Pitt loses, so if UW wins they get to play Butler.....so tired of this garbage.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 08:35:45 PM
Pitt loses, so if UW wins they get to play Butler.....so tired of this garbage.
UW might have a harder time against Butler than Pitt.
Butler has earned the right to play KSU or UW. They just beat the #1 seed.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 08:35:45 PM
Pitt loses, so if UW wins they get to play Butler.....so tired of this garbage.
That's a big if. When's the last time they beat a single-seed in the Dance? Doubt they'll have to worry about Pitt or Butler.
Pretty much "clear" sailing til the Final Four.
But I think Florida's gonna knock them off in the E8.
Of course they can't miss a fricking three when Taylor is cold.
I hate everything about Madison. This year especially.
They're a very good team. They're fundamentally sound and that's why they are one of the better programs in the country. They have a good shot to go to the Final Four now.
But hey, they are slow and they don't look pretty so that's all that matters to some.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 08:35:45 PM
Pitt loses, so if UW wins they get to play Butler.....so tired of this garbage.
I like Wisky's chances better against Pitt... Butler aint no cupcake...
So F'n sick and tired of their loudmouth blowhard fans getting to continually boast about how deep they went in the tourney. they are going to the Elite 8, and they will be proud of it even though they only had to beat Butler to do it. It's sh*t like this that really ruins 3 great days of the NCAA tourney for me. I want them to lose so badly and then when they win and get really F'n lucky with a draw in the process, it just stings so much more.
Should be a great game vs Butler, but I'm goin' with Bucky. I think they'll be tough out.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 10:26:06 PM
So F'n sick and tired of their loudmouth blowhard fans getting to continually boast about how deep they went in the tourney. they are going to the Elite 8, and they will be proud of it even though they only had to beat Butler to do it. It's sh*t like this that really ruins 3 great days of the NCAA tourney for me. I want them to lose so badly and then when they win and get really F'n lucky with a draw in the process, it just stings so much more.
They just beat a decent K-State team...it's not like they were a push over.
I would be pumped about an elite 8 appearrance as well, who cares who they beat. I would take an elite 8 right now, even it meant the three wins were Centenary, UALR, and IUPUI.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 19, 2011, 10:29:00 PM
They just beat a decent K-State team Jacob Pullen and 4 other dudes...it's not like they were a push over.
fixed.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 19, 2011, 10:29:00 PM
They just beat a decent K-State team...it's not like they were a push over.
Maybe but they f'n get Butler next round. That's what I mean. Stop and think about that....Butler. No stopping them from going to the Elite 8, because their F'n bracket breaks open, and we will have to listen to their f'n mouths all damn off season.
What a joke.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
Maybe but they f'n get Butler next round. That's what I mean. Stop and think about that....Butler. No stopping them from going to the Elite 8, because their F'n bracket breaks open, and we will have to listen to their f'n mouths all damn off season.
Nothing to brag about if you don't win the tourny. A deep run that ends with a loss dosen't mean sh!t if you don't win the whole thing.
No cuz pullen actually made a contribution to his teams loss, tu did not
I hate how luck these guys get...never play a higher seed until late in the tourney....and someone please tell me how that bruziwits guy is any good at bball>???
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
Maybe but they f'n get Butler next round. That's what I mean. Stop and think about that....Butler. No stopping them from going to the Elite 8, because their F'n bracket breaks open, and we will have to listen to their f'n mouths all damn off season.
Maybe we should try beating them at home...that way they get a worse seed. Maybe we need to win a few more games ourselves to get a better seed and better road.
Sure, they get Butler but they got their 4 seed by being a very solid team this year. That's the key, THEY EARNED THEIR SEED. Honestly, I think they would have given Pitt fits.
It's perfect. They'll get bounced by another mid-major, a la Cornell and Davidson. Taylor will get outplayed by Shelvin Mack. Hopefully, that will keep the Jordan Taylor-as-an-NBA-point-guard chatter to a minimum on this board.
They won, it's not their fault that Pitt didn't hold up their end of the bargain. Yes, UW has gotten lucky recently, but they've had some bad luck with injuries as well.
Quote from: whodem on March 19, 2011, 10:48:39 PM
They won, it's not their fault that Pitt didn't hold up their end of the bargain. Yes, UW has gotten lucky recently, but they've had some bad luck with injuries as well.
Wisconsin gets "lucky" because they're a consistently strong basketball team. I'm not a Badger slurper like some on here, but you have to give them credit. As obnoxious as their fans are and as ugly as their brand of basketball is, they typically win the games they're supposed to win.
Why is this a problem? They're doing what they have to do.
As for "getting" to play Butler, they were the national runners up last year, and they just (deservedly) KO'd the Big East regular season champions/#1 seed.
No such thing as an "easy out" after the first weekend.
