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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: robmufan on August 18, 2011, 09:55:53 AM

Title: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: robmufan on August 18, 2011, 09:55:53 AM
Looks like the refs better call a fair game, or Gtown might have to choke a b*tch...

http://deadspin.com/5832159/georgetown-brawls-with-chinese-team (http://deadspin.com/5832159/georgetown-brawls-with-chinese-team)
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on August 18, 2011, 10:02:21 AM
Some more pics.

http://slide.sports.sina.com.cn/slide_2_792_15732.html#p=1
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: lab_warrior on August 18, 2011, 12:44:55 PM
Sounds like the Hoyas got the Chinese knock-off referee version of Burr & Higgins?
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: WarriorHal on August 18, 2011, 12:59:24 PM
At first, I figured this was probably caused by Gtown playing aggressive, physical defense and things getting out of hand. Instead, it's just another example of commie bastards trying to "win" by cheating--same as the Soviets in the '72 Olympics.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: foreverwarriors on August 18, 2011, 01:04:02 PM
Video of it...I'd say the Chinese team were definitely the aggressors...don't get me wrong, GU shares blame, but I think this isn't nearly as bad if the Chinese team doesn't gang up first on the GU guy on the baseline

http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-basketball/video-georgetown-basketball-team-brawls-in-china/
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: jaybilaswho? on August 18, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
are they allowed to be playing organized basketball at this point? isnt this against NCAA regulations?
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Cooby Snacks on August 18, 2011, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on August 18, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
are they allowed to be playing organized basketball at this point? isnt this against NCAA regulations?

Teams can do these foreign tours every few years.  Our guys have gone to Costa Rica and Canada in the recent past.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Bob "Big Daddy" Wild on August 18, 2011, 02:11:44 PM
Dear Students,

Someone please make a sign for the GU game "Beware the Chair" written in Mandarin (or something more humorous since I'm not that funny).

Thank You.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Markusquette on August 18, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
Definitely chinese player's fault it seems...can't really blame em (GU)
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: MUMac on August 18, 2011, 04:04:24 PM
Wow, that looked scary.  You could see the Chinese player come running at the GU player and then the GU player goes flying backwards.  That started the melee.  Add to that, the chairs were being thrown and used as weapons by THE PLAYERS from China.

If I were GU, I would say we are done with the tour.

That is the problem with a lot of the international tours.  The games are refereed in a biased way (being kind here) and you have security risk with both the players and fans. 

This looked very scary.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: 77ncaachamps on August 18, 2011, 04:08:30 PM
Do you think that if this happened in Al's era, he would have left them get their licks in and THEN step in?

The discrepancy in fouls definitely reeks foul, but having the chips against you also, using a Buzz term, reveals the character of your team.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Pakuni on August 18, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
The Hoyas sure could have used Allen Iverson for that game.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: MUMac on August 18, 2011, 04:26:12 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on August 18, 2011, 04:08:30 PM
Do you think that if this happened in Al's era, he would have left them get their licks in and THEN step in?

The discrepancy in fouls definitely reeks foul, but having the chips against you also, using a Buzz term, reveals the character of your team.

Fouls are one thing.  As it sounds, by reading some of the commentary and watching this clip, it was not the fouls that was problematic.  It was the physical nature and abuse of the fouls that caused the issues.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 18, 2011, 04:44:31 PM
Stay classy china.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 18, 2011, 07:07:10 PM
USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Blackhat on August 18, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
nm
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: hoyasincebirth on August 18, 2011, 07:58:52 PM
That escalated quickly huh? I mean that really got out of hand fast.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: sgurgs on August 18, 2011, 08:04:50 PM
not the first time this has happened over here. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6mUm-0hlEI

i was at the duke-china national (second) team game yesterday, refs called it close (and you got the feeling they were "protecting" the Chinese side), but called a better game than the georgetown game - 28 GU fouls to 11 Bayi. 

Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on August 18, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
Quote from: hoyasincebirth on August 18, 2011, 07:58:52 PM
That escalated quickly huh? I mean that really got out of hand fast.

Anchorman FTW
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Logi4three on August 18, 2011, 11:14:06 PM
Quote from: YoungMUFan4 on August 18, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
Anchorman FTW

Yeah. I stabbed a man in the heart with a trident!
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: LA on August 18, 2011, 11:17:48 PM
Quote from: MUMac on August 18, 2011, 04:04:24 PM
Wow, that looked scary.  You could see the Chinese player come running at the GU player and then the GU player goes flying backwards.  That started the melee.  Add to that, the chairs were being thrown and used as weapons by THE PLAYERS from China.

Lived in China for a year now and that is simply how they fight here. It doesn't matter how big and strong you are, it is all about numbers. Any fight in a bar and you better clear out because some dude and 20 of his buddies will be stabbing everyone within reach with broken bottles in a hot second. Every fight is a life or death situation, scary stuff.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: downtown85 on August 19, 2011, 04:20:33 AM
Quote from: LA on August 18, 2011, 11:17:48 PM
Lived in China for a year now and that is simply how they fight here. It doesn't matter how big and strong you are, it is all about numbers. Any fight in a bar and you better clear out because some dude and 20 of his buddies will be stabbing everyone within reach with broken bottles in a hot second. Every fight is a life or death situation, scary stuff.

