Sounds like it's official....let's see how long it takes for the Buzz to A&M rumors to start.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Maryland-hires-Mark-Turgeon-as-next-head-basketball-coach-050911
http://www.cbssports.com/#!/collegebasketball/story/15047629/texas-ams-turgeon-agrees-to-take-maryland-position
Here's another report.
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on May 09, 2011, 08:22:30 PM
Sounds like it's official....let's see how long it takes for the Buzz to A&M rumors to start.
It's been all over the Internet today that Buzz would be a top pick by A&M if Turgeon moves to Maryland.
It's Texas. If Buzz goes he goes. There's not much we can do to keep a guy away from his home.
That being said, Buzz has been nothing but loyal to MU. I'll take him at his word that he's staying.
Dallas Morning News already stating "Buzz Williams as logical replacement" but made note that he turned down Okl. and signed a hefty deal.
What do you guys think will happen with Faust/Bruenig after this hire?
Could get ugly. Might have to make a move for Phil Jackson.
Wow, just when I thought this was over, they pull me back in (terrible play on words Godfather III). Anyways i definatly see him going. AAARRRGGHHHH.
Buzz has a history with the Aggies having been an assistant there. Probably still knows a whole host of folks there. This, in all likelihood, will not be a long drawn out affair either way.
Not really worried....A&M cares little about basketball.
Dolla Bill is pretty good at up and coming hires and has built up the athletic program as a whole since coming from Nebraska but I really see him going for a prospect than getting in a bidding war with us.
Plus they've got to save up for when they fire Mike Sherman to buy Nick Saban and screw Alabama again.
As I said in another thread, I could easily see Buzz jumping to A&M. It's home, his family is a lot closer, he already has good ties with high school, AAU and JUCO coaches in the area, and he'd have the opportunity to put A&M basketball on the map. I think we'll find out soon enough one way or the other.
Here's the DMN story:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20110509-mark-turgeon-leaving-texas-am-accepts-maryland-coaching-offer.ece
One thing I've learned in 31 years of living in Texas....don't ever guess what A&M might do when it comes to sports....and remember that their women's team just won the NC.....more reason than ever for them to up the ante in the mens' program.
Agree, this should be answered quickly from the Buzz point of view but don't be surprised if they offer to throw crazy money his way.....
Cock-sucker Katz comes through as always:
Texas A&M will likely first target Marquette's Buzz Williams to replace Turgeon. Williams was a former Aggies assistant under then-coach Billy Gillispie. But Williams will be tough to pry away from Marquette after receiving a new contract and coaching the Golden Eagles into the Sweet 16 last March.
Quote from: Stone Cold on May 09, 2011, 09:01:52 PM
Cock-sucker Katz comes through as always:
Texas A&M will likely first target Marquette's Buzz Williams to replace Turgeon. Williams was a former Aggies assistant under then-coach Billy Gillispie. But Williams will be tough to pry away from Marquette after receiving a new contract and coaching the Golden Eagles into the Sweet 16 last March.
What's so bad about that?
A&M almost certainly will make a play at Buzz. And Buzz almost certainly will be tough to pry away. If anything, this is a positive report for MU.
Tough, but not impossible. Bet A&M has been in contact already, directly or indirectly. Maybe I'll check out his hood in The Quon.
If it was just this report I wouldn't say anything but when Katz throws out Buzz's name for every coaching change south of the Mason Dixon (remember Buzz and his arkansas ties???) it gets ridiculous, especially with his past history with Crean.
It's nice for him to speculate rather than wait till he hears something from someone. But that's what 24/7 "reporting" needs now a days.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 09, 2011, 09:07:11 PM
Tough, but not impossible. Bet A&M has been in contact already, directly or indirectly. Maybe I'll check out his hood in The Quon.
If he's building a bonfire we're f**ked.
Buzz makes more money then A&M football coach Mike Sherman.......Hard to see this happening but I guess you never know.