Tip of the cap to UW for another Sweet Sixteen. Let's hope we can keep up.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 19, 2011, 10:52:16 PM
Wisconsin gets "lucky" because they're a consistently strong basketball team. I'm not a Badger slurper like some on here, but you have to give them credit. As obnoxious as their fans are and as ugly as their brand of basketball is, they typically win the games they're supposed to win.
By "lucky" I meant in some of their draws in past years. They're a good, solid, fundamentally sound basketball team. They're boring, but they win, and in the end that's all that matters.
Quote from: whodem on March 19, 2011, 10:55:57 PM
By "lucky" I meant in some of their draws in past years. They're a good, solid, fundamentally sound basketball team. They're boring, but they win, and in the end that's all that matters.
I was actually agreeing with you. The "lucky" reference was aimed at the thread's title. Sorry about that.
I do not see it as getting lucky. Wisconsin would of beaten Pitt. Pitt was not playing well. Pitt lost their first game in Big East tournament and was not great in their opening round game. Butler, if they are hitting threes, will be a tougher matchup for UW than Pitt. Wisconsin's size would of nullified Pitt's inside game and Pitt is not a great three point shooting team.
Quote from: bilsu on March 19, 2011, 11:27:17 PM
I do not see it as getting lucky. Wisconsin would of beaten Pitt. Pitt was not playing well. Pitt lost their first game in Big East tournament and was not great in their opening round game. Butler, if they are hitting threes, will be a tougher matchup for UW than Pitt. Wisconsin's size would of nullified Pitt's inside game and Pitt is not a great three point shooting team.
Agree
You could see this coming as soon as you saw the brackets. Pitt had an expressway to the final four but choked as usual. Butler? They got beat twice by UWM. Of course Wisconsin is good but they are still the same team that embarrassed itself on national tv against Ohio State and scored 33 points against Penn State. They will lose as soon as they meet a decent team. Unfortunately, that may not be for a while.
They win because they have one of the best coaches in college. Lucky no chance, look at there
roster right now, 2 All-Americans, they should win. Role players that have really improved, particularly
Bruiser, the kid really has picked up his game. Tim Jarmusz played the best game of his life today, for
all the abuse these boards have been on him, great for Tim, senior leadership. Gasser, smart, plays hard.
Boring basketball at times for sure, winning basketball with Bo all the time. Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright, Buzz
Williams, they still have along way to go in getting in Bo Ryans league! Mu fans may not like it, but you
better respect it.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 19, 2011, 11:34:22 PM
They win because they have one of the best coaches in college.
True, but whens the last time he upset a team in the tournament? Or won a post season game when he wasn't favored? Do you think Marquette could'nt have beaten Belmont and K-State?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 19, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
Maybe we should try beating them at home...that way they get a worse seed. Maybe we need to win a few more games ourselves to get a better seed and better road.
Sure, they get Butler but they got their 4 seed by being a very solid team this year. That's the key, THEY EARNED THEIR SEED. Honestly, I think they would have given Pitt fits.
It's easy for you to be objective. You don't have to listen to their BS all year long. Move back to Wisconsin and then try to take the high road. All you'll hear is Vander could'nt get into UW, and all the other BS they spew. Lucky your in CA.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 19, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
Honestly, I think they would have given Pitt fits.
Not a major prediction considering ODU and Butler gave Pitt fits.
Wright has 7 straight trips to the tourney, 1 final four, 1 elite 8, and 2 sweet sixteens. I'd take that over what Bo has doneat UW. Good win for them. I hope butler knocks them out though.
Quote from: ringout on March 19, 2011, 11:43:28 PM
It's easy for you to be objective. You don't have to listen to their BS all year long. Move back to Wisconsin and then try to take the high road. All you'll hear is Vander could'nt get into UW, and all the other BS they spew. Lucky your in CA.
EXACTLY!!! I would imagine it's much easier to take when you don't have to listen to their blowhard fans yapping their gums constantly. Try dealing with that and sing their praises then.
Quote from: Mutaman on March 19, 2011, 11:38:03 PM
True, but whens the last time he upset a team in the tournament? Or won a post season game when he wasn't favored? Do you think Marquette could'nt have beaten Belmont and K-State?
Wisconsin had a higher seed than MU, which means they had a better year than MU. Sure MU might have been able to beat those
two teams. You only can play what is in front of you, and they won both games. If MU was in the top 3 in the Big East, they might
be in the same situation as Pittsburgh. You take Butler lightly, play down to your competition, you can then lose, and they did!
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 10:26:06 PM
So F'n sick and tired of their loudmouth blowhard fans getting to continually boast about how deep they went in the tourney. they are going to the Elite 8, and they will be proud of it even though they only had to beat Butler to do it. It's sh*t like this that really ruins 3 great days of the NCAA tourney for me. I want them to lose so badly and then when they win and get really F'n lucky with a draw in the process, it just stings so much more.
dude, shut the f.uck up!
