http://www.lostlettermen.com/2011-12-pre-season-rankings-north-carolina-texas-lead-road-to-new-orleans/
3rd in BE?
Xavier is ahead of us after we beat them in Ohio for this poll.
6 BE teams, and 8 in the top 30.
I agree with your title. There is no way to determine what can and will happen between now and then.
Luke Winn has us coming in at #19:
http://tourney.si.com/2011/04/05/after-the-confetti-our-top-32-for-11-12-2/?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin
Rankings have zero bearing on what happens in March, but nonetheless I always love seeing a number next to our name!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/654952-ncaa-basketball-early-early-top-25-for-2012/page/9
A number of people laughed when I called next year's Vandy team "terrifying". Now we see them turning up in the top 10 of 2/3 of these polls, and ranked #17 in the other. Why? Because as good as their team was this year that beat us, they return every key player and will likely be even better. We lose 2 starters and a key reserve. I know it's at home, I know we have some good looking replacements, but anyone who doesn't think that Vandy game will be very, very tough could be in for a rough wake-up call come December.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 05, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
A number of people laughed when I called next year's Vandy team "terrifying". Now we see them turning up in the top 10 of 2/3 of these polls, and ranked #17 in the other. Why? Because as good as their team was this year that beat us, they return every key player and will likely be even better. We lose 2 starters and a key reserve. I know it's at home, I know we have some good looking replacements, but anyone who doesn't think that Vandy game will be very, very tough could be in for a rough wake-up call come December.
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jk ;D
Vanderbilt will be very good next season. They will be anywhere from minimum top 25, to top 15 or top 10.
They return a lot of players, and they add two stud big guards in Kedren Johnson and Dai-Jon Parker for back court depth(to go along with Tinsley, Jenkins, Fuller) Front court...Taylor, Ezeli, Tchiengang, Goulbourne, Odom and Redshirt Henderson. Shelby Moats also comes in as a newcomer.
The one question mark they have is whether or not Taylor stays for next season.
Vanderbilt was a top 15-25 caliber team this year and will be every bit of that if not better next season.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 05, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
A number of people laughed when I called next year's Vandy team "terrifying". Now we see them turning up in the top 10 of 2/3 of these polls, and ranked #17 in the other. Why? Because as good as their team was this year that beat us, they return every key player and will likely be even better. We lose 2 starters and a key reserve. I know it's at home, I know we have some good looking replacements, but anyone who doesn't think that Vandy game will be very, very tough could be in for a rough wake-up call come December.
The 1989-91 UNLV teams were terrifying.
A top 15 Vandy team? Not so much.
Good? Yes. Beatable? Absolutely. Scary? Not at all.
MU will in all likelihood play at least a couple, maybe more, better teams next year, just as they did this year.
I think I know what you're saying ... Vandy will be a good team and a challenge. But I don't think they're going to terrify anybody.
That image is awesome (http://ptc-investigation.com/images/laughing-smiley-007.gif)
Quote from: reinko on April 05, 2011, 04:23:22 PM
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jk ;D
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 05, 2011, 05:05:25 PM
That image is awesome (http://ptc-investigation.com/images/laughing-smiley-007.gif)
Now, I am unsure if you are responding to my jackassery, with more jackassery. Eh, either way. It's the interwebs.
I believe we will be top 15 team next year. Only problem I see is that the top 3-4 teams are going to be much better compared to this years lot. There will be a real NCAA favorite by next Feb next year with a couple of real contenders. Next year top 3 in BE and S16 or E8 are well within reach.
Quote from: reinko on April 05, 2011, 05:13:16 PM
Now, I am unsure if you are responding to my jackassery, with more jackassery. Eh, either way. It's the interwebs.
Nope, your jackassery was honestly and fully appreciated. It brought a real smile to my face.
The best part of all these "way to early" polls is that most of them aren't acknowledging Jamil Wilson, who IMO may be the most talented player on the team (provided he can put all his talent together).
Fox Sports #25: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-Kentucky-gets-top-spot-for-preseson-top-25-040511
Quote from: MUONTOP on April 05, 2011, 08:02:37 PM
The best part of all these "way to early" polls is that most of them aren't acknowledging Jamil Wilson, who IMO may be the most talented player on the team (provided he can put all his talent together).