I see smoke north of here.
I understand the Texas connection, but if Turgeon felt the need to leave A&M for Maryland, I'm not sure it says that A&M is that great of a job.
Turg makes 2.5 now at Maryland, if A&M didn't want to compete with that than not sure Buzz is that much more of a sure thing for that price. They might as well have gone after Turg. If they did compete but Turg just prefers DC recruiting and the area then we may have to worry about them getting a basketball appetite.
I really don't think that is the case, A&M couldn't fill the gym when Gillispie was doing magical things. A&M attendance was south of 10k of 13 k Reed Arena this past year with 3 consecutive NCAA tourney teams.
Quote from: Stone Cold on May 09, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
If he's building a bonfire we're f**ked.
Why? Is Buzz God or something? He said he wouldn't leave. If he does, then he's just like every other coach. We will find someone else and one would hope with Midwest ties that plans on staying in the Midwest.
Yeah, let's put a shout out at Brad Stevens crib.
Eh, Texas A&M is not a dream job and Buzz has something going here...and he's making a lot of money. I'm not too worried about him leaving.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 09, 2011, 09:50:27 PM
Yeah, let's put a shout out at Brad Stevens crib.
He could make a brief stop here while waiting for the IU job to open up.
Buzz would really hurt MU by leaving now, this late. MU would be hard pressed to find the right man, just like
Hank had to do when Rick left. MU took a big gamble on Buzz, his loyalty at this point in his career should be
to MU, even gave him an outstanding contract for a third year coach, seriously $2M A YEAR. There will be a lot
of opportunities for Buzz to do whatever he wants in the future, right now it is at MU. Every coach that left MU
lately as found out it is not been that great. TC will turn it around at IU but it will take 6 years or so to do that
and there is no guarantee that will happen!
"I will stay as long as Marquette will have me"
Isn't there some $3.4 million buyout on Buzz's contract too? So A&M would have to pay ~$6 million for Buzz just for next year if they want to match MU's salary.
That's not a current quote...can't hold him to that old quote. ...Separately however, Buzz signed the big extension had many new quotes about staying in which to choose...that are recent and current. He isn't leaving for the Aggies at this time, so this is all mute.
..Meant "moot" ...(it's late.)
Meh...rumors will start. To get Buzz to leave, A&M would have to offer their basketball coach more than their football coach is currently making. In Texas. Right. Buzz isn't going anywhere.
You miss the point. I don't think he is going anywhere and will honor that quote and his recently signed contract
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 09, 2011, 11:30:31 PM
Meh...rumors will start. To get Buzz to leave, A&M would have to offer their basketball coach more than their football coach is currently making. In Texas. Right. Buzz isn't going anywhere.
Not to mention I doubt they'd offer more than whatever it is Rick Barnes is making, what with the state running both schools.
Do we even know that Buzz would want to go back to A&M. His name is naturally brought up, because he was an assistant there and has a lot of ties to Texas. Are people just assuming he wants to go back there?
His kids and wife have been here four years and seem to be happy here. One of the reasons Buzz's name was brought up for Oklahoma job was the fact that his wife was from that area. I feel confident that if Buzz's wife wanted to leave they would of left. After all if mama is unhappy, nobody's happy.
Buzz was also an assistant at Northwestern State (LA). Should we be worried when their job opens up too?
Buzz will not be going there.
1. Oklahoma is a better job closer to his actual hometown. If he didn't bite there, he isn't biting at TAMU. (And just because he was an assistant there doesn't mean that it is where he wants to be.)
2. TAMU is a bad basketball school. No tradition. No real success to speak of. Bad attendance.
3. TAMU cannot afford Buzz. They don't have the money that UT (or even Oklahoma) does. They cannot pay him what MU is paying him plus the buy-out. And as mentioned, they will not pay him more than the football coach.
4. He would look like an enormous hypocrite if left now. Five years from now? Not so much.
I wouldn't worry about it.