You guys have won SEVEN tournament games in the past 10 years to WISCONSIN'S EIGHTEEN wins. I'm sure you'll have a response for this too, dumbass. Good job this year with your 14 loses!
I also love how you are all assuming you would beat K-State, what grounds do you have to say that? They are a better team then you guys, their... 1) Tournament Seed 2) Regular Season performance 3) performance against the UW proves it. You guys play harder teams because you got a shitty seed because of a pitiful regular season. Also, how is drawing a 5 seed (and beating them) in the second round lucky? You people are delusional.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:02:52 AM
I also love how you are all assuming you would beat K-State, what grounds do you have to say that? They are a better team then you guys, their... 1) Tournament Seed 2) Regular Season performance 3) performance against the UW proves it. You guys play harder teams because you got a crapty seed because of a pitiful regular season. Also, how is drawing a 5 seed (and beating them) in the second round lucky? You people are delusional.
sure seems like you're trying to convince yourself more than us.. hope it works out for ya.
Or how about this...in some of our recent years we've gotten very unlucky in terms of draw and timing.
2007...lose McNeal just a week before the tournament, draw an 8 seed without him in North Carolina (with a potential UNC matchup looming in round 2), get blown off the floor vs. Michigan State. Remember too that team had an 8 game Big East win streak at one point with a win at Pitt in OT that year too.
2008...crappy draw. Beat Kentucky in the first round, get Stanford in the 2nd with 2 7 footers (and we have no one above 6'10"). Play our asses off, force the game into OT, get a 1 pt lead in the closing seconds, and Brook Lopez hits a shot falling behind the backboard he'd miss 9 times out of 10 to knock us out.
2009...12-2 in Big East play heading into the stretch...James breaks his foot 4 minutes into the UConn game, team loses 5 of their last 6 to fall from a potential 1/2 seed line to a 6 without him, barely survive Utah State in round 1 of the NCAA, fall apart in the last 2 minutes vs. Mizzou playing 6 players (and with James at about 65% in spot minutes off the bench).
Not much you could do about some of it in terms of how you're seeded, but it's beyond frustrating when we think about what might have been with a couple of these teams (at least 2008 and 2009) had a ball bounced somewhat differently or avoided fluke injuries. That, combined with seeing a chief rival to the west have March success, is definitely wearing on a lot of fans.
A win tmrw and a Sweet 16 appearance of our own will do a hell of a lot to heal some of these wounds.
I'm glad i'm not a Marquette alum and thus would have to hate Wisconsin Badgers athletics.
Instead, i get to be like most of my friends and family who like sports, we like both Wisconsin and Marquette. I just like MU slightly more because i live in Milwaukee.
For the last six years, it's been great come NCAA Tournament time, i've have two teams each year to cheer for. Barring MU/UW actually meeting in the big dance, i never have to pick sides. Hopefully Marquette wins tomorrow and thus, i'll have two teams i cheer for in the Sweet 16.
As for the Badgers getting lucky draws in the NCAA Tournament, it's not like playing non-BSC high seed teams has meant it allowed them to reach a bunch of Elite 8's or Final Fours. In three of the last fours years, they were bounced by a 7th, 10th, and 12th seed. Upsets happen constantly in these NCAA Tournaments and that doesn't mean an easy win for the team facing a seed in the 7-12 range instead of a 1-5 seed instead.
I've watched nearly every Wisconsin game this year and more so than most teams, they are extremely reliant on the jump shot to win, especially the three point shot. Hell, in the first half of the Belmont game, they took 24 shots and an amazing 18 of those shots were three pointers. When they are making their threes, they can beat nearly anyone. When they are bricking their threes, they can struggle mightily to score just 50 points and sometimes even 35 points.
Well, in the first two games this week, they've made 21 three pointers and shot 54% and 45% from three. If that continues vs Butler, they'll advance. If they struggle from three, odds are very high they'll lose.
Quote from: El Duderino on March 20, 2011, 02:28:52 AM
I'm glad i'm not a Marquette alum and thus would have to hate Wisconsin Badgers athletics.
Instead, i get to be like most of my friends and family who like sports, we like both Wisconsin and Marquette. I just like MU slightly more because i live in Milwaukee.
For the last six years, it's been great come NCAA Tournament time, i've have two teams each year to cheer for. Barring MU/UW actually meeting in the big dance, i never have to pick sides. Hopefully Marquette wins tomorrow and thus, i'll have two teams i cheer for in the Sweet 16.
