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Title: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: foreverwarriors on April 23, 2011, 01:21:32 AM
I'm not an espn insider but for some reason ESPN Scorecenter populated an insider blog from Dave Telep. To paraphrase the part that would be interesting to MU fans:
-Kris had a great weekend tourney last weekend for Connecticut Basketball Club at the Real Deal In The Rock.
-his recruitment is about to take off.
-AAU teammate of Andre Drummond who says Kris is Robin to his Batman.
-He's already been offered by Providence and every A10 school but Xavier
-Telep supposedly asked him straight up where he wanted to go and he said he wants to go to Marquette

6'3" pg from New London, CT. He's rated as a 91 by espn...which is good for 98th overall and 10th best pg. Unrated and unranked by scout and rivals.

Edit: uconn just offered him today. Going back and reading tweets from recruiting analysts last weekend, it seems that Dunn even upstaged Drummond last weekend...
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 23, 2011, 01:24:35 AM
If Marshon returned, Providence could have had a Brooks and Dunn.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: MUfan12 on April 23, 2011, 01:24:56 AM
Dude is blowing up. MU being on him early could pay some big time dividends. It'd be nice to have a guy to come off the bench his first year with Cadougan a senior that year.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on April 23, 2011, 05:19:12 AM
He should bring Drummond along as a package deal.

Also, found a nice interview with him. I like the sound of his work ethic and his commitment to defense:

http://www.connecticutbasketballclub.org/2011/02/02/kris-dunn-qa-with-slam-magazine/
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 23, 2011, 11:47:58 AM
BOYS BASKETBALL ALL-STATE MVP: Kris Dunn, New London
http://www.newhavenregister.com/articles/2011/04/17/sports/high_school/doc4dab533461b0d756371457.txt

He was just named Connecticut All-State MVP.  New London won the 2011 state HS championship in hoops. 

This article said he was considering Providence, Rhode Island, UMass & Boston College.

His fellow teammate, another all-state and a Sr. is unsigned at the moment and it says he's considering George Mason & Rhode Island.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Wade for President on July 25, 2011, 03:54:06 PM
Where do we stand with Dunn?  Evan Daniels from Scout was just tweeting about him and how his play has blown up.

Is he Buzz's top priority now?
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: mr.MUskie on July 25, 2011, 05:10:47 PM
Is he a one and dunn?
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on July 25, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
Personally, I always thought he should be our top guard priority for 2012, even more so than York, but all the reports after York went to Arizona were that Dunn was our top target at the guard position. However his rising profile has UConn and Villanova both edging in, so I'm not sure where we stand. Providence has also been recruiting him hard, but I'm not sure how serious he is with them. He expressed an interest in MU some months back, but that was before his stock went up.

As far as one and done, I'd doubt it, but these days, who knows? If Jarion Henry's truly a one-and-done, I guess anyone could be.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on July 25, 2011, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on July 25, 2011, 05:10:47 PM
Is he a one and dunn?


nice.   ;D

And right over brew's head.... :-* :P
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on July 27, 2011, 09:13:58 PM
Quote from: ZiggysF*ckinFryBoy on July 25, 2011, 05:43:21 PM
nice.   ;D

And right over brew's head.... :-* :P

I got the pun :P ;D but considering he's being touted as the second best PG by some scouts and seems like he may be headed for a top-10 in the country ranking once the new rankings come out, Dunn may indeed be one-and-done ;)
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: GGGG on July 27, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
Is Duane Wilson still a possibility for MU at this point?  I know that Koenig is the higher rated target, but I don't think he is going to consider us seriously...
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on July 27, 2011, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on July 27, 2011, 09:28:21 PMIs Duane Wilson still a possibility for MU at this point?  I know that Koenig is the higher rated target, but I don't think he is going to consider us seriously...

We've offered Wilson, but he has a list longer than an aerial ladder. Koenig is definitely garnering significant attention, he picked up an offer from Duke today and is being heavily pursued by UNC and Wisconsin, with Virginia seemingly entering the picture and Kansas exiting it after getting a commit from 2013 PG Conner Frankamp.

Personally, my hope is still for Kris Dunn in 2012. He's the elite-level point guard we need to take over from Junior.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: marquettewade3 on July 28, 2011, 07:46:18 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 23, 2011, 01:24:35 AM
If Marshon returned, Providence could have had a Brooks and Dunn.

