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Title: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: mosarsour on March 28, 2007, 05:29:54 PM
Any ideas?  I know he's not gone yet, but it's looking more and more like it's a strong possibility.
Title: Re: Who is going to replace Tom Crean?
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on March 28, 2007, 05:33:16 PM
uh...Tom Crean.  He's not leaving
Title: Re: Who is going to replace Tom Crean?
Post by: Warrior Forever on March 28, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
If he leaves, which I pray doesn't happen, I would go after Dana Altman.

The guy is a winner and great coach.
Title: Re: Who is going to replace Tom Crean?
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 28, 2007, 05:51:33 PM
Yeah, I'll only accept the question if rephrased to "Who would you bring in to coach at Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?"

To assume he's gone would, uh, just make an ASS out of U and ME...
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: jutaw22mu on March 28, 2007, 06:23:16 PM
creans not leaving.


just for fun, why not bring in majerus or even better, how about murf.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 28, 2007, 06:26:54 PM
Oh...you did change the question...in that case...

I'd try to get Greg Marshall. 
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 06:30:46 PM
Mike Brownell.  Midwestern guy and a proven winner at two programs
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: jutaw22mu on March 28, 2007, 06:31:47 PM
what about pat summit.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 28, 2007, 06:33:48 PM
Moe, Curly, or Larry could do at least as well.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 28, 2007, 06:41:03 PM
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 06:30:46 PM
Mike Brownell.  Midwestern guy and a proven winner at two programs

Does Brad Brownell from Wright State have a brother  ;)
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: MilTown on March 28, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
Are the Harrick's available?
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: MUCrisco on March 28, 2007, 06:57:54 PM
Jim Larranaga:  Out of all the coaches clinic's I've been to, this guy was by far my favorite to listen to.  Do you guys remember during their tourney run last year, how he just talked about how much fun they were having?  This guy is really like that.  He is so full of energy that you just get riled up when you listen to him.  During his talk, he probably only talked about basketball for about 30 minutes out of the 2 hours or so.  The rest of the time, he was just talking about life, competing, and having fun.  There were so many quotes of his that I was writing down that I was getting a cramp in my hand.  I would love it if this guy was our coach.

Mike Anderson:  I love his style of ball.  In your face, pressure defense, push the ball up the court and make the other team play your style.  We have the guards to do this.  I truly enjoy watching his teams play.

Bruce Weber:  I know guys are down on his recruiting, but I love his motion offense.  I believe in sharing the basketball, only dribbling with a purpose, spacing and screening.  In my opiniom the motion offense is the purest form of basketball.  He coached at Marquette High, so maybe he would want to come back.

Chris Lowery:  I was really impressed with SIU's defense.  They were smothering.

Tony Bennett:  I think it's a misconception that his teams play ball like his dad's.  His guys actually push the ball.  I like his blockers and movers offense and his team plays great D.  He also can recruit as he was instrumental in getting guys like Devin Harris.


Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: MUCrisco on March 28, 2007, 06:57:54 PM
Chris Lowery:  I was really impressed with SIU's defense.  They were smothering.

Needs a better track record IMHO.....only a head coach for two years.  I think he's the kind of guy MU would have expected to hire when the program was in CUSA
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: MUCrisco on March 28, 2007, 06:57:54 PM
Bruce Weber:  I know guys are down on his recruiting, but I love his motion offense.  I believe in sharing the basketball, only dribbling with a purpose, spacing and screening.  In my opiniom the motion offense is the purest form of basketball.  He coached at Marquette High, so maybe he would want to come back

he can't recruit a lick....no thanks.  its hard enough to recruit at MU -- Weber offers no advantage there. 
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Coobeys Oil Depot on March 28, 2007, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: MUCrisco on March 28, 2007, 06:57:54 PM
Chris Lowery:  I was really impressed with SIU's defense.  They were smothering.

Needs a better track record IMHO.....only a head coach for two years.  I think he's the kind of guy MU would have expected to hire when the program was in CUSA

What else do you want to see from Lowery?
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:19:22 PM
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on March 28, 2007, 07:14:41 PM
What else do you want to see from Lowery?

