MU classmate from Tosa mentioned this guy to me:
Diamond Stone, 6'8" (!!!) incoming freshman who is from Tosa East but will be playing at Dominican in high school. I guess his dad played at UW-Whitewater with Jamil's dad.
I'm figurin' Kevon Looney.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 21, 2011, 06:52:15 PM
I'm figurin' Kevon Looney.
Looney is the real deal. 6' 4" now, plays like a guard and has good range. He gets another 3-4 inches, he'll be super, super dangerous.
I have met Kevon Looney. He is part of the Running Rebels Organization, which speaks a lot where he is trying to make a difference in the community. If I am not mistaken, he is focused academically as well. MU is definitely recruiting him.
For a fact, Kevon was 6'5" last March.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/125695/kevon-looney
I would hope we're recruiting him.
Seen him (Stone) many, many times. He is a legit 6' 8", maybe 6' 9", but doesn't seem engaged at all. Almost seems bored. Maybe that will change. Plays for AAU for Wisconsin Legends. I think they won the Lebron AAU tourney in Ohio earlier this summer. When you team him up with good 3-point shooters, they have an almost unstoppable in-and-out game. Certainly has the name. Funny seeing him playing against traditional suburban 8th graders that are 5' 6".
Kevon needs to get stronger and quicker. He's been to the UWV vs. MU and ND vs MU games. UW had him there as well and compares him to Jalen Rose. Academics are a non-issue and he's been invited to open gym at the Al. Also, did I mention that Nick Young of the Wizards is his 1st cousin? School's out, however, if UNC or Duke come callin'.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 21, 2011, 08:14:57 PM
Kevon needs to get stronger and quicker. He's been to the UWV vs. MU and ND vs MU games. UW had him there as well and compares him to Jalen Rose. Academics are a non-issue and he's been invited to open gym at the Al. Also, did I mention that Nick Young of the Wizards is his 1st cousin? School's out, however, if UNC or Duke come callin'.
School's out?
Quote from: marqptm on July 21, 2011, 08:33:47 PM
School's out?
As in, every other university is relegated to "also ran" status.
I too thought Looney when I saw the title. One thing I will say, Wisconsin seems to be doing a bit better when it comes to high school talent. Tokoto, Dekker, Wilson, Blue, Looney, Fischer, Koenig, now this Stone kid, and I know there are a few more top 100 guys in the mix. I'm not trying to say whatsoever that WI will be comparing to the top states any time soon, but if we can produce 2-3 top 100s per year, that has to give MU a bit of an edge. At least makes it a little easier on Buzz, not always having to travel to Virginia, Texas, Florida, or Cali.
Sam Dekker...he is blowing up right now in a major way! Will be a Mcd AA!
Quote from: thebadge10 on July 22, 2011, 10:58:53 PM
Sam Dekker...he is blowing up right now in a major way! Will be a Mcd AA!
Oh, I didn't hear, did he recommit to UNC or Duke?
thevag.... we're looking for the next big star here, not next player to barely score against Butler.
Tanner Bronson salutes the traditional effort though.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 21, 2011, 08:14:57 PM
Kevon needs to get stronger and quicker. He's been to the UWV vs. MU and ND vs MU games. UW had him there as well and compares him to Jalen Rose. Academics are a non-issue and he's been invited to open gym at the Al. Also, did I mention that Nick Young of the Wizards is his 1st cousin? School's out, however, if UNC or Duke come callin'.
I wonder if Looney will have enough time before college to get stronger and quicker? I believe that he is between his FRESHMEN and SOPHOMORE year in High School......Time is running out..... he must be 15 or 16 years old by now.
Lotta room on his frame to fill out. As we have seen a good rigorous weight program can do wonders, but that may not happens till college. Kevin's a good kid from a good family and he knows what he needs to do. Dad is highly involved also and was a former player as well. Schollies are often extended on potential. Won't be 16 till next year.
Saw Looney play twice last year - definitely the real deal
Right now Stone overmatches everyone. Hopefully, the light will go on when in HS. There are many HS players in Wisconsin right now that are going to make an impact. Looney is great and his buddy David Burrell isn't to shabby. Deonte Burton is making a big noise, Bronson Koenig,
Duane Wilson, Nick Fuller, Luke Fischer, Toby Hegner needs weight, Matt Thomas and don't forget Austin Mecca of Manitowoc. Very good players already.