As for the Badgers getting lucky draws in the NCAA Tournament, it's not like playing non-BSC high seed teams has meant it allowed them to reach a bunch of Elite 8's or Final Fours. In three of the last fours years, they were bounced by a 7th, 10th, and 12th seed. Upsets happen constantly in these NCAA Tournaments and that doesn't mean an easy win for the team facing a seed in the 7-12 range instead of a 1-5 seed instead.
I've watched nearly every Wisconsin game this year and more so than most teams, they are extremely reliant on the jump shot to win, especially the three point shot. Hell, in the first half of the Belmont game, they took 24 shots and an amazing 18 of those shots were three pointers. When they are making their threes, they can beat nearly anyone. When they are bricking their threes, they can struggle mightily to score just 50 points and sometimes even 35 points.
Well, in the first two games this week, they've made 21 three pointers and shot 54% and 45% from three. If that continues vs Butler, they'll advance. If they struggle from three, odds are very high they'll lose.
I'm sorry, but it's "fans" like you that make the UW-MU rivalry a weak one. Too many "fence sitters", that root for both teams. That disgusts me. Think Louisville fans root for Kentucky?? or North Carolina fans root for Duke?? HELL no!!! And that's the way it should be!! As a UL fan once told me about their rivalry with UK.... "You either bleed red or you bleed blue, there is no in between". Why can't it be like that in this state?? That's how it SHOULD be.
Guys...You are Marquette grads. Let's work on our english.
Lucky your in CA. Should be You're, not your.
and lose has never been spelled "loose"
Not to be a stickler, but c'mon.
I'll be honest, I'd always rather see Becky BADger lose, but I can't say I care that much. I think they'll have a lot of trouble with Butler. They're designed to take on quick, strong, athletic teams like Pitt. They don't have that stylistic edge over Butler. Either way it would have been a tight game. It's not like they're in the Elite 8 yet. Besides, at least for 11 or so hours, I can dream of a Marquette Sweet 16 match-up with Washington and revenge for last year.
Hey, if Becky can "luck" into a lower seed than expected game, why can't we?
Quote from: Mutaman on March 19, 2011, 11:33:50 PM
You could see this coming as soon as you saw the brackets. Pitt had an expressway to the final four but choked as usual. Butler? They got beat twice by UWM. Of course Wisconsin is good but they are still the same team that embarrassed itself on national tv against Ohio State and scored 33 points against Penn State. They will lose as soon as they meet a decent team. Unfortunately, that may not be for a while.
They are also still the same team that BEAT OSU as well, one of only two teams in the country to do so.
Get seeded high enough and breaks happen. For those arguing that our 9th place BE tie was not so bad because of who we tied I hope you look closer at the need not be tied for 9th. To build the program to the next level we need to get higher seed in NCAA.
Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2011, 11:53:10 PM
EXACTLY!!! I would imagine it's much easier to take when you don't have to listen to their blowhard fans yapping their gums constantly. Try dealing with that and sing their praises then.
Boys, I said this same thing a few weeks ago about beating our in state rival and you would have thought I had 7 eyeballs. I totally agree with you guys but some here were literally saying it's no big deal what our rival does or how good they are or how we shouldn't care about them. Believe me, I get it. I feel for you.
Quote from: spiral97 on March 20, 2011, 02:12:32 AM
sure seems like you're trying to convince yourself more than us.. hope it works out for ya.
It has, quite well. That's why we are 25-8 and in the sweet sixteen. Thanks for your concern ;)
I'm not sure how many of the people on this board are from the state of Wisconsin, but I am. I am also a Marquette alum. Before I went to Marquette, I loved both Marquette and Wisconsin and was always happy for UW-GB or UWM when they made the tourney. I admit that when I was going to Marquette, I began to develop a hatred for Wisconsin basketball, but now that I've graduated and am almost 10 years out, I like to see the state teams do well. I will always be super tied to Marquette emotionally wayyyyyy more than I am to Wisconsin, but enjoy the fact that our little old state of Wisconsin has 2 teams that consistently get into the tournament. I always have that desire for Marquette to do better than Wisconsin, but for the Wisconsin residents to be ridiculing a great team (on either side) is getting old. I just wonder how many on either side (Bucky or MU) liked both teams at one point in time and now bash the other.
There are times when this board reads as a advertisement for MU grads to move out of the state of Wisconsin, shake the inferiority complex about the University in Madison, and gain a little perspective. The infatuation with the Badgers is existent year-round at MUScoop, but predominant during the National Tournament.
I don't want to speak for all of the thousands of alumni who are not from the state of Wisconsin, but I know I echo many of their sentiments when I say, "Marquette not only made the tournament, but is playing today for a chance to got o the Sweet 16. Who the hell cares what the Wisconsin Badgers are doing?"
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on March 20, 2011, 11:30:00 AM
There are times when this board reads as a advertisement for MU grads to move out of the state of Wisconsin, shake the inferiority complex about the University in Madison, and gain a little perspective. The infatuation with the Badgers is existent year-round at MUScoop, but predominant during the National Tournament.
