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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: dw3dw3dw3 on April 15, 2011, 08:19:00 AM
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This would be a good catch...
Gabe York planning visits‎
Cougfan.com (subscription) - Josh Gershon - 12 hours ago
We're going to see Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame and Oklahoma. So far I've only taken visits to UCLA, USC and I'm going to go to Washington too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Bo13jyWpo&feature=fvwrel
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Wow, that kid is a freak...it's like watching old highlights of James but with some height.
Question, how many paid visits do prospects get? 4 right? How do these guys afford to fly all over the country and visit schools?
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If Buzz can land him...wow. Would be a good catch with the potential of it becoming a GREAT catch.
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Gotta love how Oklahoma is involved on this one. Go get him Buzz!
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Looks like a punk...but what to I know.
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It's just a highlight reel, but man this dude looks like a stud. His game reminded me of Austin Rivers. I hope we can impress him. I did read in an article that he is wanting to decide by the end of his jr year.
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Looks like a punk...but what to I know.
Good, I like guys with a chip on their shoulder....especially the point guard.
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Real quick release on a couple of those catch-and-shoots.
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Wow, that kid is a freak...it's like watching old highlights of James but with some height.
Question, how many paid visits do prospects get? 4 right? How do these guys afford to fly all over the country and visit schools?
I thought it was 4 also....guessing USC and UCLA were unofficial visits since he lives in the area.
He's ranked #41 by Rivals for 2012....right behind some guy named Tokoto.
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wow
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I want him!
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If Gabe York were to sign, does he come directly into competition with Todd Mayo? Could the both see the floor at the same time? I guess I just don't know enough about their games and styles.
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We could start a California pipeline here. So far, no Texas, Wisconsin, or Chicago kids in 2011 or 2012.
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Preferably forest green but lime green is fine too.
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Everywhere I've looked, York is listed as a shooting guard, and his mix tape doesn't indicate anything other than that. Could he play the point? It seems like our biggest need in 2011/12 is getting another big and a point. While York looks like a very good player, I'm not sure he fits our needs for that scholarship.
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Gabe attends OLU.
My first cousin is current head of math dept., and STEM program at OLU and is their former (1990-?) varsity BB coach. His older brother was a stud BB player at OLU in the 80s.
My cuz grew up in Calif., and has had nothing to do with MU, ever.
Can I contact him on Gabe York, to talk up our school, and ask him to do the same?....I need some help from rulzgal here, please.
I wont make a move until advised.
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I am thinking please make no moves. Buzz, Aki, vander, DJO etc can talk up program.
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I am thinking please make no moves. Buzz, Aki, vander, DJO etc can talk up program.
I am thinking the same and wont make any contact, of ANY kind.
I was just kind of curious if such would be considered, a violative booster contact--when cuz is not a booster, but just related to me.
Besides, My cuz is a nice guy, but to a baller like Gabe, he's probably as interesting as 3rd period latin. lol
FYI, the recently retired superintendent of OLU, Ken Elwein, was the head BB coach at Milw. Lutheran HS, for many years. During his time in Calif., OLU built up super facilities, and strong programs (plays Mater Dei, every year)....so Gabe's academics are unlikely to be any issue.
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Reading this thread reminds me of this great radio moment....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGpfCxaz6c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGpfCxaz6c)
LeBatard is a goddamned moron, and yes, this is a great clip.
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We could start a California pipeline here. So far, no Texas, Wisconsin, or Chicago kids in 2011 or 2012.
I'd love it. Virginia, New England, Texas and then California added to the ability to get Chicago again in the future. No offense on Wisconsin, but they have had only one Rivals 5-star since we joined the Big East (7 years) and we landed him (Vander Blue), so I can't say dominated Wisconsin recruiting is key to our future, though I am very happy Buycks came back home for his final two years.
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Reading this thread reminds me of this great radio moment....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGpfCxaz6c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGpfCxaz6c)
I have never heard that clip before. I like Jay Bilas even more after that.