(The buyout was high for his previous contract. I don't recall ever hearing the buyout for his new contract, which should be substantially lower. Anyone?)
New article from Dallas. Buzz is mentioned as the dream candidate, but at least the author realizes he isn't going there.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20110510-five-candidates-to-replace-mark-turgeon-at-texas-am.ece
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 10, 2011, 09:17:28 AM
(The buyout was high for his previous contract. I don't recall ever hearing the buyout for his new contract, which should be substantially lower. Anyone?)
I have no idea what the actual buyout number is, but I'd be disappointed if it was any lower. It's common for the buyout to go down as the contract gets older. He just signed this, so it better be high.
Quote from: Litehouse on May 10, 2011, 09:18:14 AM
New article from Dallas. Buzz is mentioned as the dream candidate, but at least the author realizes he isn't going there.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20110510-five-candidates-to-replace-mark-turgeon-at-texas-am.ece
I almost hated to see Buzz' name mentioned in the same list as the others.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 09, 2011, 08:39:56 PM
Could get ugly. Might have to make a move for Phil Jackson.
If not Phil, then Doc!
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 10, 2011, 09:17:28 AM
(The buyout was high for his previous contract. I don't recall ever hearing the buyout for his new contract, which should be substantially lower. Anyone?)
If Buzz was smart, it would be a lot lower but none of those details have come to light.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 10, 2011, 11:29:51 AM
If Buzz was smart, it would be a lot lower but none of those details have come to light.
... and Cottingham was stupid.
Hi all,
I'm a Texas A&M alum who now works and resides in Madison. Needless to say, I'm following my school's new coaching search very closely. I'll be honest, Buzz sounds like a great coach that any school would be very fortunate to have. Looking at the current college basketball landscape, I don't know if I could see a coach making the move from MU to A&M. The Big East is easily the best conference, and Buzz has proven he can get your team to the tournament. That being said, those that call Texas "home" always have the state in the back of our minds....
What do yall know about this tweet:
Quote@richardjustice @TheBigLead Rumor has it Buzz has exemptions in his buyout for certain TX schools, A&M included.
To add to this possibility, consider that A&M is looking at a newly promised $20 mil a year from the latest Big 12 TV contract. I think we can afford to increase salary levels for both our head football and basketball coaches (Mike Sherman deserves the raise IMO, and Turge already made $1.8 mil).
I'm not saying A&M will be able to steal Buzz, but I think MU fans should be a little antsy, just as A&M fans have been with BCG and now Turge.
I'll end by saying I wish you all the best. It's no fun going through a search this time of year, and I regret that our predicament
*could* negatively affect you. Next year I will try to get over to Milwaukee to take in a game! Love the Big East!
So is Chicago the neutral meeting site?
The #2 job in Texas is Oklahoma. A&M would have to considerably alter how they do business to pay Buzz.
WisconsinAggie...
The problem is that the details of Buzz's contract have not been leaked because it is so new, and isn't make available to the public since MU is private. So no one here has the ability to definitively prove or disprove the tweat.
That being said, Buzz doesn't have an agent. So while back-channel negotiations can always take place, it heightens the possibility that everything would be through official channels.
I really doubt Buzz leaves for the simple fact that he just signed his extention on March 30. Simply put, he would be a complete con-man to leave six months later after saying all the things he has said publically about MU and the basketball job in that short a time-frame. And that seems to go against what his public persona has been.
My guess is that it is just too soon for him to leave now. That if this came up (or comes up again) three to five years from now that circumstances could be different.
Oh and Rosiak has tweeted that he would be "shocked" if Buzz leaves for A&M. He certainly knows the players more than any of us do.
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 10, 2011, 11:48:32 AM
So is Chicago the neutral meeting site?
