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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: speri on March 21, 2011, 04:14:22 PM

Title: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: speri on March 21, 2011, 04:14:22 PM
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=679

                           Elite8  Final4  Final   Champ    Prev
1. 1E   Ohio St.        75.2    62.0    41.9    30.6    21.6
2. 1SW  Kansas        81.1    66.3    42.8    19.8    12.4
3. 1W   Duke            82.9    56.5    29.4    19.0    15.3
4. 4SE  Wisconsin      79.0    47.4    25.0     9.5     2.5
5. 2W   San Diego St. 59.0    24.5     9.4     4.7     5.0
6. 3SE  BYU              56.4    27.7    12.7     4.0     2.7
7. 4E   Kentucky        24.8    15.1     6.4     3.1     3.4
8. 2E   North Carolina  63.4    16.5     6.0     2.5     1.6
9. 2SE  Florida           43.6    18.8     7.6     2.0     1.4
10. 3W   Connecticut   41.0    13.8     4.3     1.8     1.0
11. 10SW Florida St.    64.2    17.6     5.9     1.2     0.09
12. 12SW Richmond     18.9     9.7     3.0     0.5     0.06
13. 11E  Marquette     36.6     6.3      1.6     0.5      0.1
14. 5W   Arizona          17.1     5.3     1.1     0.3     0.2
15. 8SE  Butler            21.0     6.0     1.5     0.2     0.04
16. 11SW VCU             35.8     6.5     1.4     0.2     0.0005

One in 200 chance for a National Title.
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 21, 2011, 04:36:33 PM
Here were the odds before the Tourney started

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=673

                               Rd3   Sweet16  Elite8  Final4  Final   Champ   1 in...
30. 11E  Marquette        52.5    19.4     7.5     1.7     0.4     0.1    762
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Last week 19.4% chance of making the sweet sixteen.  This week 100%

Last week, 7.5% chance of making the Elite 8, this week, 36.6%
Last week 1.7% chance of making the FF, this week 6.3%
Last week 0.4% chance of making the Championship game, this week 1.6%
Last week 0.1% chance of making winning the NCAA, this week 0.5%

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Interestingly, here were our odds for the BE Tourney.

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=666

Seed                      Rd1    Qtrs   Semis   Final   Champ
9 Connecticut        92.8    46.6    12.7     4.7     2.0

46.6% chance of making the quarters and we did.
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: Coleman on March 21, 2011, 04:39:03 PM
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Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: #MUBB on March 21, 2011, 04:40:17 PM
So you're saying there's a chance??!
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: nycwarrior on March 21, 2011, 04:44:15 PM
Great minds think alike.

Thank you Lloyd Christmas
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
A 5x better chance than before last weekend!
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: Coleman on March 21, 2011, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: speri on March 21, 2011, 04:14:22 PM
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=679

                           Elite8  Final4  Final   Champ    Prev
1. 1E   Ohio St.        75.2    62.0    41.9    30.6    21.6
2. 1SW  Kansas        81.1    66.3    42.8    19.8    12.4
3. 1W   Duke            82.9    56.5    29.4    19.0    15.3
4. 4SE  Wisconsin      79.0    47.4    25.0     9.5     2.5
5. 2W   San Diego St. 59.0    24.5     9.4     4.7     5.0
6. 3SE  BYU              56.4    27.7    12.7     4.0     2.7
7. 4E   Kentucky        24.8    15.1     6.4     3.1     3.4
8. 2E   North Carolina  63.4    16.5     6.0     2.5     1.6
9. 2SE  Florida           43.6    18.8     7.6     2.0     1.4
10. 3W   Connecticut   41.0    13.8     4.3     1.8     1.0
11. 10SW Florida St.    64.2    17.6     5.9     1.2     0.09
12. 12SW Richmond     18.9     9.7     3.0     0.5     0.06
13. 11E  Marquette     36.6     6.3      1.6     0.5      0.1
14. 5W   Arizona          17.1     5.3     1.1     0.3     0.2
15. 8SE  Butler            21.0     6.0     1.5     0.2     0.04
16. 11SW VCU             35.8     6.5     1.4     0.2     0.0005

One in 200 chance for a National Title.