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Cleaned up the trash. Please try to keep the thread on topic.
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I have never heard that clip before. I like Jay Bilas even more after that.
I have always liked Jay Bilas. His knowledge of bball, his manner of delivery, the way he speaks etc. this clip is just brilliant. I loved it and, like you, makes me respect him even more.
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Gabe attends OLU.
My first cousin is current head of math dept., and STEM program at OLU and is their former (1990-?) varsity BB coach. His older brother was a stud BB player at OLU in the 80s.
My cuz grew up in Calif., and has had nothing to do with MU, ever.
Can I contact him on Gabe York, to talk up our school, and ask him to do the same?....I need some help from rulzgal here, please.
I wont make a move until advised.
I'm not Rulzgal...but read my signature (courtesy of one Rulzgal's posts).
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Kid reminds me of d. James but with an ultra smooth jumper. Lay out the red carpet. He would be a great get for MU. Buzz is definitely on the right track with the potential he has visiting. Let's close em out buzz.
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I'm not Rulzgal...but read my signature (courtesy of one Rulzgal's posts).
I'm not rulzgal either...but your signature answers no part of my question. All agree that Gabe is a prospect, thank you.
Read my subsequent post, to the one you quote, on 1) my plan of not doing a thing; and 2) my still lingering question.
BTW, I can read your post without shouted bold typeface.
I am more than a little aware of contact rules, as K Bradley and E Williams recruited out of the high school my girls attended, and Jimmy Butler played our school. My wife and I learned not to make even eye contact to any of these kids, or their families. lol.
My current question has to do with how contact rules deal with my cuz, not a booster, at OLU.
As you do not know the answer to this---I will await rulzgal....thanks for your effort, though.
We--Rulzgal, you, and I looked at this in July--but my cuz at Olu situation wasnt spoken to--see thread:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=20985.msg222730#msg222730
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New article on York.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6430255
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Wow, that kid is a freak...it's like watching old highlights of James but with some height.
Question, how many paid visits do prospects get? 4 right? How do these guys afford to fly all over the country and visit schools?
These are all unofficial visits, so he and his family are paying. Official visits can't be taken until the student starts taking classes in his senior year. When official visits can be taken next fall, he can take up to 5.
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New article on York.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6430255
Looks like MU is poised to make a great run at him.
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Sounds like York cancelled his visits, came down with mono. He didn't make the trip to ND today.
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Sounds like York cancelled his visits, came down with mono. He didn't make the trip to ND today.
Probably for the best...I'd rather get mono than go to Notre Dame.
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New article on York.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6430255
From the article
Buzz Williams and Marquette must have sensed that early because the Golden Eagles are well positioned to make a run at him. York said Williams has done the best job with him so far.
"He's been really cool with me. Sometimes when I'm talking to coaches I can tell they're reading it off a sheet of paper instead of just talking to me," York said. "I think [Williams] and [Washington coach] Lorenzo Romar are the two that really stood out."
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Who is he talking about?
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So is this the PG we are targetting in 2012? He plays SG now, but looks like he is making the position switch. This would be the second straight year we look at a combo guard versus a true point.
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So is this the PG we are targetting in 2012? He plays SG now, but looks like he is making the position switch. This would be the second straight year we look at a combo guard versus a true point.
Thats a pretty interesting point to pick up on, Sultan. Junior is obviously a "true" point - but he still can create/shield his own shot with his body while attacking the hoop - and i love his ability to recognize when he can beast a smaller guard. Sometimes its harder for him to get there b/c his defender can sag off him since "Junior can't shoot" (Buzz Quote).
Personally, I think having a PG that a team has to at least respect his jump shot can really open things up for other guys; I like a PG that can score.
But who's to say one (or both) of these combo guards don't turn into "true" PGs?
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Probably for the best...I'd rather get mono than go to Notre Dame.
