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Title: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: WarriorHal on April 06, 2011, 08:04:59 PM
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20110406/ARTICLES/110409753/-1/news38?Title=Henson-and-Zeller-to-stay-at-UNC-Irving-to-leave-Duke-for-the-NBA

Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: marquettewade3 on April 06, 2011, 09:20:31 PM
Irving = moron
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 06, 2011, 09:25:21 PM
Probably not a moron. He's projected to be the No. 1 pick overall.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: marquette99 on April 06, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Have to agree he should go.  How many millions are no. 1 and 2 picks guaranteed this year for 2years?

Got to take the money - can't risk another injury.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: MarquetteDano on April 06, 2011, 09:37:09 PM
Would have been nice to see Henson go.  Another year of watching that punk yell in people's faces when he gets an easy dunk due to his teammates skill.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: flash on April 06, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: marquettewade3 on April 06, 2011, 09:20:31 PM
Irving = moron


It would be moronic to pass up on the 5 million dollar per year contract he will get when he is selected #1 overall.  He is making the right move.   
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: MUBurrow on April 06, 2011, 11:22:15 PM
he's got to go. not only does he project to be in the top 3 right now, but I would wager that PG is amongst the most volatile from year to year. If you're a seven foot monster, you're height and ability to add muscle wont ever go away. If youre a six and change PG, staying just allows scouts to dissect your game to death and find excuses for you to tumble down the draft board.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on April 06, 2011, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: MUBurrow on April 06, 2011, 11:22:15 PM
he's got to go. not only does he project to be in the top 3 right now, but I would wager that PG is amongst the most volatile from year to year. If you're a seven foot monster, you're height and ability to add muscle wont ever go away. If youre a six and change PG, staying just allows scouts to dissect your game to death and find excuses for you to tumble down the draft board.

See "Dominic James"

Loved what he did for our team, but it was such a huge bummer to see him go out the way he did...he'd be in the NBA if it wasn't for that injury.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: Wareagle on April 06, 2011, 11:30:17 PM
Getting a multi-million dollar payday to drop out of undergrad and do what he's naturally good at...  College is fun, but not that fun.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: The Lens on April 07, 2011, 08:22:44 AM
Also as a Top 5 (prob #1) pick, he'll have a nice shoe deal and a few other smaller deals that will most likely kick in immediately.  Unlike borderline guys, he'll be cashing paychecks right away.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: reinko on April 07, 2011, 08:23:53 AM
I just hope the T-Wolves take him.   ;D
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: lab_warrior on April 07, 2011, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: marquettewade3 on April 06, 2011, 09:20:31 PM
Irving = moron


That post = MORONIC.

Yeah, let's turn down easy top 5 draft pick status and millions in salary, for the TRANSCENDENT opportunity to play for Coach RatFace for tuition.  REAL TOUGH DECISION.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: lab_warrior on April 07, 2011, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: reinko on April 07, 2011, 08:23:53 AM
I just hope the T-Wolves take him.   ;D

After the second PG on that roster, and the third...there's ONLY FIVE PGs LEFT!

Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 07, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
How does the pending lockout affect the draft?
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: Blackhat on April 07, 2011, 04:36:46 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 06, 2011, 09:37:09 PM
Would have been nice to see Henson go.  Another year of watching that punk yell in people's faces when he gets an easy dunk due to his teammates skill.

Henson's a weird dude.  His skill set/athletic build is lotto pick but his immature game/mindset is high schoolish.   If he wasn't such a boner he'd be a sure fire top 10.   Barnes better go.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: brewcity77 on April 07, 2011, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: Stone Cold on April 07, 2011, 04:36:46 PM
Henson's a weird dude.  His skill set/athletic build is lotto pick but his immature game/mindset is high schoolish.   If he wasn't such a boner he'd be a sure fire top 10.   Barnes better go.

Barnes said he'd be back, like Sullinger. Who knows if either will stick to that, but I think quite a few players that would be sure-fire top 10 picks may end up staying another year because of the impending lockout. It'd be a crappy scenario for lottery teams this year, but could make for a really good draft pool next summer.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: MarquetteDano on April 08, 2011, 09:28:10 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 07, 2011, 04:39:45 PM
Barnes said he'd be back, like Sullinger. Who knows if either will stick to that, but I think quite a few players that would be sure-fire top 10 picks may end up staying another year because of the impending lockout. It'd be a crappy scenario for lottery teams this year, but could make for a really good draft pool next summer.

This is bad for college basketball from a non-monetary standpoint, imo.  Forget about the great parity this year with Mid Major conferences having the second best record in the tourney.  The elite teams will be really, really good next year.  I can only hope the Barnes' and Sullingers of the world decide to go pro at the last minute.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: brewcity77 on April 08, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 08, 2011, 09:28:10 AMThis is bad for college basketball from a non-monetary standpoint, imo.  Forget about the great parity this year with Mid Major conferences having the second best record in the tourney.  The elite teams will be really, really good next year.  I can only hope the Barnes' and Sullingers of the world decide to go pro at the last minute.

I don't think it will be bad for college basketball. Was it a bad thing in the 1990s when the best players usually stayed 2-3 years before declaring? The good thing about college basketball is that even when the overall quality of play is down, you can still have a great tournament which leaves most people satisfied with the season. During the regular season, having returning stars will likely increase ratings, and come March, we'll either have even more fantastic upsets or we'll have truly special teams to watch. Either way, college basketball will be just fine.
Title: Re: Henson and Zeller to stay at UNC; Irving to leave Duke for the NBA
Post by: RawdogDX on April 09, 2011, 08:34:33 AM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 08, 2011, 09:28:10 AM
This is bad for college basketball from a non-monetary standpoint, imo.  Forget about the great parity this year with Mid Major conferences having the second best record in the tourney.  The elite teams will be really, really good next year.  I can only hope the Barnes' and Sullingers of the world decide to go pro at the last minute.

Elite teams are always really, really good.  That is what the word means.
This year there were no elite teams. 
I think that it would be more accurate to say: among the top programs, there will be some elite teams. 
College basketball, like all sports, is better with a few elite teams. 

I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing two great teams battle it out in the title game.

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