I hope you're right, this would be a big steal if it is true. I know the game of basketball is a whole lot more than points, but if Jamil is going to be one of our best players, why did he only average about 4ppg in the pac 10? I just say that because it is the only stat I remember seeing on Wilson.
Also it is fun to see us in these early polls. As much as they mean/dont mean, its nice to see that number in front of our name when we play. Its been 2 whole years since we have seen it.
I dont mean to be a downer on next year, because I think we can be pretty good (25ish wins), but is anyone as optimistic as me for 2012-13? I think we can be a FF contender that year.
Quote from: buzzchiapet on April 05, 2011, 10:21:24 PM
I hope you're right, this would be a big steal if it is true. I know the game of basketball is a whole lot more than points, but if Jamil is going to be one of our best players, why did he only average about 4ppg in the pac 10? I just say that because it is the only stat I remember seeing on Wilson.
There just aren't a ton of freshman that step into college and become the star right away, for every Harrison Barnes and Kyrie Irving there are hundreds of other freshman just adjusting to college life, class schedule and 24/7 demands of a college athletic program. Jimmer Fredette and Kemba Walker didn't walk on to campus and average 25 ppg, they went through growing pains just like everyone else.
Further, Wilson had always been tagged as extremely athletic but very raw, although I was very disappointed he didn't commit to MU straight out of high school I think the opportunity to spend a year in Oregon and then redshirt for a year here at Marquette, where he was able to practice and gain strength without losing eligibility was probably the best case scenario for him and will pay off big in the long run. Now I don't think the kid will step on the court and average 30 ppg off the bat but he'll definitely avoid a lot of mistakes of a true freshman and he still has three years of eligibility.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/14903810/ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one-uk-no-1-as-of-now
Parrish has MU at 23.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 05, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
A number of people laughed when I called next year's Vandy team "terrifying". Now we see them turning up in the top 10 of 2/3 of these polls, and ranked #17 in the other. Why? Because as good as their team was this year that beat us, they return every key player and will likely be even better. We lose 2 starters and a key reserve. I know it's at home, I know we have some good looking replacements, but anyone who doesn't think that Vandy game will be very, very tough could be in for a rough wake-up call come December.
Are you that daft? Nobody said it wouldnt be tough, but its also not terrifying. Noone even found Duke this year on a neutral floor to be "terrifying". Fans thought we had a chance and we did. We return a lot and play them at home after losing by 1. They will be tough but im not terrified at all. I get terrified when a serial killer has me at gun point.
I'm surprised Indiana doesn't get a Top 25 nod with their heralded incoming frosh.
Wisconsin looks ripe for a beat down. No Leuer "inside-outside" game. Keaton, the bruiser, is no where to be found. I think MU can run that town.
Quote from: Aughnanure on April 05, 2011, 09:59:47 PM
Fox Sports #25: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-Kentucky-gets-top-spot-for-preseson-top-25-040511
Rosario transfered to Florida????
That guys was a really good player
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 06, 2011, 02:04:12 AM
Wisconsin looks ripe for a beat down. No Leuer "inside-outside" game. Keaton, the bruiser, is no where to be found. I think MU can run that town.
Keaton wasn't really a bruiser. They are going to start Brusewitz and Berrgeren. They will still cause match-up problems on the perimeter and be tough if they are hitting their shots, but their entire front line is weaker than year's past.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on April 06, 2011, 12:22:41 AM
Nobody said it wouldnt be tough, but its also not terrifying. Noone even found Duke this year on a neutral floor to be "terrifying". Fans thought we had a chance and we did. We return a lot and play them at home after losing by 1. They will be tough but im not terrified at all. I get terrified when a serial killer has me at gun point.
+1
This game will be no cakewalk, but do we have a good chance of winning it based on what happened last season? Absolutely.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=6299371
Katz has MU 14th
I've seen us as high as 12 and as low as 25. At this point no one has a clue about where we'll end up in the preseason polls next season, I'll be happy just to see a number next to our name.
I've seen on some polls that we are completely NR. It'll be a crapshoot.