I don't want to speak for all of the thousands of alumni who are not from the state of Wisconsin, but I know I echo many of their sentiments when I say, "Marquette not only made the tournament, but is playing today for a chance to got o the Sweet 16. Who the hell cares what the Wisconsin Badgers are doing?"
Thank you WI_inferiority! If you aren't from Wisconsin I can't understand why you would hate Bucky. Makes no sense as they are not the HUGE rival everyone wants to make them out to be. As if it were Bears/Packers, Michigan/Ohio State or something. Wisconsin residents need to realize that as well. Don't feel so inferior. Just be proud of Marquette and stop having a complex about the bigger school (Bucky). I can understand emotions being tied more to MU. But to call a good team lucky is just stupid. They are very well coached and well disciplined.
Quote from: EagleWarrior#12 on March 20, 2011, 12:10:07 PM
Thank you WI_inferiority! If you aren't from Wisconsin I can't understand why you would hate Bucky. Makes no sense as they are not the HUGE rival everyone wants to make them out to be. As if it were Bears/Packers, Michigan/Ohio State or something. Wisconsin residents need to realize that as well. Don't feel so inferior. Just be proud of Marquette and stop having a complex about the bigger school (Bucky). I can understand emotions being tied more to MU. But to call a good team lucky is just stupid. They are very well coached and well disciplined.
I'm not from Wisconsin and I have no problem hating on Becky. Arrogant prick fans would be the first reason. Eight NCAA probations would be another...historically they cheat. Arrogant, prick fans...did I say that already?
Those arrogant prick fans say the same thing about MU fans. And 8 ncaa probations? What? They cheat to get 3-star guys that can win? I don't recall what you are talking about.
Quote from: EagleWarrior#12 on March 20, 2011, 12:23:33 PM
Those arrogant prick fans say the same thing about MU fans. And 8 ncaa probations? What? They cheat to get 3-star guys that can win? I don't recall what you are talking about.
Wisconsin has been put on NCAA probation 7 times as a school (sorry, I said 8). One of the most in the country. MU...zero times.
Wisconsin is in the top 3 ALL TIME getting their Johnson caught cheating.
(http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/03/SECcheatinghall030908.jpg)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2011, 12:27:36 PM
Wisconsin has been put on NCAA probation 7 times as a school (sorry, I said 8). One of the most in the country. MU...zero times.
Wisconsin is in the top 3 ALL TIME getting their Johnson caught cheating.
(http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/03/SECcheatinghall030908.jpg)
That's interesting. Do you have any clue in what sports those were committed?
Quote from: whodem on March 20, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
That's interesting. Do you have any clue in what sports those were committed?
Multiple sports
Football
Basketball
Men's Soccer
Women's Soccer
Hockey
Track
ETc
Some of their major infractions covered multiple sports. For example, the Shoe Box scandal touched over 150 athletes from 14 different sports to name just one of their major infractions.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2011, 12:33:16 PM
Multiple sports
Football
Basketball
Men's Soccer
Women's Soccer
Hockey
Track
ETc
Some of their major infractions covered multiple sports. For example, the Shoe Box scandal touched over 150 athletes from 14 different sports to name just one of their major infractions.
I don't consider these as major as you make them out to be. They haven't had to suspend their coaches or had anything like what happened at Michigan or Indiana or Tennessee. Never declared ineligible for post season, etc. And we are talking basketball here so nothing major there. The day Bo Ryan is guilty of illegal recruiting or texts is the day I die.
Quote from: bilsu on March 19, 2011, 11:27:17 PM
I do not see it as getting lucky. Wisconsin would of beaten Pitt. Pitt was not playing well. Pitt lost their first game in Big East tournament and was not great in their opening round game. Butler, if they are hitting threes, will be a tougher matchup for UW than Pitt. Wisconsin's size would of nullified Pitt's inside game and Pitt is not a great three point shooting team.
Pitt lost their first conference tourney game on a last second shot to a red hot UCONN team. UW lost theirs 36-33 to Penn St. in one of the worst played college basketball games I've ever seen. Butler made 13 threes last night - if they shoot at anywhere near their average % Pitt (a much better team) wins handily. UW gets a HUGE break playing Butler.
Quote from: EagleWarrior#12 on March 20, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
I don't consider these as major as you make them out to be. They haven't had to suspend their coaches or had anything like what happened at Michigan or Indiana or Tennessee. Never declared ineligible for post season, etc. And we are talking basketball here so nothing major there. The day Bo Ryan is guilty of illegal recruiting or texts is the day I die.