Nah, saw Bo Ryan at Riley's picking up a case of Bud Light. Expect the meeting to be out in Middleton.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
Yeah that Duncan Seawright Memorial Tractor Show is a real draw for basketball coaches.
http://www.meridian-chamber.com/Event_Pages/Area_events.htm
Not too mention, I am sure Buzz will take his coaches to Meridien, so they can commute to College Station, 2 hours each way.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
What a scoop! That coach would have a 2 hour and 45 minute commute to College Station.
Quote from: avid1010 on May 09, 2011, 09:17:37 PM
I understand the Texas connection, but if Turgeon felt the need to leave A&M for Maryland, I'm not sure it says that A&M is that great of a job.
+1
Turgeon is trying to become the third best program in the ACC (they will never be 1 or 2). Is he saying the potential of being #3 in the ACC is better than TAMU? Does that sound like an upgrade after you turned down OK and Ark and have a big contract at MU?
The only way I see Buzz leaving is for what I think is the reason Crean left for IU ... the state of Wisconsin and the pipleine from Chicago heading north were not enough. Crean left so he could develop a pipeline via the Indiana Elite AAU program.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5750525
Wisconsin seems to have nothing like this. So, forget the weather and the desirability of living in Milwaukee. Crean left because the state of WI cannot produce enough high D1 talent for MU (or UW for that fact) to create an automatic pipeline of high D1 recruits.
Need more Jamil Wilsons, JP Tokoto and Vander Blues coming out of WI. IF not, then Buzz might do what Crean did, find a place that is easier to recruit because you can drive 30 minutes to see the recruits and not fly two hours.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
Ah, ok, I'll bite - what does this have to do with A&M?
2 hours from home is a little easier than a 2 day drive or a flight. Texans always regard that state as home. I'm just saying what I witnessed.
Quote from: reinko on May 10, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
Yeah that Duncan Seawright Memorial Tractor Show is a real draw for basketball coaches.
http://www.meridian-chamber.com/Event_Pages/Area_events.htm
Not too mention, I am sure Buzz will take his coaches to Meridien, so they can commute to College Station, 2 hours each way.
Maybe Coach Buzz is putting his assistants up at Meridian Apartments (http://collegerentals.com/Meridian-apartments-College-Station-Texas/) in College Station? 904 sq.ft. for $675 a month!
Quote from: NYWarrior on May 10, 2011, 12:38:38 PM
What a scoop! That coach would have a 2 hour and 45 minute commute to College Station.
Indeed! If he is a student, throw him out for stupidity!
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:55:47 PM
2 hours from home is a little easier than a 2 day drive or a flight. Texans always regard that state as home. I'm just saying what I witnessed.
But Buzz is the only one on the coaching staff who is actually from Texas...so none of the assistant would be moving "home."
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:55:47 PM
2 hours from home is a little easier than a 2 day drive or a flight. Texans always regard that state as home. I'm just saying what I witnessed.
Wait ... are you suggesting that an assistant coach at Texas A&M would live in Merdian and commute more than four hours to work every day?
We're just saying you probably didn't witness what you think you witnessed.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:55:47 PM
2 hours from home is a little easier than a 2 day drive or a flight. Texans always regard that state as home. I'm just saying what I witnessed.
Seeing that this was your first post back during the season. It now explains a lot.
Quote from: bdee29 on March 28, 2011, 12:46:31 AM
I'm personally offended by this thread and other students will be too. As a student that made minimum wage last summer, I spent $100 of my hard earned money on basketball tickets. I sat outside for 5 hours in 15 degree weather before the wisco game. I went to 2/3 ncaa tournament games. I cheered my ass off for this team. That being said, Buzz should feel lucky about how much support he got with the way this year's team underachieved.
Look at the student section in the Syracuse game. major homecourt advantage. Notre Dame game was over break and there was a tremendous turn out. UCONN game was on a tuesday and had a great turnout. the mile walk to the BC isnt made any easier in the dead of wisconsin winter (maybe the alumnus/i that wrote this didnt take that into account on the 5 min walk from their warm mercedes to the arena) Not to mention, our arena is wayyy oversized for our undergrad population.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on May 10, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
Crean left so he could develop a pipeline via the Indiana Elite AAU program.
