Personally, I find what's on the "Tournament Results" line next to #5 and #15 more meaningful than the poll itself.
Quote from: Benny B on October 20, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
Personally, I find what's on the "Tournament Results" line next to #5 and #15 more meaningful than the poll itself.
What tournament results line? I went back to look, but couldn't find anything.
Wow, we have 14 times to prove ourselves as a contender against ranked teams. Great schedule.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 20, 2011, 12:35:37 PM
What tournament results line? I went back to look, but couldn't find anything.
Hint: #5 is Cuse, #15 is Xavier.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 20, 2011, 12:53:27 PM
Hint: #5 is Cuse, #15 is Xavier.
That's not a hint, you completely gave it away!
preseason coach's poll is by far the most useless poll of the year. in comparison to football, the season is much longer and there is much more shifting. let's not forget last year Michigan State was picked second and they finished with 19-15 record, barely got into the tourney, and got bounced in the first round.
Quote from: Jamailman on October 20, 2011, 11:42:49 AM
Not that pre-season polls mean much of anything, but for the non-con
#7 Vandy at home
#14 Wisconsin on the road
#30 Washington neutral
Then in conference
#4 UConn
#5 Syracuse
#8 Louisville
#11 Pitt
#22 Cincinnati (twice)
#34 Nova (twice)
#37 WVU
#40 St. John's
#49 ND
That's 14 top 40 games from the coaches' poll. We also play Georgetown twice, and I could see them being a top 50 computer team. Another tough schedule - should help us on Selection Sunday again
MU could meet #43 Virginia in the title game of the Paradise Jam.
Quote from: ATLmarquettefan on October 20, 2011, 01:42:13 PM
preseason coach's poll is by far the most useless poll of the year. in comparison to football, the season is much longer and there is much more shifting. let's not forget last year Michigan State was picked second and they finished with 19-15 record, barely got into the tourney, and got bounced in the first round.
+1
All these "experts" are sub-standard....replugging my CS article from season's end...
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2011/04/rating-raters.html
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 20, 2011, 12:35:37 PM
What tournament results line? I went back to look, but couldn't find anything.
My bad... I was looking at the "Complete Poll" link (that lists last game(s) results and upcoming matchups) on ESPN.com.
But Rocky nailed it.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 20, 2011, 02:17:51 PM
+1
All these "experts" are sub-standard....replugging my CS article from season's end...
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2011/04/rating-raters.html
Add: I can't remember if it was Lunardi, Katz, Bilas, or Forde, but one of them said a couple years ago that most Coaches Poll ballots are not actually filled out by the coach. They are typically filled out by an assistant and in some cases by one of the graduate students. Although most will at least look over or approve the ballot before it's submitted, some coaches are completely hands-off.