The NCAA decides if they are major. The very category they were nabbed in is called
NCAA MAJOR INFRACTIONS
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2011, 12:27:36 PM
Wisconsin has been put on NCAA probation 7 times as a school (sorry, I said 8). One of the most in the country. MU...zero times.
Wisconsin is in the top 3 ALL TIME getting their Johnson caught cheating.
(http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/03/SECcheatinghall030908.jpg)
How does this have anything to do with the basketball team under Bo Ryan? I'll answer that one for you, nothing.
Our football team took some free shoes ten years ago, but nobody cares.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 01:52:53 AM
dude, shut the f.uck up!
You guys have won SEVEN tournament games in the past 10 years to WISCONSIN'S EIGHTEEN wins. I'm sure you'll have a response for this too, dumbass. Good job this year with your 14 loses!
This is what I'm talkin bout Chicos. Comparing everything to MU and not comparing any of the data relative to their seed.
Hey dumbass (only using your bright liguistics OnWis). How many games should you have won? A lot more if your honest with yourself. Your team has underachieved mightily in the tourny since BoCryin has been coach. Don't bother responding about MU because we've never played Becky in the tourny.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 01:30:36 PM
How does this have anything to do with the basketball team under Bo Ryan? I'll answer that one for you, nothing.
Our football team took some free shoes ten years ago, but nobody cares.
The question was why someone outside of Wisconsin would hate Wisconsin. I gave reasons why....you guys cheat...7 MAJOR Infractions...the shoe box was ONE incident and covered more than your football team. The other 7 have occurred outside of the Shoe Box. You guys cheat, that's why I don't like you.
Your fans are pricks and arrogant ones at that. Your myopic and provincial look at UW-madison apparently started in 1993 as if the previous 100 years didn't exist. You're like the guys that won the lottery and pretending to rub elbows with the folks that actually earned their fortunes over decades....you do the same thing with the Big Ten where schools have been there and done that for 50+ years and you're the new kid on the block with a decade of success. New money...meh.
That's why.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2011, 02:10:08 PM
The question was why someone outside of Wisconsin would hate Wisconsin. I gave reasons why....you guys cheat...7 MAJOR Infractions...the shoe box was ONE incident and covered more than your football team. The other 7 have occurred outside of the Shoe Box. You guys cheat, that's why I don't like you.
Your fans are pricks and arrogant ones at that. Your myopic and provincial look at UW-madison apparently started in 1993 as if the previous 100 years didn't exist. You're like the guys that won the lottery and pretending to rub elbows with the folks that actually earned their fortunes over decades....you do the same thing with the Big Ten where schools have been there and done that for 50+ years and you're the new kid on the block with a decade of success. New money...meh.
That's why.
Does the
Wisconsin Men's Basketball team cheat? No, end of story.
Quote from: ringout on March 20, 2011, 01:58:29 PM
This is what I'm talkin bout Chicos. Comparing everything to MU and not comparing any of the data relative to their seed.
Hey dumbass (only using your bright liguistics OnWis). How many games should you have won? A lot more if your honest with yourself. Your team has underachieved mightily in the tourny since BoCryin has been coach. Don't bother responding about MU because we've never played Becky in the tourny.
The "Big Three" won three tournament games in four years and you want to talk about UW underachieving? get a grip.
Three sweet sixteens and an Elite Eight and only one first round exit. A resume that most programs would love to have over the past ten years, your pathetic Marquette team included. I'm not even gonna go into the Butch injury, we'll leave the excuses to the Gold.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
Does the Wisconsin Men's Basketball team cheat? No, end of story.
Has the Wisconsin Men's Basketball program been penalized for cheating by the NCAA? Yes. End of Story.
Does the CURRENT men's program cheat? Probably not. I admire what you guys have done. Fundamentally sound, solid defense, smart players and consistent as hell. I hate your style, but admire the results.
I was born and raised in Wisconsin and have spent my entire life here. I've come to realize that UW's successes or failures have literally no impact on life at Marquette. And, to think otherwise is purely a waste of time. Cheer their triumphs or losses, if you like, but concentrate on your alma mater. It'll be energy weel spent.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 20, 2011, 02:22:58 PM
Has the Wisconsin Men's Basketball program been penalized for cheating by the NCAA? Yes. End of Story.
Does the CURRENT men's program cheat? Probably not. I admire what you guys have done. Fundamentally sound, solid defense, smart players and consistent as hell. I hate your style, but admire the results.
Brett Roseboro and DJ Newbill probably wishes you guys ran your program a little bit better too. Not a perfect world I guess.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:20:36 PM
The "Big Three" won three tournament games in four years and you want to talk about UW underachieving? get a grip.
Three sweet sixteens and an Elite Eight and only one first round exit. A resume that most programs would love to have over the past ten years, your pathetic Marquette team included. I'm not even gonna go into the Butch injury, we'll leave the excuses to the Gold.