+1
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Sometimes its harder for him to get there b/c his defender can sag off him since "Junior can't shoot" (Buzz Quote).Personally, I think having a PG that a team has to at least respect his jump shot can really open things up for other guys; I like a PG that can score.
Both points you make are great - and I agree...a PG like Jordan Taylor or any other who can shoot it makes the game easier for the rest of his team (so long as he isn't a ball-hogging point guard).
Second point - it is the above type of candor by Buzz as to why I think he's destined for greatness. Buzz builds up enough equity with his guys - to where they know he's all in, all the time, and all about them becoming their best - to where making statements like, "Junior can't shoot," doesn't result in a bad player coach relationship. Plus, you know it has to grind on Junior, and make Junior want to do everything he can do to prove Buzz wrong.
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Gabe York was also scheduled to play in the Jayhawk Invitational this weekend as well.
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Maybe the issue is that there aren't many "pure points" around anymore. Maybe the kids that run point in AAU and HS ball aren't cut out for D1 ball, so instead you have to convert a more athletic, but undersized, 2 guard to run the point.
I don't know the answer...I also don't know if Buzz prefers pures but can't get them, or if he likes the idea of the combo guards.
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Maybe the issue is that there aren't many "pure points" around anymore. Maybe the kids that run point in AAU and HS ball aren't cut out for D1 ball, so instead you have to convert a more athletic, but undersized, 2 guard to run the point.
I don't know the answer...I also don't know if Buzz prefers pures but can't get them, or if he likes the idea of the combo guards.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's the former. These days, everyone wants a point that's 6'3" or 6'4", and anyone under 6'0" is considered undersized. Ten-fifteen years ago, any point that was 6'1" or taller was pretty big for the position. The kids that have the athleticism to shine are more often than not going to try to be scorers because the mindset is that the scorers are the stars and get the big-time scholarships.
I think it can work either way. Whether they were always a point (JC) or have to develop the skills (York), I want a guy who's willing to be dedicated to being a point guard. The jump shot is a bonus, but ideally, I want a guy who's looking for the pass first, who can thread a needle with a basketball, and who seems to have eyes like Triclops from He-Man because he sees the whole court.
I was listening to the Score the other day and one of D-Rose's high school coaches was talking about him. He said that he remembered a game when Rose was at Simeon against some other national powerhouse. Before the game, Rose said that he knew there were scouts there and that he had to prove to the country that he was the best point guard out there and that he was ready to dominate. The coaching staff got uneasy, expecting him to jack up 25 shots and try to outscore the opponents by himself. Instead, he went 1-3 from the field, scored 2 points, but was in complete control of the game because he just distributed all day. That's what I want. A guy who has the ability to score if needed, but who is focused on making the team better.
Then again, I suppose that's what most every college team wants from their point guard. Whether we can get that out of York, or Harrow, or Dunn, or Wilson, I don't care. I just want someone who can be a point guard first. Buycks gave a valiant effort in making the position switch, but it was pretty clear that his game wasn't best suited to the 1. We need someone whose skillset fits. Here's hoping Buzz can find that guy (or already has).
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Deftly played He-Man reference. Good memories!
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York is one of the more sought after scoring guards on the west coast for his class. He's one of the most prolific jump shooters in the country. He gets great lift on his shot and his range extends to 25-feet. In terms of finishing in transition, he is exceptional. He has excellent body control finishing in the paint area and he has had a number of highlight reel dunks in traffic throughout his young career. 14th best shooting gaurd by ESPN. Heres a link of a you tube video some of his highlights. Let me know what you guys think of him...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Bo13jyWpo
Buzz Williams and Marquette must have sensed that he is an unbelievable scorer early because the Golden Eagles are well positioned to make a run at him. York said Williams has done the best job with him so far.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6430255
Heres another link from espn that Gabe mentions his deep interset in us.
Overall this would be a huge pick up for us in 2012 he could make a huge impact as a freshman.