Well played.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 30, 2011, 09:30:33 PM
Word is Kentucky is showing interest.

Recent video of Dunn and Drummond doing it well for CBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od4WqlRC_T0

Any chance Dunn and Drummond would be a package? Drummond would be an instant starter and Dunn would press for PG/SG minutes.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on July 30, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 30, 2011, 09:30:33 PMWord is Kentucky is showing interest.

Recent video of Dunn and Drummond doing it well for CBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od4WqlRC_T0

Any chance Dunn and Drummond would be a package? Drummond would be an instant starter and Dunn would press for PG/SG minutes.

I've heard Dunn and Drummond as a possible package, but from the sounds of things now, Drummond will be skipping school and going straight to the NBA. He is a year older than the rest of his class, so when he graduates high school, he'll be eligible for the draft immediately. With the Dwight Howard comparisons he's been drawing, it's probably not a bad idea for him.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: whodem on July 30, 2011, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 30, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
I've heard Dunn and Drummond as a possible package, but from the sounds of things now, Drummond will be skipping school and going straight to the NBA. He is a year older than the rest of his class, so when he graduates high school, he'll be eligible for the draft immediately. With the Dwight Howard comparisons he's been drawing, it's probably not a bad idea for him.

Really? Where did you hear that? I thought Drummond was basically a UConn lock.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 30, 2011, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 30, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
I've heard Dunn and Drummond as a possible package, but from the sounds of things now, Drummond will be skipping school and going straight to the NBA. He is a year older than the rest of his class, so when he graduates high school, he'll be eligible for the draft immediately. With the Dwight Howard comparisons he's been drawing, it's probably not a bad idea for him.

Does the current NBA CBA allow that? If so, huh...didn't know it!
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Jay Bee on July 31, 2011, 12:08:08 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 30, 2011, 10:40:35 PM
Does the current NBA CBA allow that? If so, huh...didn't know it!

No, it does not.  Brewcity77 is talking nonsense.  There is the age requirement, but there is also a requirement of being one-year removed from high school.  Drummond would be need to meet both of those requirements.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Marqus Howard on July 31, 2011, 12:15:03 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 31, 2011, 12:08:08 AM
No, it does not.  Brewcity77 is talking nonsense.  There is the age requirement, but there is also a requirement of being one-year removed from high school.  Drummond would be need to meet both of those requirements.

True, but there is a loophole in that rule.

To support Brewcity's claim:
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/30807041

http://www.kentuckywildcats.us/andre-drummond-skipping-college/
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on July 31, 2011, 06:45:49 AM
Quote from: TrueBlueAndGold on July 31, 2011, 12:15:03 AMTrue, but there is a loophole in that rule.

To support Brewcity's claim:
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/30807041

http://www.kentuckywildcats.us/andre-drummond-skipping-college/

Thanks, True. It's absolutely possible that Drummond could go straight to the NBA. Before you start accusing me of talking nonsense, Jay Bee, you might want to research the topic ;) Here's the original article from Adam Zagoria:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/06/21/andre-drummond-to-the-2012-nba-draft/
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Jay Bee on July 31, 2011, 09:30:23 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 31, 2011, 06:45:49 AM
Thanks, True. It's absolutely possible that Drummond could go straight to the NBA. Before you start accusing me of talking nonsense, Jay Bee, you might want to research the topic ;) Here's the original article from Adam Zagoria:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/06/21/andre-drummond-to-the-2012-nba-draft/

I've done the research and disagree with the various commentary that has been out there (from Zagoria and many, many others).  It requires an interpretation of the current CBA language and I believe the conclusion that would be made by the NBA is that if Drummond went to another year of prep school school, his circumstance would not be in agreement with the spirit of 'graduation' from high school in 2011 (although his high school will tell you he recently 'graduated').  

Tell me, what would be the reason he would go back for another year of high school if he has already graduated?  He thinks the CBA will change for kids entering college in 2011?  No way.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on July 31, 2011, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 31, 2011, 09:30:23 AMI've done the research and disagree with the various commentary that has been out there (from Zagoria and many, many others).  It requires an interpretation of the current CBA language and I believe the conclusion that would be made by the NBA is that if Drummond went to another year of prep school school, his circumstance would not be in agreement with the spirit of 'graduation' from high school in 2011 (although his high school will tell you he recently 'graduated').  