The Next big thing in WI basketball will be Jake Diener from Fond du Lac. 6 foot 3 220 pounds of pure scoring ability!
Quote from: MUFan11 on July 23, 2011, 08:03:40 PM
The Next big thing in WI basketball will be Jake Diener from Fond du Lac. 6 foot 3 220 pounds of pure scoring ability!
But this can't be! ZERO assists...from a Diener?!? ;p
http://www.wissports.net/team.asp?pageID=8&tid=124&playerID=185162&sportID=1
Diamond Stone.......that is all-name team worthy. However, no one will ever supplant the Majestic and Scientific Mapp brothers IMO.
Anyhow, it's great to hear of elite up-and-coming talent in the Brew. I always like our chances. Let's just hope these guys don't maintain top 25 rankings.....those guys always seem to leave.
Jakes stats were hindered due lack of playing time. He will explode onto the scene this year, I believe he is the leading scorer on his AAU team.
Quote from: MUFan11 on July 24, 2011, 12:34:44 AM
Jakes stats were hindered due lack of playing time. He will explode onto the scene this year, I believe he is the leading scorer on his AAU team.
Anyone with the name Diener from Fondle Sac has been thoroughly scouted. Perhaps he is a late bloomer, but the cupboards are full at guard for 2012. MU needs bigs.......at minimum more "switchables"
Dekkar is an absolute stud. Wish we had him.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on July 24, 2011, 01:06:28 AM
Anyone with the name Diener from Fondle Sac has been thoroughly scouted. Perhaps he is a late bloomer, but the cupboards are full at guard for 2012. MU needs bigs.......at minimum more "switchables"
Full at 2-guard, maybe. We still need another point. Kris Dunn would be a perfect fit, especially if we got either Mitch McGary or Shaquille Cleare to go along with him.
Branden Key class of 2015. I believe he is going to be playing at Milwaukee Hamilton but I could be wrong looks like he has some serious skills.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mwballers#p/u/3/aIalRnyNjTE (http://www.youtube.com/user/mwballers#p/u/3/aIalRnyNjTE)
Kevon looney. Looks much bigger than 6'4 here. Has some durant in him. Slithery smooth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ5AgMyka9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Quote from: QuetteHoops on August 01, 2011, 02:35:23 PM
Branden Key class of 2015. I believe he is going to be playing at Milwaukee Hamilton but I could be wrong looks like he has some serious skills.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mwballers#p/u/3/aIalRnyNjTE (http://www.youtube.com/user/mwballers#p/u/3/aIalRnyNjTE)
Related to this ... Does anyone else think it is an "issue" that MU gets very few Milwaukee kids? We all carry on about recruiting Wisconsin or Chicago but never Milwaukee.
I started a thread about it this spring
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26073.msg291094;topicseen#msg291094
1977 - Gary Rosenberger (MU High)
Bill Neary was from Wauwatosa but went to MU high
Jim Dudley was from South Milwaukee and sent to Prairie in Racine
1994 - Damon Key (MU High)
John Pogodzinski went to Pius XI but was from West Ellis
2003 - Robert Jackson (Washington HS)
2011 - Dwight Buycks (Bay View)
(I'm not including walk-ons, only schollie players)
I also believe MU has no Milwaukee players between Jackson and Buycks. Not sure about 1977 to 1994. Please correct this list if you see any errors.
Other than transfer Jackson and Juco Buycks, it has been almost 20 years since MU recruited a Milwaukee kid out of high school (Key and Pogodzinski)
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on August 16, 2011, 06:42:45 AM
Related to this ... Does anyone else think it is an "issue" that MU gets very few Milwaukee kids? We all carry on about recruiting Wisconsin or Chicago but never Milwaukee.
I started a thread about it this spring
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26073.msg291094;topicseen#msg291094
1977 - Gary Rosenberger (MU High)
Bill Neary was from Wauwatosa but went to MU high
Jim Dudley was from South Milwaukee and sent to Prairie in Racine
1994 - Damon Key (MU High)
John Pogodzinski went to Pius XI but was from West Ellis
2003 - Robert Jackson (Washington HS)
2011 - Dwight Buycks (Bay View)
(I'm not including walk-ons, only schollie players)
I also believe MU has no Milwaukee players between Jackson and Buycks. Not sure about 1977 to 1994.
