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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Knight Commission on March 28, 2007, 07:37:51 PM

Title: DeCourcy's Article.......Crean
Post by: Knight Commission on March 28, 2007, 07:37:51 PM
Anyone remember the article DeCourcy wrote prior to MU's hiring of Crean when he was at MSU that basically praised him as the second coming? Mike had a motive in mind when he wrote it--and an agenda. He does now as well. Crean is as good as gone, assuming the Board of Trustees approves it.
Title: Re: DeCourcy's Article.......Crean
Post by: 79Warrior on March 28, 2007, 07:46:36 PM

Really? What is his motive and agenda? another one of your conspiracys?
Title: Re: DeCourcy's Article.......Crean
Post by: Knight Commission on March 28, 2007, 07:55:15 PM
This from a JS article by Lori Nickel in 2002

"Not surprisingly, some of his close friends are media members - the Sporting News' national college basketball czar Mike DeCourcy and TV analyst Jay Bilas, among them."

I ask, would a close friend feed the rumor mill?

In 1999, DeCourcy reported Crean sold his house in Lansing in three days. How? He's a close friend of Crean.
Title: That's because Crean wants the job
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 08:00:23 PM
Knight....Crean wants the job.  He's lobbying for it, this is no surprise.  It's one of the great jobs out there.

He can get IMMEDIATE access to McDonald's All Americans.  He has no academic restrictions to deal with, if it has a pulse it's accepted, basketball school, Tubby was paid more than $750K more than Crean was.


Absolutely Crean is lobbying for this job.  ZERO QUESTION in my mind.  It's one of those jobs you lobby for.
Title: Re: That's because Crean wants the job
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 08:00:23 PM
It's one of those jobs you lobby for.

If he didn't lobby for the UK job, one of the most prestigious in the sport, TC should have his head examined.  If its offered -- he's gone. that's life
Title: Out clause
Post by: Knight Commission on March 28, 2007, 08:16:38 PM
At least there is no out clause in Crean's contract for UK. Remember this quote from 2003?


Marquette AD Bill Cords said Wednesday that there wasn't a clause that would allow Crean to leave if the Michigan State job ever opens, as was speculated.

"There is no out clause in the contract as has been reported," Cords said. "I can't tell you what's in the contract, but I can tell you what's not in the contract. There is no out clause for Michigan State, Kentucky, the Green Bay Packers or the Dallas Cowboys. Nobody."
Title: Re: DeCourcy's Article.......Crean
Post by: MUEng92 on March 28, 2007, 08:22:52 PM
Future conversation in the Crean Kentucky household....

Tom:  I have to go to a booster club event tonight.

Joanie:  This is your third one this month.  I suppose "She" is going to be there again.

Tom: Who do you mean.... Oh... Ashley Judd... well, maybe....

(Sound of tapping feet)

No, I say Crean isn't going anywhere if Joanie has any say!
Title: Re: Out clause
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Knight Commission on March 28, 2007, 08:16:38 PM
At least there is no out clause in Crean's contract for UK. Remember this quote from 2003?


Marquette AD Bill Cords said Wednesday that there wasn't a clause that would allow Crean to leave if the Michigan State job ever opens, as was speculated.

"There is no out clause in the contract as has been reported," Cords said. "I can't tell you what's in the contract, but I can tell you what's not in the contract. There is no out clause for Michigan State, Kentucky, the Green Bay Packers or the Dallas Cowboys. Nobody."


I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  it doesn't matter if there's an out clause in the contract.  If Crean wants to leave, he's gone.  That's true of any coach.  A coach that is on record as wanting to leave will be released from his contract -- for a price, of course.  What would Marquette gain from keeping Crean against his will?  You think it's tough to recruit when there's rumors about your coach leaving?  Try recruiting when the coach wants to leave but is being prevented from doing so because his contract doesn't have an "out."  Whether or not there is an out, if Crean wants to leave, he and the University will reach some sort of financial agreement, and he's gone.  If that happens, Marquette's best strategy is to get as much cash out of UK as possible, and then spend it on the next coach.
Title: Re: Out clause
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:27:57 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:23:55 PM
What would Marquette gain from keeping Crean against his will?

worked for MU with Al and the Bucks  ;D
Title: Re: Out clause
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:31:22 PM
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:27:57 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:23:55 PM
What would Marquette gain from keeping Crean against his will?

worked for MU with Al and the Bucks  [smiley removed]

I assume, based upon the smiley, that you're kidding.  Obviously, times have changed.  Honest question:  when was the last time a coach was prevented from leaving a college?  Was it Al?
Title: Re: Out clause
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:36:08 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:31:22 PM
I assume, based upon the smiley, that you're kidding.

no, not kidding.......

Another time, the good Jesuits refused to release McGuire from his contract so that he could leave Marquette for a lucrative coaching job with the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks. "The priests at Marquette take a vow of poverty," he said somewhat bitterly, "and they expect you to abide by it."
Title: Re: Out clause
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:47:29 PM
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:36:08 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:31:22 PM
I assume, based upon the smiley, that you're kidding.

no, not kidding.......

Another time, the good Jesuits refused to release McGuire from his contract so that he could leave Marquette for a lucrative coaching job with the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks. "The priests at Marquette take a vow of poverty," he said somewhat bitterly, "and they expect you to abide by it."

I should have been more clear.  I knew you weren't kidding in the sense that it actually happened in the past.  I thought you were kidding in the sense that your post suggested that it might work again.  Maybe you didn't mean to suggest that.  I think things have changed to the point where that really wouldn't work too well any more.
Title: Re: Out clause
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 28, 2007, 08:47:29 PM
I think things have changed to the point where that really wouldn't work too well any more.

no doubt about it
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