I wanna see him lead a program for more than 2 years.  His team is led by guys recruited by his predecessor.......Brownell's bio is much more impressive  spanning six years as a head coach in two programs.  Heck he took a 13-15 Wright State team and led tem to 23 wins and a conf tourney title while starting two freshmen this year.

Even he might be a fringe candidate if the MU job came open -- MU moved up a notch these last few years.  Lowry might be good, who knows.  But hey, Bruce Weber looked good with Self's players too. 
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: 🏀 on March 28, 2007, 07:20:10 PM
Consistency from lowery
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:26:34 PM
Quote from: marqptm on March 28, 2007, 07:20:10 PM
Consistency from lowery

yeah, both years.  yippee.  He's never even coached anywhere else but SIU.  Far too limited for national program like MU. 

Of course two years is a shade more than Stan Heath had, and he had a stronger pedigree. that worked out well.

Brad Brownell as a head coach:

06-07, 23-10
05-06, 25-8
04-05, 19-10
03-04, 15-15
02-03, 24-7

conference tourney record (CAA and Horizon)  13-2

not bad, eh?  Not sure MU should even look at him -- I think they can aim higher
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: 🏀 on March 28, 2007, 07:30:03 PM
Oh I agree with you NYWarrior. Lowery should NOT be an option for any outside outside the A-10 or CUSA. Not for another 3-4 years.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: marqptm on March 28, 2007, 07:30:03 PM
Oh I agree with you NYWarrior. Lowery should NOT be an option for any outside outside the A-10 or CUSA. Not for another 3-4 years.

got it!  I need a reading comprehension class  :-X
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: marquette09 on March 28, 2007, 07:50:43 PM
I know this was talked about a lot yesterday......but I would bring in Doc Rivers.  I know that he has had some issues with the Celtics but I think he could be an excellent coach at the college level.  Most importantly, I think he would be a fantastic recruiter!
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: marquette09 on March 28, 2007, 07:50:43 PM
I know this was talked about a lot yesterday......but I would bring in Doc Rivers.  I know that he has had some issues with the Celtics but I think he could be an excellent coach at the college level.  Most importantly, I think he would be a fantastic recruiter!

He's never recruited, so you dont know if he would be 'fantastic' at that aspect of the job.  Drexler sucked at UH because of that.

He's an average coach -- just about .500 in the NBA.

No thanks, MU can do better.
Title: Re: Who is going to replace Tom Crean?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: Warrior Forever on March 28, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
If he leaves, which I pray doesn't happen, I would go after Dana Altman.

The guy is a winner and great coach.

The fans here would bitch a fit.  Altman has 5 first round exits and never made the Sweet 16....that, according to many here, is just flat unacceptable.
Title: Re: Who is going to replace Tom Crean?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: Warrior Forever on March 28, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
If he leaves, which I pray doesn't happen, I would go after Dana Altman.

The guy is a winner and great coach.

The fans here would bitch a fit.  Altman has 5 first round exits and never made the Sweet 16....that, according to many here, is just flat unacceptable.

Screw Altman.....he's in the right spot now and has built a terrific program and has tons of support from Schlegel.  At MU, u have to be able to recruit --its hard to demonstrate that u can at Creighton, so why risk it here at MU. 

Stallings or Majerus
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on March 28, 2007, 08:46:58 PM
Doc? Not in a million trillion years. No flippin' way.
Majerus? I've turned slightly on this, but I'd still say no due to his health.

Personally, I'd want Kruger...badly....IF Crean were to leave, that is.
I like Lowery too.

I think Brownell is the route CUSA would have taken. Let's go for someone established as a great coach, looking to make the leap to/back-to a prime conference.

Maybe Kruger would tell us to stick it. I don't know. But I would say, he's the target. Pay him what Crean's making and see if he bites.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Pardner on March 28, 2007, 08:56:59 PM
No AD in place...who "outside" of the MU family would take the head coach job?   Why has it taken so long to fill the AD spot?  Cords left in December with plenty of lead time (maybe some one here knows).  No AD at the F4 to talk up the program if TC jumps.   No chance we could get any one "outside" the program right now under those circumstances to sign up when the new AD will want "his guy".