You know what I mean. Don't make me bring out the details. (Cornell, Liberty, UNLV, etc.,ec.,etc.) If I were a BADger fan, I'd be pissed as hell at BoCryin, and not ragging on the in state rival.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:20:36 PM
The "Big Three" won three tournament games in four years and you want to talk about UW underachieving? get a grip.
Three sweet sixteens and an Elite Eight and only one first round exit. A resume that most programs would love to have over the past ten years, your pathetic Marquette team included. I'm not even gonna go into the Butch injury, we'll leave the excuses to the Gold.
If MU is pathetic and irrelevant, why are you posting on an MU message board?
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:34:38 PM
Brett Roseboro and DJ Newbill probably wishes you guys ran your program a little bit better too. Not a perfect world I guess.
Didn't know someone transferring, and another kid who never applied to Marquette can be equated to NCAA sanctions. Your life this sad and pathetic that to get your jolly's off, you try antagonize another team's fans on an internet message board?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 20, 2011, 02:41:53 PM
If MU is pathetic and irrelevant, why are you posting on an MU message board?
I barely ever posted here, I couldn't resist when I saw this thread. Don't call us lucky, we win more games every year. We have a great coach, talented players, and it shows.
Quote from: reinko on March 20, 2011, 02:43:57 PM
Didn't know someone transferring, and another kid who never applied to Marquette can be equated to NCAA sanctions. Your life this sad and pathetic that to get your jolly's off, you try antagonize another team's fans on an internet message board?
Good try.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:46:07 PM
Good try.
How about answering my claim? Still, worse case scenario, Buzz cut them flat out, with zero concern, cursed them and their families, their mother, and their dogs. If he did all these things, those are still equatable to NCAA sanctions?
Also, again, what drives you to post on here? I am curious. You like getting a rise out of people? You like to big mad meanie message board guy? If so, own it.
Quote from: ringout on March 20, 2011, 02:37:26 PM
You know what I mean. Don't make me bring out the details. (Cornell, Liberty, UNLV, etc.,ec.,etc.) If I were a BADger fan, I'd be pissed as hell at BoCryin, and not ragging on the in state rival.
2nd round exit
2nd round exit
1st round exit
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missed tournament
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final four
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This amazing resume belongs to your beloved Gold. You really, really don't want to compare it to what UW has done in that time frame. Oh and by the way, we never lost to Liberty, get a clue before you post.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
2nd round exit
2nd round exit
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missed tournament
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final four
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sweet sixteen
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This amazing resume belongs to your beloved Gold. You really, really don't want to compare it to what UW has done in that time frame.
So you refuse to comment on Becky's performance vs seeding, and how absolutely abysmal BoCryin's record in the tourney vs lower seeds? I didn't think so.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
2nd round exit
2nd round exit
1st round exit
1st round exit
1st round exit
missed tournament
missed tournament
final four
1st round ext
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missed tournament
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1st round exit
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missed tournament
sweet sixteen
first round
missed tournament
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This amazing resume belongs to your beloved Gold. You really, really don't want to compare it to what UW has done in that time frame. Oh and by the way, we never lost to Liberty, get a clue before you post.
See I hate when fans do this. I like Wisconsin and have been saying that throughout this post. But I do hate when someone wants to put up 15 or 20 years versus the history of the program. If you look back another 15 to 20, MU doubles up over Bucky on championship appearances, final fours, elite 8s, sweet 16s, tourney appearances and overall record, etc. Bucky's success has only begun in the time you have put forth. And half of the years on the backend you listed as missed the tourney, MU was still the better team as Wisconsin was battling Northwestern for the basement of the big ten. I mean I like Wisconsin because I live there, but don't start talking about the badgers like they have the richest of history.
Just think, you don't have to worry about Badgers fans for at least another 4 days...you have equal footing with them. Who knows, Butler might pull the upset and we might pull a bigger one.
Enjoy the week
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
This amazing resume belongs to your beloved Gold. You really, really don't want to compare it to what UW has done in that time frame. Oh and by the way, we never lost to Liberty, get a clue before you post.
You are a joke
Quote from: JMcSteal on March 21, 2011, 01:55:16 AM
You are a joke
Much like your basketball team, can't wait till UNC takes you to the woodshed. We'll send you a postcard from the Elite Eight.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 21, 2011, 03:03:57 AM
Much like your basketball team, can't wait till UNC takes you to the woodshed. We'll send you a postcard from the Elite Eight.
leave, troll
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 21, 2011, 03:03:57 AM
Much like your basketball team, can't wait till UNC takes you to the woodshed. We'll send you a postcard from the Elite Eight.
hey dumbass we have more wins in the tourney than your joke of a program has even played in, and i wouldnt be to sure about you elite eight just yet. whats happened the last couple times you played a high seed you were supposed to beat? lets see...