Seriously....do you really believe what you write sometimes? He left for IU to develop a pipeline with an AAU program that was ALREADY supplying talent to IU for more than 3 decades?
I guess I would rate the fact he makes more money at IU than MU, the state produces way better talent than Wisconsin, his roots are in the Big Ten, the Big Ten conference is much more stable than the Big East long term, Indiana is one of the 5 or 6 greatest programs of all-time, they are THE state school in the state, he went to a Final Four with MU...what else could he accomplish at MU that is likely to happen, etc, etc
Developing a pipeline with an AAU program that already existed going back to Bobby Knight...come on. Yes, it's part of the whole talent pool in the state, but that is hardly the top reason he left for IU.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 10, 2011, 01:07:36 PM
Seriously....do you really believe what you write sometimes? He left for IU to develop a pipeline with an AAU program that was ALREADY supplying talent to IU for more than 3 decades?
I guess I would rate the fact he makes more money at IU than MU, the state produces way better talent than Wisconsin, his roots are in the Big Ten, the Big Ten conference is much more stable than the Big East long term, Indiana is one of the 5 or 6 greatest programs of all-time, they are THE state school in the state, he went to a Final Four with MU...what else could he accomplish at MU that is likely to happen, etc, etc
Developing a pipeline with an AAU program that already existed going back to Bobby Knight...come on. Yes, it's part of the whole talent pool in the state, but that is hardly the top reason he left for IU.
Just because your flare was lit doesn't mean you have to come in and start the fire.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:55:47 PM
2 hours from home is a little easier than a 2 day drive or a flight. Texans always regard that state as home. I'm just saying what I witnessed.
I guess you have never been to Texas, or if you have, you were not paying attention.
Buzz is from Greenville Texas. Meridian Texas is 152 miles away and you would have to drive right through the middle of Dallas to get their. 3 or 4 hours.
College Station is 231 miles from Greenville.
Norman Oklahoma is 204 miles.
This is like someone moving to Milwaukee to be close to Wauasau (188 miles). Closer but your not really home.
Quote from: NYWarrior on May 10, 2011, 12:38:38 PM
What a scoop! That coach would have a 2 hour and 45 minute commute to College Station.
Not only is Buzz leaving, but he's hiring Tall Titan for his staff down there?
How about we give some props where it is due....to MU Administration for locking up Buzz Williams, early, after the season ended? That is why I have no fear of Buzz leaving for Texas A&M. Those that felt the new contract was premature hopefully feel much better about it today. I would have to think that the sheer amount of the financial commitment by MU would come with a financial handcuff that would make it tough for a school like A&M to get Buzz. Also, unless Buzz is a total d-bag, unethical hypocrite, he would not go at this point. If he is truly humbled that MU not only gave him a shot by hiring him but then stepped up and put him into another economic stratosphere....leaving several weeks after such statements and signing a new deal would move him from genuine, authentic caring character to never trust again snake oil salesman...which eventually does have impact on your reputation and trying to sell yourself to recruits.
Also, how about some dump on the other Williams that started this all by resigning at a point in time that not only puts his program in peril the next few years but starts a chain reaction of negative impact on several other programs (such as the one not named Marquette that will lose their head coach to Texas A&M when spring signing period is wrapping up...and so on down the line). Nice world this college athletics has become...
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
Just curious - did you also see Gerald Boyle on campus and/or any 6'3" basketball recruits lately?
I wouldn't be surprised if you saw something like that.
Quote from: drewm88 on May 10, 2011, 01:42:17 PM
Not only is Buzz leaving, but he's hiring Tall Titan for his staff down there?
Boom. Roasted.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
This guy has a whopping 3 posts but nevertheless, would TAMU offer Benford or Collins the job?