Although when you just look at it one game at a time, as our chances of getting to the Elite 8, we are ahead of Richmond and Kentucky, which means we are the 11th mostly likely team out of the remaining 16 to advance. Not terrible.
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2011, 04:51:20 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 21, 2011, 04:36:33 PM
Interestingly, here were our odds for the BE Tourney.
Seed                      Rd1    Qtrs   Semis   Final   Champ
9 Connecticut        92.8    46.6    12.7     4.7     2.0

46.6% chance of making the quarters and we did.

Hey, you're a UConn fan!?!?  ;D

Marquette actually only had a 32.1% chance - and that's less than our chance of beating UNC.  They're DOOMED!!

Seed                      Rd1    Qtrs   Semis   Final   Champ
11 Marquette          76.4    32.1    11.9     4.7     1.5
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: brewcity77 on March 21, 2011, 04:55:57 PM
My biggest worry is UNC's length and defense. However, I think the Washington game was very telling. If you can run with them and knock down shots, you can keep up. The Huskies, like us, have a very efficient offense, play at pace, and don't have the best of defenses. UNC also plays at pace, but has a great defense. However, their offense isn't as efficient as ours is.

Granted, defense wins championships, but one thing we're learning about Buzz is that while his teams may not be consistent defensively, they are excellent when he can focus in on a single opponent. Given a few days to dissect Xavier, we had a great game plan and decimated them. Against Syracuse, most of the work was done from earlier in the season. Now they have four days to prep for UNC, and I am confident that with no other distractions, they will have a very good defensive strategy.

My other worry is their length. They have 4 guys that get 14+ minutes per game and are 6'8" or taller. Otule has to stay out of foul trouble or we could struggle mightily in the post. I really hope JFB is assigned to cover Barnes. He's quick enough, and if the responsibility falls to Otule, I expect he'll be in severe foul trouble. His hands will be full enough with Henson and Zeller.
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 22, 2011, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2011, 04:51:20 PM
Hey, you're a UConn fan!?!?  ;D

Marquette actually only had a 32.1% chance - and that's less than our chance of beating UNC.  They're DOOMED!!

Seed                      Rd1    Qtrs   Semis   Final   Champ
11 Marquette          76.4    32.1    11.9     4.7     1.5


A thousand apologies for this typo. 

Yes, I was going to say we have less than of making the BE quarters than beating UNC.
We had less odds of making the S16 than beating UNC.

Can we overcome the odds and beat UNC?  Answer:  We have overcome long odds in each of the last two weeks. 

Good things come in threes!
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: redbirdwarrior on March 22, 2011, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 link=topic=26176.msg292893#msg292893 Good things come in threes!
/quote]

But can they come in sixes?  Double threes, after all.
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: Doris Burkes Thong on March 22, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2011, 04:55:57 PM
Now they have four days to prep for UNC, and I am confident that with no other distractions, they will have a very good defensive strategy.

The thing is I think distractions could be a real problem. I mean Buzz is on every sports show/radio show possible right now and he wasn't having to deal with that the week leading up to Xavier. Plus, I think it's human nature for the players/coaches to kinda let their joy/sense of accomplishment from making the Sweet 16 in such a long time to make them not as hungry. MU is all over the media this week and UNC is back home and actually out of the spotlight. Why? Because at UNC you're expected to make the Sweet 16 every year. I'll be surprised if this MU team comes out with the same focus and intensity as it had this past weekend in Cleveland.
Title: Re: Odds for remainer of tournament
Post by: HoopsMalone on March 22, 2011, 05:10:03 PM
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on March 22, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
The thing is I think distractions could be a real problem. I mean Buzz is on every sports show/radio show possible right now and he wasn't having to deal with that the week leading up to Xavier. Plus, I think it's human nature for the players/coaches to kinda let their joy/sense of accomplishment from making the Sweet 16 in such a long time to make them not as hungry. MU is all over the media this week and UNC is back home and actually out of the spotlight. Why? Because at UNC you're expected to make the Sweet 16 every year. I'll be surprised if this MU team comes out with the same focus and intensity as it had this past weekend in Cleveland.

Agreed.  Buzz is getting a ton of attention.  Probably should start focusing in starting tomorrow.

I think that this team is better enjoying the moment.  I think that they play better when they are throwing up the three goggles rather than getting all serious. 
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