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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Warriors4 on July 22, 2011, 08:25:51 AM

Title: Tyus Jones
Post by: Warriors4 on July 22, 2011, 08:25:51 AM
We just offered him...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/preps/125988773.html

I hate Coach K so badly...

Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: 🏀 on July 22, 2011, 08:29:13 AM
Hate him, but would take him in a second.
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: GGGG on July 22, 2011, 08:31:52 AM
Well, Coach K can be kind of a dick, but I'm not sure why you would "hate" him.  Jelous maybe???
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: Warriors4 on July 22, 2011, 08:34:29 AM
Maybe.  Just in reading Tyus's reaction in the article to his phone call.  Seems likely that he can basically get any kid he wants.  I just hope someday Buzz and MU are the Coach K and Duke of today.   ;D
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: nyg on July 22, 2011, 09:03:57 AM
Buzz has so many offers out there for 2012, 2013 and now 2014, he is really due to land one of these Top 20 recruits. 
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: 🏀 on July 22, 2011, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: Warriors4 on July 22, 2011, 08:34:29 AM
Maybe.  Just in reading Tyus's reaction in the article to his phone call.  Seems likely that he can basically get any kid he wants.  I just hope someday Buzz and MU are the Coach K and Duke of today.   ;D

With his record, he should have the ear of any kid in the nation. Especially a low flyer until the Peach Jam.
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: Skatastrophy on July 22, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: nyg on July 22, 2011, 09:03:57 AM
Buzz has so many offers out there for 2012, 2013 and now 2014, he is really due to land one of these Top 20 recruits. 

I've offered everyone in the Top 100 to play on my neighborhood's team too.  I'm bound to land a couple one of these years.
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 22, 2011, 10:07:32 AM
I hate him too. A bit jealous of the program he stewards, I admit. But the fact that he signs players who you know will see more time at MU than at Duke.

It's a year old article but it references the transfer trend at Duke:

"Since 2006, Duke has had five scholarship players transfer to other schools either before or shortly after their sophomore season.  Duke lost two of its 2005 recruiting class members in Eric Boateng and Jamal Boykin. Taylor King transfered to Villanova after his freshman season at Duke in 2008.

After last season, Elliot Williams transferred to Memphis to be closer to his ailing mother.

Now, Czyz joins Williams as a departure from Duke's 2008 recruiting class, leaving Miles Plumlee as the only remaining member of that incoming class still at Duke (which is ironic since he was a last minute decommit from Stanford).

This is certainly a concerning trend for the Blue Devils program (although Williams' transfer should probably be looked at differently).

Sure, most of the players weren't significant contributors and had little chance of cracking the rotation before their junior or senior seasons, but think about this—Duke has lost half of its players from the 2007 and 2008 recruiting classes. That won't exactly help Duke field an experienced team in a few years."

In fact, 2007 recruits Singler and Smith both stayed on for their senior campaigns.
But Irving departed for the draft meaning only two recruits from their 2010 class remain: Hairston and Thornton.
With the 3rd Plumlee in the mix, Kelly will be lucky to see his 20 mpg increase.


I guess I wish we had that luxury of star player out, star player in.

Until then, it's GTST. Every Damn Day.


Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on July 22, 2011, 11:34:34 AM
From two months ago also a Star Tribune article.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27064.msg306337#msg306337
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: Jam Chowder on July 22, 2011, 02:21:45 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 22, 2011, 10:07:32 AM
Until then, it's GTST. Every Damn Day.

This. We aren't Duke and never will be. The underdog/chip-on-our-shoulder attitude has been/is/always will be at the center of the Warrior identity. As much as some would like to think otherwise, MU fans need to continue to embrace this reality. Our team will always have to work harder and out-hustle the competition, and I love that.

As much as it would be nice to be a pretty boy program with stud recruits waiting at the door for an offer, I just don't see it. We'll continue to improve (and have success in the tournament), and I do think that Buzz will get some of these blue-chip guys in the future, but I think that they will always retain that Junkyard Dog identity, and I wouldn't really want it any other way.
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: muhoops1 on July 22, 2011, 04:54:06 PM
it's really an honor just to be considered by these kids.
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 22, 2011, 07:04:55 PM
I see it as those kids should be honored that Marquette is considering them.
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on July 24, 2011, 04:19:43 PM
I don't quite understand the strategy of making so many offers when there are so few openings.  It seems to undermine the value of an offer.  Shouldn't an offer be made with a deadline for acceptance?  I also don't understand why it is so difficult to fill a scholarship period for a blue chip team like Marquette!
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: TedBaxter on July 24, 2011, 04:38:11 PM
Without the spring recruiting period available for coaches to go out and see players, some of the kids this month are being seen live for the first time.  If I'm not mistaken, verbal commitments are lagging compared to recent years among the top 150, although Buzz already has 2 of his 4 openings filled.
Title: Re: Tyus Jones
Post by: Hards Alumni on July 24, 2011, 08:52:23 PM
Quote from: msbjim on July 24, 2011, 04:19:43 PM
I don't quite understand the strategy of making so many offers when there are so few openings.  It seems to undermine the value of an offer.  Shouldn't an offer be made with a deadline for acceptance?  I also don't understand why it is so difficult to fill a scholarship period for a blue chip team like Marquette!

Probably around 90% of offers are conditional.
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