Only choice is to go back to the family-- hire Ulice for AD and settle on Majerus for the short term with the experienced team returning and a great pipeline coming.  Let him groom his successor.  Other choice is Jimmy Boylan from the Bulls.  Has been a top assistant and collegiate head coach.  Paid his dues.  Doc is not a fit right now for the collegiate game.  Majerus gets us out of the stepping stone tag and allows him to come full circle.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: drewm88 on March 28, 2007, 09:01:42 PM
To those who know more about the man and the program than I do, what are the chances Coach Rab would get a look? Maybe Majerus for a couple years, and Rab takes it from there?
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 09:03:28 PM
Pardner, it takes a long time to get an AD usually.  A search firm is hired, identifies potential candidates, etc.

MU hasn't had to do this in 20 years so they will do a thorough job.  It's usally a process that takes months.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: drewm88 on March 28, 2007, 09:01:42 PM
To those who know more about the man and the program than I do, what are the chances Coach Rab would get a look? Maybe Majerus for a couple years, and Rab takes it from there?

Unlikely
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: drewm88 on March 28, 2007, 09:16:00 PM
Can you (or another) expand on that? What specifically does he focus on at MU now? Does he fall short when it comes to his unimpressive head-coaching resume? Can he recruit? Can he develop talent? Is it related to his exit from El Paso? He seems like a knowledgeable guy who's active on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Pardner on March 28, 2007, 09:20:06 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 09:03:28 PM
Pardner, it takes a long time to get an AD usually.  A search firm is hired, identifies potential candidates, etc.

MU hasn't had to do this in 20 years so they will do a thorough job.  It's usually a process that takes months.

I would have thought that when he reupped TC, the admin had a major heads up on lead time.  I thought is was weird that an AD retires in the middle of the school year.  I was guessing they had a plan.  If TC goes, we are in trouble is my guess.  Thanks
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: MUDPT on March 28, 2007, 09:52:35 PM
Bring Coach Stephens back to MU as head coach, if TC leaves.
Title: Re: Who is going to replace Tom Crean?
Post by: Warrior Forever on March 28, 2007, 10:58:22 PM
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 28, 2007, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2007, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: Warrior Forever on March 28, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
If he leaves, which I pray doesn't happen, I would go after Dana Altman.

The guy is a winner and great coach.

The fans here would bitch a fit.  Altman has 5 first round exits and never made the Sweet 16....that, according to many here, is just flat unacceptable.

Screw Altman.....he's in the right spot now and has built a terrific program and has tons of support from Schlegel.  At MU, u have to be able to recruit --its hard to demonstrate that u can at Creighton, so why risk it here at MU. 

Stallings or Majerus

Altman can flat out coach.  Given the resources of Marquette as well as the Big East profile, I'm willing to bet he can recruit.

I like the Stallings angle. I'm just not certain he leaves the SEC for MU.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2007, 07:58:30 AM
Anyone think there was ever a chance of Crean's father-in-law becoming AD (Jack Harbaugh)? I don't at all, but curious so I thought I'd throw that out there.

I like Stephens, but again, MU is now in a much better position to bring in a qualified, proven, winning head coach from a solid D-1 program. I'd go that route first before looking to bring in assistants. It depends what the market is, though.

Once this KY job gets sorted out, all kinds of moves will take place the first and second week of April.

While I like Stephens, I wouldn't dare hand over the keys to the program to an un-proven assistant. In 1999? Yeah, it made sense then. But not now. Not when the program's in the best shape it's been for 30 years. Now is not the time to take a stab at someone. Get the highest qualified guy out there.

If Crean does bolt, it will be interesting to see what kind of coach we'd attract. I'm curious as to where MU stacks out in the national spotlight of coaches. Curious...and scared.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 29, 2007, 08:03:55 AM
completely agree on Stephens, Niv.

As for Jack Harbaugh, if TC goes to Lexington I would not be surprised to see Jack head to Palo Alto to help Jim
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: 77fan88warrior on March 29, 2007, 08:19:06 AM

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Published: July 6, 1986
After a nationwide search, Marquette University named Bob Dukiet of St. Peter's College in Jersey City as its basketball coach yesterday.