Tell me, what would be the reason he would go back for another year of high school if he has already graduated?  He thinks the CBA will change for kids entering college in 2011?  No way.

Right now, the experts seem to agree that he will be eligible for the draft. So much so that most coaches aren't attending his games (see the CBS article above). The people who analyze this professionally expect him to declare, the coaches expect him to declare, at the very least that is a pretty damn good indicator that I'm not "talking nonsense".
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: bilsu on July 31, 2011, 11:10:31 AM
Until the current contract is negotiated, we do not know what the rule is.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Jay Bee on July 31, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 31, 2011, 10:37:30 AM
Right now, the experts seem to agree that he will be eligible for the draft. So much so that most coaches aren't attending his games (see the CBS article above). The people who analyze this professionally expect him to declare, the coaches expect him to declare, at the very least that is a pretty damn good indicator that I'm not "talking nonsense".

No - the NBA analyzes this professionally.  You are talking NUTSO!!!!!!!!!  "He is a year older than the rest of his class, so when he graduates high school, he'll be eligible for the draft immediately" is precisely what you said.  Do you want to stand by that, or do you want to backtrack?  Read it again.  N U T S O.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 31, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: bilsu on July 31, 2011, 11:10:31 AM
Until the current contract is negotiated, we do not know what the rule is.

Shoot, he may be playing with Kobe in Turkey next year!
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: brewcity77 on July 31, 2011, 12:00:21 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 31, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
No - the NBA analyzes this professionally.  You are talking NUTSO!!!!!!!!!  "He is a year older than the rest of his class, so when he graduates high school, he'll be eligible for the draft immediately" is precisely what you said.  Do you want to stand by that, or do you want to backtrack?  Read it again.  N U T S O.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were the NBA's sole expert on CBA negotiations and that people who study this stuff professionally clearly don't know as much as you do.

...and you say I'm nutso?
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: ringout on July 31, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
I kinda thought JayBee was channeling Chicos.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: 🏀 on July 31, 2011, 02:56:51 PM
Quote from: ringout on July 31, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
I kinda thought JayBee was channeling Chicos.

I caught JayBee staring a picture of Chicos not too long ago. Hasn't been the same since.

(http://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/15/rayandvigo.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: GGGG on June 25, 2012, 10:27:05 AM
Kris Dunn has injured his shoulder and may miss the entire season for Providence.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Nukem2 on June 25, 2012, 10:42:13 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 25, 2012, 10:27:05 AM
Kris Dunn has injured his shoulder and may miss the entire season for Providence.
Thats a truly tough break for this young guy.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 25, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 25, 2012, 10:27:05 AM
Kris Dunn has injured his shoulder and may miss the entire season for Providence.

He was already trying to carry the entire Providence program on his shoulders.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 25, 2012, 11:21:46 AM
Hey, too bad Kris Dunn didn't get to play with Kendrick Nunn. 

...wait for it...

They would be Nunn and Dunn.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on June 25, 2012, 01:12:12 PM
If Dunn has surgery, and Ledo doesn't qualify, PU will be hurting. Coleman and his 13+ per game just signed on with the Zags as a transfer out as well. They will be awfully short on depth in the back court.

http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/pc-friars-update-cooley-its-all-good/
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 25, 2012, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on June 25, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
He was already trying to carry the entire Providence program on his shoulders.

If he had committed to MU this never would have happened.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: The Equalizer on March 14, 2015, 01:54:39 PM
Thought this thread from 2012 might be interesting given the attention on Dunn today.

Not sure why Buzz didn't just take Dunn in April 2011. Its not like his principles were such that he'd have a hard time dumping Dunn for York down the road.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: Jay Bee on March 14, 2015, 01:59:05 PM
...Drummond wound up attending college for a year. Shocking.
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: GGGG on March 14, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
Buzz really didn't do a good job of effectively evaluating point guards.

Dunn, Ullis...
Title: Re: 2012 recruit Kris Dunn
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 14, 2015, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 14, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
Buzz really didn't do a good job of effectively evaluating point guards.

Dunn, Ullis...

Jeremy Lamb...
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