Scary stuff indeed, I bet it was a little bit frightening...those cats were fast as lightening. Everybody was kung fu fighting, I bet.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: LA on August 19, 2011, 05:04:44 AM
....and they had expert timing.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: groove on August 19, 2011, 06:56:39 AM
....there was funky Billy Chin and little Sammy Chung
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Skatastrophy on August 19, 2011, 07:54:09 AM
I finally watched the video.  That's some seriously scary crap.  Hopefully the GTown boys are alright.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: avid1010 on August 19, 2011, 07:58:11 AM
I was half asleep this morning when they played it on ESPN, but I could swear they said the two teams are scheduled to play again, and Thompson said his kids will be ready to play.  Thought they said it was a military school team.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on August 19, 2011, 08:31:11 AM
Two Wongs don't make a White.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on August 19, 2011, 08:38:17 AM
Quote from: LA on August 18, 2011, 11:17:48 PM
Lived in China for a year now and that is simply how they fight here. It doesn't matter how big and strong you are, it is all about numbers. Any fight in a bar and you better clear out because some dude and 20 of his buddies will be stabbing everyone within reach with broken bottles in a hot second...

So it's like living amongst 1/2 billion Sig Eps?

That's f-ed.

Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on August 19, 2011, 09:17:17 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on August 19, 2011, 08:31:11 AM
Two Wongs don't make a White.

I'm marrying a Wong. If I had a nickel everytime I've heard that joke...or tossed it in her direction. haha

I've only been with her for two years, I can't imagine how many times she's heard it!
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: hoyasincebirth on August 19, 2011, 09:39:56 AM
Hoyas are all safe and sound. They are continuing the tour.

The rematch game is up in the air. Sunday's opponent is now listed as TBA.

The Bayi Rockets are the Military team. They're all members of the PLA. So grown men with military training attacking college kids. SMH.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: dgies9156 on August 19, 2011, 09:51:48 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on August 18, 2011, 04:08:30 PM
Do you think that if this happened in Al's era, he would have left them get their licks in and THEN step in?

The discrepancy in fouls definitely reeks foul, but having the chips against you also, using a Buzz term, reveals the character of your team.

In Al's era, they came here. Our guys played the Cubans and Russians between 1975 and 1978. Sure, there would have been some anger over the physical play, but don't forget that Al's message was waste them where it mattered -- on the basketball court playing better basketball.

I remember only once where things really got out of control with an Al Coached team -- a 1972 game against South Carolina in Columbia where the game was quite physical and the guys just pounding on each other. It was a Sunday afternoon national TV game and it became real ugly real quick.

But that's the only time I ever remember an Al team losing its composure. Now Al, on the other hand.....

Incidentally, the Russians were the 1972 Olympic Thieves and Marquette destroyed them. Just wasted them.

That was the night we knew we had something special. 18 months later, we were proven right.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on August 19, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-georgetown-chinese-teams-make-peace-after-brawl-20110819,0,3416504.story

BEIJING — The Chinese team that got into a nasty brawl with Georgetown University players in an exhibition game went to the Beijing airport Friday to reconcile and see off their departing rivals ahead of a rematch Sunday in Shanghai.

A brief statement from Georgetown said head coach John Thompson III and two of the team's players met with representatives of China's Bayi Rockets following "heated exchanges" in Thursday night's exhibition game.

Elections Chinese Vice Foreign Minsiter Cui Tiankai said Bayi members went to Beijing airport to see off the Georgetown team and the sides exchanged souvenirs.

"My understanding is that it's all cleared up," Cui told reporters at a briefing on Vice President Joe Biden's ongoing visit to China. "We're pleased about this outcome."

The two teams play each other again on Sunday in Shanghai.

Chinese basketball fans slammed Bayi, which is owned by China's military, for its part in the brawl that forced the cancelation of a match intended to promote U.S.-China goodwill during Biden's visit.

Video footage showing players punching each other and throwing chairs spread swiftly on the Internet and worldwide TV news.

"The Bayi team have really lost face now," wrote a user named anoia on China's popular microblog Sina Weibo, the Chinese equivalent of Twitter. "No matter who is right and who is wrong, you have fought the visiting team as the host ... especially while their second man in charge is in this country."

It was the latest instance of on-court fighting by China, whose players have been fined tens of thousands of dollars by the world and Asian federations for scrapping with opponents.

In October, China's national basketball coach, a manager and three players were suspended for an ugly brawl with Brazil's team that left one Chinese player in a neck brace. Fights are also not uncommon at Chinese football matches.

The video clip appears to show American players falling over Chinese players as they all run for the ball, and then two members from each side slamming into each other. Seconds later, the brawl breaks out.

Chinese fans weren't impressed.

"Does the Bayi team think they are better at Chinese kungfu than basketball and that is why they are desperate to show it off," said a Sina Weibo user named JF1113.

"I just don't get it that China is fighting other people all the time. And they lose the games too," said another user named QimaDdou.

Another, nego—lu, called players in China "poorly educated."

The Georgetown Hoyas are in China on a 10-day goodwill trip that has been cited by the U.S. State Department as an example of sports diplomacy that strengthens ties between the two countries' peoples.

Su Qun, a well-known basketball commentator in China, said blame shouldn't be aimed solely at the players.

"It's not correct for players to fight. But we see fighting occasionally and it is often because of management problems in sports teams," he said. "It's important that teams have strict rules on discipline."

Several NBA players have been considering China as a destination in the event the U.S. season was canceled due to a labor dispute.

However, the Chinese Basketball Association poured cold water on those ambitions Friday, saying it would not accept contracted NBA players, and would require any free agents coming to the Chinese league to play for the full season.
Title: Re: Gtown Fight vs. Chinese Team
Post by: SERocks on August 19, 2011, 11:07:28 AM
Hm...if they do play on Sunday, it could be interesting.  Anyone know if the game would be televised here?
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