Quote from: radome on May 10, 2011, 02:04:32 PM
This guy has a whopping 3 posts but nevertheless, would TAMU offer Benford or Collins the job?
I would be pumped for either coach if that were the case!
Texas A&M is evil and must be destroyed
Surely a man of faith would not go to such a place!
The latest from our A&M guru:
QuoteRT @billyliucci: Things seem to be moving very quickly on the A&M coaching front ... Buzz Williams the target.
We're hearing there is actually a good chance at this (interest from Buzz) if we can come close to the 2.5-3 mil he is guaranteed now.
Still think this may be a "pipe dream" hire.
Another Update:Quotebillyliucci: We'll know quickly if Buzz is considered 'attainable' by TAMU. If so, he emerges as your No. 1. If not, another name immediately surfaces
Quote from: WisconsinAggie on May 10, 2011, 02:26:18 PM
The latest from our A&M guru:
We're hearing there is actually a good chance at this (interest from Buzz) if we can come close to the 2.5-3 mil he is guaranteed now.
Still think this may be a "pipe dream" hire.
Another Update:
Whichever it turns out to be, I think we can all agree that the faster we pull this band-aid off the better!
Quote from: WisconsinAggie on May 10, 2011, 02:26:18 PM
The latest from our A&M guru:
We're hearing there is actually a good chance at this (interest from Buzz) if we can come close to the 2.5-3 mil he is guaranteed now.
Is it me or is this exact same line from reporters in Oklahoma when OU had the vacancy?
Quote from: murobrob on May 10, 2011, 01:43:50 PM
I would have to think that the sheer amount of the financial commitment by MU would come with a financial handcuff that would make it tough for a school like A&M to get Buzz.
Does anyone know whether the buyout number was increased in the contract renewal?
One thing that we should all have learned from the annual coaching carousel is that the length of the contract is far less important than the size of the buyout.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
Hilarious. Son, around here you might want to use teal. Otherwise people might take you seriously.
Quote from: The Lens on May 10, 2011, 12:02:08 PM
The #2 job in Texas is Oklahoma. A&M would have to considerably alter how they do business to pay Buzz.
This is absolutely right.
Radiotalkshowguy in KC (the heart of Big 12 country, even the Texas part) cracked wise that basketball is the No. 3 sport at Texas A&M. Football is No. 1, and Spring Football is No. 2, he said.
Buzz might go home, but if he does, it will be more about going home than anything else.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
Is it finals week? I remember being addle-brained during finals week. Actually, I don't. What they say is true: If you remember the '60s, you weren't there. I was there. I think.
SI's Luke Winn tweets:
To get Buzz, A&M would have to pay mid-$2MM buyout, plus beat his 7yr, $2MM+ per rollover deal. Can't see it happening.
He later said Buzz has no "out" clauses for particular schools.
Quote from: WisconsinAggie on May 10, 2011, 02:26:18 PM
We're hearing there is actually a good chance at this (interest from Buzz) if we can come close to the 2.5-3 mil he is guaranteed now.
You are going to have to excuse us, but we heard just two months ago that Buzz was heading to Oklahoma for sure...only to have it turn out that he never really considered them.
So let me just say that I have my doubts.
Yup, it's now sounding like Buzz is simply out of A&M's price range. Good luck next season, MU! Like I said, I'd like to come over from Madison and check out a game sometime. Wish us luck on getting the "right guy" at A&M.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
"People are talking about it on campus, but it's hard to determine what's true and what's false,"
This appears to be your take on every situation related to MU basketball...
http://www.wisn.com/news/27363410/detail.html#ixzz1LzKweRHO
Hi guys. I was reading this board to determine the feeling at Marquette. You all represent your university well. I would like to let you know that you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Buzz is absolutely too expensive for Texas A&M and has been all along. In all seriousness, this interest was sensationalized as a smoke screen and as leverage in negotiating with a second candidate whom I cannot name at this time.
