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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Skatastrophy on May 05, 2011, 09:06:21 AM

Title: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 05, 2011, 09:06:21 AM
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/2011-05-04/rules-committee-recommends-changehttp://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/2011-05-04/rules-committee-recommends-change

Restricted arc underneath the basket.  A separation between Flagrant 1 and Flagrant 2 fouls, complicating the rules of offsetting fouls.  Coach's requesting reviews.

The biggest change that will affect MU is surrounding returning the court after a timeout:

QuoteIn another matter, the committee agreed that if a team is late returning to the court for play after a timeout, officials will formally warn the team. Any subsequent time that the team is late taking the court for play, the official will whistle for play regardless if the team that has received a formal warning is ready. No technical fouls will be assessed in these situations.
Title: Re: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 05, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
It's stupid they don't have the arc beneath the basket already.  GET THIS DONE!

There's no reason a guy who has driven all the way to the basket should be punished with a charge so close to the hoop.
Title: Re: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: SaveOD238 on May 05, 2011, 09:08:56 AM
Flagrant 1 and Flagrant 2s are already separated in college, but the NCAA currently calls them intentional fouls and flagrant fouls.  The change to Flagrant 1 and 2 would just be to align with the NBA.
Title: Coming This November: The Charge-Arc
Post by: Benny B on May 05, 2011, 12:05:21 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-ncaa-basketballruleschanges

Notables:

"The NCAA men's and women's basketball rules committees said Wednesday they are recommending the use of a restricted area arc three feet from the basket and changing the terminology of intentional and flagrant fouls...

The changes must still be approved by the playing rules oversight panel, perhaps as early as next month, before taking effect next season...

If approved, the arc would be placed three from the basket and would specify where a secondary defender would have to stand to take a charge...

[The bio-engineered offspring of Bo Ryan and the guy who played the brother on Everybody Loves Raymond] said the committee vote to add the restricted arc area, something the men have experimented with in past seasons, was unanimous.
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Does anyone else think that MU averaged at least one waved-off layup per game because of a charge under the hoop?  At the very least, I would have to say that MU had more layups waved off than charges they took under the basket last year.

In any event, the charge arc should be beneficial to MU next year IMO.

Title: Re: Coming This November: The Charge-Arc
Post by: gjreda on May 05, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
Also known as the Duke arc.
Title: Re: Coming This November: The Charge-Arc
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 05, 2011, 12:54:36 PM
nm
Title: Re: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 05, 2011, 12:57:36 PM
Bo might just retire now...
Title: Re: Coming This November: The Charge-Arc
Post by: bilsu on May 05, 2011, 01:23:21 PM
The change I would like to see them make is to have a charge be treated only as a turnover and not a personal foul. Sometimes a judgement call has a hugh impact on a game. There is a hugh diffenerce between a player scoring and being given a free throw vs having the basket being taken away and then be given his third or fourth foul on top of losing the basket. While the arc will make the call clearer, it is one more thing for the refs to try to keep track of. I can see the instant replays now on whether the defender's foot was on the arc line.
Title: Re: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: jficke13 on May 06, 2011, 06:54:13 AM
i hate the no charge zone... it makes it illegal to play defense. get ready for 'good defense' to be just ole
Title: Re: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: GGGG on May 06, 2011, 07:23:21 AM
It doesn't make it illegal to play defense. It objectifies what is a difficult judgement call. It has helped in the nba quite a bit.
Title: Re: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: MUMac on May 06, 2011, 08:17:30 AM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on May 06, 2011, 06:54:13 AM
i hate the no charge zone... it makes it illegal to play defense. get ready for 'good defense' to be just ole

Actually, the rule has been in place for the past few years.  The problem was it was left up to interpretation by each official.  I like the change they have made.  In the past few years, fans would scream when a blocking foul was called and the player had position.  That is because of the rule that is currently in place.  This line will clear it up for the players/coaches/fans and clean up the inconsistencies between officials.
Title: Re: NCAA proposed changes, including restricted arc
Post by: MarquetteDano on May 06, 2011, 10:30:40 AM
So I guess with this new rule this will not be a foul anymore....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0upQDkY-pg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0upQDkY-pg)

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