Dukiet, 37 years old, succeeds Rick Majerus, who resigned June 14 to take an assistant coaching job with the Milwaukee Bucks. Dukiet was at St. Peter's seven seasons and had a record of 135-64. A Boston College graduate, he was an assistant coach at Montclair State College, Dartmouth and Princeton before going toz St. Peter's. ''Needless to say, my heart is pounding a little irregularly right now,'' Dukiet said. ''This is a very emotional time for me.''

Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: mviale on March 29, 2007, 08:31:20 AM
Is lenny or squiggy available?
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on March 29, 2007, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2007, 07:58:30 AM


If Crean does bolt, it will be interesting to see what kind of coach we'd attract. I'm curious as to where MU stacks out in the national spotlight of coaches. Curious...and scared.


I'm in the same boat... curious and nervous. In a previous post this week I asked what schools we thought we were "on par" with... I think that will give us an idea on who we think we can get.

In 1999, we were probably like Dayton, Xavier, Creighton, etc.

In 2007, we are probably more like Villanova and a little behind Georgetown (given there overall history and recent history of success.), and ahead of SJU, even though I think that program could be big if they ever wanted to make it big.

I'm not sure how we stack up against state schools... the playing field is so different given their student/alumni populations, and most have football.

We have some $$ to spend if the right coach comes along... it will just be interesting to see who MU tries to attract.

Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: AlumKCof93 on March 29, 2007, 09:11:55 AM
Lets take the Kentucky perspective and apply it to MU when thinking of possible successors to Crean if he leaves.

1) Coach K - He is also sick of the Cameron Crazies and wants to bolt to get closer to his midwestern roots
2) Roy Williams - too much pressure at NC.  People keep asking him what he's accomplished since Sean May left.
3) Ben Howland - No reason there, he's just a great coach.
4) JWT 3 - Is tired of all the comparisons to his fathers legacy.  Besides having his Dad watching over his shoulder is great while he's winning, but it sucked when they lost those 5 games.  Why not MU?
5) Izzo - He can finish what Crean started.
6) T. Diener - Someday.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on March 29, 2007, 09:36:02 AM
Since the day Travis left, I've predicted that he'll one day be the coach here.

I think MU is better than a lot of average state school programs. I think a proven coach would choose MU over Michigan any day of the week. Michigan's facilities are an abomination. The only way U of M would out do MU is if the university made a hand-shake deal w/the coach promising new facilities and tons of support from the administration.

I also see MU as better than Iowa too. Arkansas? I'd like to think we are on par w/them, but with the good ol' boys in the south, you never know. They always want to one-up each other. I'd say MU is in the top 8 of the big east. That's better than the upper half of a lot of BCS conferences when it comes to hoops in my opinion.

Again, though, hoping we don't have to make that decision.

Majerus = good safety net. you could do a lot, lot worse
Stephens = some day perhaps, but let him get cut his teeth with a Bradley or Wright State or something
Kruger = sadly, I don't think MU would be high enough profile for him, and if he took the job, he'd be here four years mas. Still....I'd sign him in a heartbeat
Heath = a safety net in case Majerus' weight breaks through his safety net

then there's the many mid-major coaches out there that I don't know enough about to comment intelligently.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on March 29, 2007, 10:16:36 AM
I love the idea of Majerus... but I think his health is a legitimate concern.

I'm not a doctor, so I'm not going to speculate on his actual condition... but he has left for health reasons before... so it could happen again.

On the plus side, I don't think he would view MU as a stepping stone to another job, he has TONS of college, NBA, and television contacts, so MU could get good PR, tourny invites, visibility, etc.

I don't know if Rick wants to be out pounding the pavement for recruits, but there is no doubt that he can teach the game and has great experience and contacts.

Also, he's kind of a lovable guy that would fit in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 29, 2007, 10:28:34 AM
Brian Wardle is clearly the leading candidate!
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 29, 2007, 10:45:01 AM
MU great J. Glaser gets my vote !
Title: Re: Who would you bring in to coach Marquette if Tom Crean leaves?
Post by: milkbone on March 29, 2007, 06:44:00 PM
I heard J Glaser knows everything, so he would be a very good choice!!!
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