Coincidence or a sign of what MU needs to be successful in the Tourney?
Off the top of my head, you can add Terry Sanders, Scott Merrit, Jon Mueller and Keith Stewart (though the latter is debatable).
Are you talking city of Milwaukee? Otherwise, Novak is from Brown Deer. The city schools have had trouble getting kids to qualify. That has been a problem.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on August 16, 2011, 06:42:45 AM
Related to this ... Does anyone else think it is an "issue" that MU gets very few Milwaukee kids? We all carry on about recruiting Wisconsin or Chicago but never Milwaukee.
I started a thread about it this spring
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26073.msg291094;topicseen#msg291094
1977 - Gary Rosenberger (MU High)
Bill Neary was from Wauwatosa but went to MU high
Jim Dudley was from South Milwaukee and sent to Prairie in Racine
1994 - Damon Key (MU High)
John Pogodzinski went to Pius XI but was from West Ellis
2003 - Robert Jackson (Washington HS)
2011 - Dwight Buycks (Bay View)
(I'm not including walk-ons, only schollie players)
I also believe MU has no Milwaukee players between Jackson and Buycks. Not sure about 1977 to 1994. Please correct this list if you see any errors.
Other than transfer Jackson and Juco Buycks, it has been almost 20 years since MU recruited a Milwaukee kid out of high school (Key and Pogodzinski)
I think it's worth asking if there are a lot of Milwaukee kids going elsewhere and achieving relatively high levels of success. If there were Milwaukee kids going on to highly successful college (and NBA careers) then I think it would be a big deal. I don't think that's the case so I don't think it's an issue.
Quote from: MUMac on August 16, 2011, 06:52:24 AM
Off the top of my head, you can add Terry Sanders, Scott Merrit, Jon Mueller and Keith Stewart (though the latter is debatable).
Are you talking city of Milwaukee? Otherwise, Novak is from Brown Deer. The city schools have had trouble getting kids to qualify. That has been a problem.
No I'm talking about the city of Milwaukee kids, not the suburbs. To your list ....
These two were "suburb kids"Scott Merritt was from 'tosa and went to 'tosa east
John Mueller is from Cedarburg (but did go to MU high)
These two were "Milwaukee kids"Keith Stewart is from Milwaukee (via King & Messmer)
Terry Sanders is from Milwaukee (via Vincent & Hargrave Academy)
seen Diamond play a bunch of times-- my kid is a jr Raider as well, but a few years younger and 5 feet shorter!
nice kid- has a good demeanor... treats teammates and opponents very well.
dwarfs all around him.
broke some bones (wrist?) early in the hoops season and didn't come back til way late.
doesn't dog it, but he hasn't caught up to his body yet (conditioning-wise) and labors a bit up and down the floor, but just a bit.
has a decent f/t stroke.
strong at the glass, but it could be a matter of him being so much taller.
played a great in/out game in the contests I saw him play.
missed a dunk and coach pulled him... after some bench instruction, came back and played even better.
funny to see parents from other schools wanting to card the lad!
btw: that tosa team had another couple of kids that were outstanding.
one, who's brother played varsity, was outstanding and will be worth it to watch.
name escapes me, but I'll post it when my synapsis start firing again.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on August 16, 2011, 07:14:14 AM
I think it's worth asking if there are a lot of Milwaukee kids going elsewhere and achieving relatively high levels of success. If there were Milwaukee kids going on to highly successful college (and NBA careers) then I think it would be a big deal. I don't think that's the case so I don't think it's an issue.
Milwaukee kids that played in the NBA and did not go to MU ..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI
Freddy Brown
Rodney Buford
Patrick Eddie
Devin Harris
John Johnson
Mark Jones
Carl Laundry
Marcus Landry
Richard Miller
Kurt Nimphius
Terry Porter
Latrell Sprewell
Mike Taylor
Mike Wilks
Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999 Marshall Williams
1998 Jose Winston
1991 Calvin Rayford
1989 Chris Jones
wasn't Dean Marquardt a Milwaukee guy?
He played ball at Washington
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on August 16, 2011, 07:45:11 AM
wasn't Dean Marquardt a Milwaukee guy?