With Marquette producing a lot of nba gaurds it would be a grat fit for him. We need him and he needs us.
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That would be HUGE if we could land him. C'mon Buzz!
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I think I've seen this thread already...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26783.0
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This guy still in the picture?
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This guy still in the picture?
He hasn't committed elsewhere yet, but I have to think that after getting the verbal from TJ Taylor, York will likely be looking elsewhere.
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I read he was going to visit over the summer when he was in chicago for a Tournament. I'm off the opinion that They are looking at york as a PG and that they want to Bring in a point for 2012. As well as a Big.
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I read he was going to visit over the summer when he was in chicago for a Tournament. I'm off the opinion that They are looking at york as a PG and that they want to Bring in a point for 2012. As well as a Big.
I think it will depend on what happens with our 2 remaining scholarships for this year, but I just can't see adding a second point for 2012. As of right now, we have 2 scholarships we can use this year. We have none for 2012. If any open, or if we don't use one, we are currently bringing in a point guard (TJ Taylor) and a switchable (Jamal Ferguson). Based on Buzz's recruiting philosophy, if he adds anyone for 2012, it should be a big as he wants one point and one big every year.
While some places list Taylor as a SG, he was a PG first that had a scoring mentality. York, on the other hand, is a shooting guard that is trying to learn the point to better suit the college game. But Taylor has always been PG first while York has been SG first. He's a great talent, but based on our incoming class, he doesn't seem to be our biggest need. I think that barring transfers or holding over multiple scholarships, guys like York and Kris Dunn probably became very low priorities when we got the verbal from Taylor.
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Taylor is a shooting guard who can probably play some point not the other way around.
Physically he is a bigger version of DJO.
Both Rivals and Scout had him listed as a shooting guard.
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Taylor is a shooting guard who can probably play some point not the other way around.
Physically he is a bigger version of DJO.
Both Rivals and Scout had him listed as a shooting guard.
OUHoops.com calls him a left-handed point guard. At Paris, they were overjoyed to add former three-time Denison all-star point guard TJ Taylor. The schools that brought him in seem to have brought him in as a point guard. A scoring point, granted, but still a point.
Gabe York has specifically talked about needing to improve his point skills. Can't find the link right now, but he's definitely a shooting guard first.
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This is a no brainer. Marquette would jump for joy to sign Gabe York. The people here saying otherwise haven't seen him play.
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I think it will depend on what happens with our 2 remaining scholarships for this year, but I just can't see adding a second point for 2012. As of right now, we have 2 scholarships we can use this year. We have none for 2012. If any open, or if we don't use one, we are currently bringing in a point guard (TJ Taylor) and a switchable (Jamal Ferguson). Based on Buzz's recruiting philosophy, if he adds anyone for 2012, it should be a big as he wants one point and one big every year.
While some places list Taylor as a SG, he was a PG first that had a scoring mentality. York, on the other hand, is a shooting guard that is trying to learn the point to better suit the college game. But Taylor has always been PG first while York has been SG first. He's a great talent, but based on our incoming class, he doesn't seem to be our biggest need. I think that barring transfers or holding over multiple scholarships, guys like York and Kris Dunn probably became very low priorities when we got the verbal from Taylor.
Ferguson and Taylor are verbal commitments. There is no guarantee that they actually sign with us.
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Ferguson and Taylor are verbal commitments. There is no guarantee that they actually sign with us.
Given his history - things not working out at Okla., his mom wanting him to go to MU in the first place- Taylor has got to be as close to a lock as a verbal can get.
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Ferguson and Taylor are verbal commitments. There is no guarantee that they actually sign with us.
Okay...that's true...but I have to imagine that until one of them says otherwise, Buzz will proceed with his recruiting under the assumption they are coming. You don't go out and get five point guards for a recruiting class just because you are afraid one might back out. Granted, verbals aren't binding commitments, but getting a verbal definitely impacts how you go about building the rest of the recruiting class.