in the discussion was the over and back inbound play by Cuse with 50 seconds left. I believe that turnover lead to DJO's 3. Am I right?
After 5 years of heartbreakers, we finally caught a break. I would say that swung the game to us.
I may be wrong, but I thought that was a bad call. He caught the ball with a foot on the line which is not a violation. If he caught it in the frontcourt and then moved the foot to the line, it is a violation, but I didn't see it that way. They deserved it for that cheap pull down of Otule that led to his 3rd foul.
The other break play we got was the Triche injury. Don't think Junior was set when Triche took off and we got the call plus they lost Triche for the game.
he caught the ball in the air, then landed on the line. He had established position in the front court before and while in the air. Landing on the line caused a violation.
It was the right call, if for no other reason than because it was a major reason we are IN THE SWEET 16!!!
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 20, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
The other break play we got was the Triche injury. Don't think Junior was set when Triche took off and we got the call plus they lost Triche for the game.
Sorry, if that was one of our players I'd call him a kitten. He fell on his back and was crying on the bench. He embarrassed himself and I thought at that point that we would win the game.
The proverbial difference between being injured and being hurt.
How about the SYR player swatting the ball out of the net and not getting a technical.
The worst call was the foul on Otule when he was tackled. The back court was the right call.
He also traveled but that wasn't discussed on air.
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 20, 2011, 09:35:04 PM
I may be wrong, but I thought that was a bad call. He caught the ball with a foot on the line which is not a violation. If he caught it in the frontcourt and then moved the foot to the line, it is a violation, but I didn't see it that way. They deserved it for that cheap pull down of Otule that led to his 3rd foul.
No that was absolutely the correct call. Leaving his feet in the front court establishes his position there and then he came down IN the front court but with his foot on the line. No way it could have been called anything else.
Agree with someone else here that Jackson tackling Otule was an awful missed call. That needed to be the ref up top correcting the ref below. Oh well.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 20, 2011, 09:48:55 PM
Sorry, if that was one of our players I'd call him a kitten. He fell on his back and was crying on the bench. He embarrassed himself and I thought at that point that we would win the game.
The proverbial difference between being injured and being hurt.
You've clearly never bruised your tailbone. Supposed to be one of the most painful injuries in sports, as well as one of the injuries that's the hardest to play through because of how much it affects the lower back, the legs, the ability to plant, make quick movements, etc.
Must be easy for you to call out their players from your chair in your home. I'd love to see you try to play through that and not be a liability to your team.
Quote from: warriors1991 on March 20, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
No that was absolutely the correct call. Leaving his feet in the front court establishes his position there and then he came down IN the front court but with his foot on the line. No way it could have been called anything else.
Agree with someone else here that Jackson tackling Otule was an awful missed call. That needed to be the ref up top correcting the ref below. Oh well.
There were a few missed calls, but overall, i thought the refs officiated the game really well and except for a few select instances, the refs have done a great job in the tournament.
As for the play of the game, most will pick the three by DJO, but i felt that the three by Crowder was just as important.
Our offense had come up empty on the previous few trips and we were down three with about 2 minutes left, it felt like one of those possessions to me where it was extra imperative where we had to get some points. Had he missed instead and Syracuse came down with a basket, we'd have been down 5 with under two minutes left. That can lead players to press and take a quick shot the next time down, suddenly things go bad in a blink.
Quote from: MisterDMU on March 20, 2011, 11:11:22 PM
You've clearly never bruised your tailbone. Supposed to be one of the most painful injuries in sports, as well as one of the injuries that's the hardest to play through because of how much it affects the lower back, the legs, the ability to plant, make quick movements, etc.
Must be easy for you to call out their players from your chair in your home. I'd love to see you try to play through that and not be a liability to your team.
No joke. I bruised my tailbone over a month ago, and it still hurts like a bitch several times throughout the day. With that said, Triche is still a kitten. ;D
Quote from: jt92 on March 20, 2011, 10:14:04 PM
The worst call was the foul on Otule when he was tackled. The back court was the right call.
Yes.
The over and back is KARMA for Rick flopping and pulling Otule down!
Quote from: 82fanatic on March 20, 2011, 09:42:39 PM
he caught the ball in the air, then landed on the line. He had established position in the front court before and while in the air. Landing on the line caused a violation.
Saw the replay this morning and you are absolutely right. He caught the ball before his foot came down, making it a violation. Another example of moronic Big East play in this tournament.
4-3 Art. 8. After a jump ball or during a throw-in, the player in his/her front
court, who makes the initial touch on the ball while both feet are off the
playing court, may be the first to secure control of the ball and land with one
or both feet in the back court. It makes no difference if the first foot down
was in the front court or back court.
I thought it was a good call at the time but after reading this I think that we caught a break.
Quote from: radome on March 21, 2011, 07:36:06 AM
4-3 Art. 8. After a jump ball or during a throw-in, the player in his/her front
court, who makes the initial touch on the ball while both feet are off the
playing court, may be the first to secure control of the ball and land with one
or both feet in the back court. It makes no difference if the first foot down
was in the front court or back court.
I thought it was a good call at the time but after reading this I think that we caught a break.
I'm not sure it was an over and back, but it was definitely a travel.
Quote from: radome on March 21, 2011, 07:36:06 AM
4-3 Art. 8. After a jump ball or during a throw-in, the player in his/her front
court, who makes the initial touch on the ball while both feet are off the
playing court, may be the first to secure control of the ball and land with one
or both feet in the back court. It makes no difference if the first foot down
was in the front court or back court.
I thought it was a good call at the time but after reading this I think that we caught a break.
The thing is, it all could have been avoided had he just let the ball go into the back court and gone to get it, or ran back there to catch it. He let the officials become a part of the play by trying to do too much.
Sometimes nerves or pressure situations in big games will make you do some strange stuff. For instance, Lazar Hayward on an inbounds play. I'll take a break that goes our way for once.
http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/play/collegebasketball/qa67zUuaQzDeQEenOex3_9jAxTMoFI82
I think that you are correct about the travel.
Quote from: radome on March 21, 2011, 07:36:06 AM
4-3 Art. 8. After a jump ball or during a throw-in, the player in his/her front
court, who makes the initial touch on the ball while both feet are off the
playing court, may be the first to secure control of the ball and land with one
or both feet in the back court. It makes no difference if the first foot down
was in the front court or back court.
I thought it was a good call at the time but after reading this I think that we caught a break.
Syracuse caught a break too when Robert Jackson absolutely mugged and threw down CO in the lane and CO got called for the foul. Refs make mistakes. As long as they are unbiased in their mistakes, I have no problem with it. These refs weren't too bad.