He played ball at Washington
Yes, another Milwaukee kid
Without doing any research, wasn't Devin Harris a Tosa kid?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on August 16, 2011, 07:26:44 AM
Milwaukee kids that played in the NBA and did not go to MU ..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI
Freddy Brown
Rodney Buford
Patrick Eddie
Devin Harris
John Johnson
Mark Jones
Carl Laundry
Marcus Landry
Richard Miller
Kurt Nimphius
Terry Porter
Latrell Sprewell
Mike Taylor
Mike Wilks
Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU
2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999 Marshall Williams
1998 Jose Winston
1991 Calvin Rayford
1989 Chris Jones
Quote from: avid1010 on August 16, 2011, 07:48:09 AM
Without doing any research, wasn't Devin Harris a Tosa kid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Harris
From his wiki:
Harris was born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin; the son of Terry and Julie Harris. Throughout high school, Harris was a superior athlete and took up basketball and volleyball at Wauwatosa East High SchoolI'll let finer minds decide if he is a "Milwaukee kid"
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on August 16, 2011, 07:26:44 AM
Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU
2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999 Marshall Williams
Well, to be real anal, Williams did transfer to MU from NCSU, but I don't think he ever played here.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on August 16, 2011, 07:26:44 AM
Milwaukee kids that played in the NBA and did not go to MU ..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI
Freddy Brown
Rodney Buford
Patrick Eddie
Devin Harris
John Johnson
Mark Jones
Carl Laundry
Marcus Landry
Richard Miller
Kurt Nimphius
Terry Porter
Latrell Sprewell
Mike Taylor
Mike Wilks
Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU
2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999 Marshall Williams
1998 Jose Winston
1991 Calvin Rayford
1989 Chris Jones
Thanks for the info, 84. That's a solid, but unspectacular group. Definitely some guys on there who could have helped MU.
I guess I was thinking more about the last 10 years or so. If we go back to college class of 2000, we're left with just Taylor, Wilks and the Landry brothers. That's only 4 guys and I'm pretty sure Taylor didn't qualify and Carl Landry really wasn't on anyone's radar. Wilks would have been a nice heir apparent to Hutchins but, although a year apart, I don't think he would have been a huge upgrade over Cordell Henry (who was a more highly-touted HS player). Marcus Landry would have made a nice fourth "amigo" but other than that, I don't think MU really missed out on much in terms of Milwaukee kids.
EDIT: Rodney Buford was college class of 1999. He definitely would have been a big upgrade over Bargen, Lovette or Polonowski.
Marshall Williams blew out a knee at NCSU and never was the same. The rehab seemed to be left up to him. He commited to Marquette but never signed any papers. After that he did a redshirt transfer years at Green Bay but when they had a coaching changes he didn't like Kowalczyk's early morning practices and ended up going to Georgetown of Kentucky, a D2 or D3 program. He did OK there.
Carl Landry also did not qualify. I believe he went to JUCO at Vincenness University before ending up at Purdue. We were in on Devin Harris, but we got Deiner instead. We were in on Marcus Landry, but we got Wes intead. Both would out for us...and for UW.
You guys are forgetting Pat Foley, late '80's from Marquette High.
You would have consider if we were even interested in them and who we recruited instead. I believe there have been a couple of Milwaukee kids that went (Larry House?) to Creighton and did very well there.
Quote from: bilsu on August 16, 2011, 09:33:17 AM
You would have consider if we were even interested in them and who we recruited instead. I believe there have been a couple of Milwaukee kids that went (Larry House?) to Creighton and did very well there.
Buford also went to Creighton and I believe he is the school's all-time leading scorer.
Crean recruited Carl Landry out of Juco.
He wanted to come but the admin said no because we already had 1 juco on the team(Marcus Jackson) and they wanted to see how that worked out before accepting another. :'(
I cannot recall the talent in Milwaukee/Wisconsin being THIS good in recent years.
I'd like to attribute the rise in talent to Marquette and Wisconsin's success in MBB, but I'm sure the better coaching and organizing that's happening at the AAU level has a lot to do with it.
Off Topic: Someone mentioned Majestic Mapp. http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-07/sports/29538172_1_majestic-mapp-virginia-parkchester