If any of your friends, or my fellow Aggies, are dumb enough to bet you. Bet a large amount on Buzz staying at Marquette. Even with the difference in taxes and cost of living, the salary would be too large for William Byrne.
In addition, the person who was overheard speaking about Meridian, Tx (if the account is accurate) is most certainly not headed to College Station. Meridian is closer to Waco, home of the Baylor Bears and is a 3 hour drive from Texas A&M University.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
I am pretty sure this is unrelated to the A&M angle, if true. You sure it wasn't Midland?
Love Texas A&M University and everything the school is about. Have friends who went there and you guys are a class act.
Good luck in the future search and go screw Alabama again and buy Nick Saban once you fire Sherman...that'd be my dream for you guys.
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
Hi guys. I was reading this board to determine the feeling at Marquette. You all represent your university well. I would like to let you know that you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Buzz is absolutely too expensive for Texas A&M and has been all along. In all seriousness, this interest was sensationalized as a smoke screen and as leverage in negotiating with a second candidate whom I cannot name at this time.
If any of your friends, or my fellow Aggies, are dumb enough to bet you. Bet a large amount on Buzz staying at Marquette. Even with the difference in taxes and cost of living, the salary would be too large for William Byrne.
In addition, the person who was overheard speaking about Meridian, Tx (if the account is accurate) is most certainly not headed to College Station. Meridian is closer to Waco, home of the Baylor Bears and is a 3 hour drive from Texas A&M University.
Thanks Tony. Good luck on your search. It's a good job and worth Buzz looking at, and maybe he will go there. But Buzz does seem to like MU and like you suggest he is paid very, very well relative to his peers and his accomplishments.
didn't bother to read all 4 pages so apologize in advance if this has already been said;
I sincerely doubt Buzz going anywhere w/ his almost 2mm annual, and in the middle of building a basketball court/gym addition onto his house.
^FWIW Midland is even further away from TAMU...and just about everything else on Earth.
Sherman is not in danger of being fired. He's looking to field a top 10 team this year.
Quote from: bdee29 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
I am a Marquette student. I was in the bank at the AMU this morning when I overheard an assistant basketball coach (who i'll keep unnamed for speculation's sake) talking very loudly and excitedly on the phone about moving to Meridian, Texas. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I wouldn't be surprised to see something happen in the not too distant future.
OK, then, the program is going down the tubes.
Quote from: foreverwarriors on May 10, 2011, 04:44:11 PM
"People are talking about it on campus, but it's hard to determine what's true and what's false,"
This appears to be your take on every situation related to MU basketball...
http://www.wisn.com/news/27363410/detail.html#ixzz1LzKweRHO
Well done!
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
^FWIW Midland is even further away from TAMU...and just about everything else on Earth.
Yes, but there is a job that just opened there for someone who may want to get back for family reasons. That person also had a job close to Meridian as well at one time. Maybe that person will end up in Lubbock. Just asking....but it isn't related to the TAMU opening.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 10, 2011, 03:54:57 PM
You are going to have to excuse us, but we heard just two months ago that Buzz was heading to Oklahoma for sure...only to have it turn out that he never really considered them.
So let me just say that I have my doubts.
I have sincere doubts, but I also don't recall anyone ever saying Buzz was for sure going to Oklahoma.
Brent Zwerneman twitter:
"A&M's next basketball coach will not be Buzz Williams, verified. He's making too much at Marquette. Search continues."
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
Hi guys. I was reading this board to determine the feeling at Marquette. You all represent your university well. I would like to let you know that you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Buzz is absolutely too expensive for Texas A&M and has been all along. In all seriousness, this interest was sensationalized as a smoke screen and as leverage in negotiating with a second candidate whom I cannot name at this time.
If any of your friends, or my fellow Aggies, are dumb enough to bet you. Bet a large amount on Buzz staying at Marquette. Even with the difference in taxes and cost of living, the salary would be too large for William Byrne.
In addition, the person who was overheard speaking about Meridian, Tx (if the account is accurate) is most certainly not headed to College Station. Meridian is closer to Waco, home of the Baylor Bears and is a 3 hour drive from Texas A&M University.
If you are this Tony Love, you lack room to tatoo Buzz Williams name on your back. lol
Midland is 2 hours from Lubbock.
As I said earlier, Williams has an incredible deal at Marquette. I'm happy for the man, as he parlayed a Sweet Sixteen run, interest from other programs (including Oklahoma and Tennessee) and the fact that Marquette was desperate not to lose a beloved coach twice in a matter of four years into an AMAZING contract. Not only is he making $2.5M per that escalates to $3M relatively quickly, there's also a $2.6M buyout and deferred payments towards the end of the deal. At one point, he will be making close to $4M annually. No one is hiring him away from Marquette unless he's willing to take a giant pay cut or unless the Warriors simply want to make a change, at which point they'll have to pay a very hefty sum.
What happened today is that the Aggies inquired, Williams reciprocated interest and the price tag was simply in another stratosphere. I would have liked the hire a lot but, for that money, A&M would have HAD to pursue other options that would qualify as monster, big-name hires.
This is one way to secure your coach! Since clearly contract length and buyouts mean nothing in college athletics, you can pay the heck out of your coach, and the programs that are just trying can't compete. Only the bigtime established programs have the want to pay a coach that highly. A&M can afford it, but it doesn't work with our philosophy.
I'm a Buzz fan, and can't wait to see Marquette tear it up next year.
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2011, 07:20:33 PM
Midland is 2 hours from Lubbock.
As I said earlier, Williams has an incredible deal at Marquette. I'm happy for the man, as he parlayed a Sweet Sixteen run, interest from other programs (including Oklahoma and Tennessee) and the fact that Marquette was desperate not to lose a beloved coach twice in a matter of four years into an AMAZING contract. Not only is he making $2.5M per that escalates to $3M relatively quickly, there's also a $2.6M buyout and deferred payments towards the end of the deal. At one point, he will be making close to $4M annually. No one is hiring him away from Marquette unless he's willing to take a giant pay cut or unless the Warriors simply want to make a change, at which point they'll have to pay a very hefty sum.
What happened today is that the Aggies inquired, Williams reciprocated interest and the price tag was simply in another stratosphere. I would have liked the hire a lot but, for that money, A&M would have HAD to pursue other options that would qualify as monster, big-name hires.
This is one way to secure your coach! Since clearly contract length and buyouts mean nothing in college athletics, you can pay the heck out of your coach, and the programs that are just trying can't compete. Only the bigtime established programs have the want to pay a coach that highly. A&M can afford it, but it doesn't work with our philosophy.
I'm a Buzz fan, and can't wait to see Marquette tear it up next year.
+1
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2011, 07:20:33 PM
Midland is 2 hours from Lubbock.
Tony...I am not talking about Buzz per the "student's scoop"...but the assistant who wants to get back to Taxas. Has nothing to do with A&M or Buzz. EOS.
Let's see what is announced after the close of the signing period.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 10, 2011, 09:59:41 PM
Tony...I am not talking about Buzz per the "student's scoop"...but the assistant who wants to get back to Taxas. Has nothing to do with A&M or Buzz. EOS.
Let's see what is announced after the close of the signing period.
Maybe he'll pass the (mon)-Arch in St. Louis on his way.
QuoteTony...I am not talking about Buzz per the "student's scoop"...but the assistant who wants to get back to Taxas. Has nothing to do with A&M or Buzz. EOS.
I understand. I guess my point is that whoever is going to Meridian or Midland (or any other town that starts with M) is likely going there to coach high school basketball or pursue a different career altogether.
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2011, 07:20:33 PM
What happened today is that the Aggies inquired, Williams reciprocated interest and the price tag was simply in another stratosphere.
If true, as MU fans we ought to send Gary Williams a nice retirement card thanking him for making the decision in May instead of March.