UNLV, Davidson, Cornell...
and last time you played an 8 seed? you got destroyed by 20
Quote from: El Duderino on March 20, 2011, 02:28:52 AM
Instead, i get to be like most of my friends and family who like sports, we like both Wisconsin and Marquette. I just like MU slightly more because i live in Milwaukee.
Sports bigamists are losers.
Quote from: JMcSteal on March 21, 2011, 03:20:29 AM
hey dumbass we have more wins in the tourney than your joke of a program has even played in, and i wouldnt be to sure about you elite eight just yet. whats happened the last couple times you played a high seed you were supposed to beat? lets see...
UNLV, Davidson, Cornell...
and last time you played an 8 seed? you got destroyed by 20
Hey dumbass, that is wrong. but thanks for playing.
As of today:
Marquette 36-29
Wisconsin 23-15 (38)
Now I understand the Marquette education is pretty lax, but most know that 38 is more than 36. Gotta love how we have the slight win % too. Now I know that you'll argue "oh but we have been to the tourney so many more times"
My answer.. give it a few years :)
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 21, 2011, 04:02:22 PM
Hey dumbass, that is wrong. but thanks for playing.
As of today:
Marquette 36-29
Wisconsin 23-15 (38)
Now I understand the Marquette education is pretty lax, but most know that 38 is more than 36. Gotta love how we have the slight win % too. Now I know that you'll argue "oh but we have been to the tourney so many more times"
My answer.. give it a few years :)
The fact that your argument is that we have 36 wins is not greater than your 38 total games played is pretty pathetic. Those numbers show show who the better program is. And should I mention our number would be greater if not the fact we skipped the tourney in 1970 and won the NIT instead.
Quote from: JMcSteal on March 21, 2011, 04:12:20 PM
The fact that your argument is that we have 36 wins is not greater than your 38 total games played is pretty pathetic. Those numbers show show who the better program is. And should I mention our number would be greater if not the fact we skipped the tourney in 1970 and won the NIT instead.
Marquette's history is better, for now. But being in my 20's.. it's nice that my team has been the cream of the crop in the state of Wisconsin, and one of the better teams in the country in general.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 21, 2011, 04:18:20 PM
Marquette's history is better, for now. But being in my 20's.. it's nice that my team has been the cream of the crop in the state of Wisconsin, and one of the better teams in the country in general.
How's the weather in Steven's Point today?
Quote from: reinko on March 21, 2011, 04:21:35 PM
How's the weather in Steven's Point today?
Milwaukee*
"This ain't no beauty contest!"
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 20, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
This amazing resume belongs to your beloved Gold. You really, really don't want to compare it to what UW has done in that time frame. Oh and by the way, we never lost to Liberty, get a clue before you post.
Sorry, I was thinking about the other Curry brother (Seth). You lost to Davidson, when Stephen took you to the woodshed. Davidson-Liberty, meh...either is embarassing.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 11:57:13 AM
Milwaukee*
Serious question, why do you hate Marquette so much? You've obviously invested a lot of time and effort to keep coming back here and even do research. I'm curious what would make you want to do that. The Scout board gets more drive-by people people from other schools because it's part of a larger network, but Scoop is a little more off the beaten path.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 11:57:13 AM
Milwaukee*
Yeah, but you're a Stevens Point alum, right? Or a SPASH grad?
Incorrect, Matt goes to Marian, isn't that right Matty?
Here is a fun one.
Buzz and "the Gold" defeated Syracuse, a #3 seed, on Sunday. In his illustrious tenure at UW, Bo's best win in the tournament is arguably over #5 seeded KSU on Saturday. To this point, Bo has never defeated a #4 seed or higher. And for fun, Buzz has 2 wins over teams seeded #8 or higher this season alone. In his career at UW, how many Wins does Bo have in the tourney over teams seeded in the top half of the bracket seed wise?...3
Quote from: Litehouse on March 22, 2011, 12:50:09 PM
Serious question, why do you hate Marquette so much? You've obviously invested a lot of time and effort to keep coming back here and even do research. I'm curious what would make you want to do that. The Scout board gets more drive-by people people from other schools because it's part of a larger network, but Scoop is a little more off the beaten path.
I don't spend a lot of time here (under 30 posts). While I don't like Marquette, it's interesting to see what's going on over here. Others do the same, for example Marquette fans on UW boards. I never really posted here until I saw this garbage thread. We have built a program that is very good year in and year out. It's asinine for fans of a 14 loss team in the Sweet Sixteen to call Wisconsin of all teams lucky.
Let's review just how "lucky" we've been.
*EARNING a 4 seed
*Game never in question against 30-4 Belmont
*Beating a very good KSU team.
Then this thread was created because we play Butler instead of Pitt. Sure I'd rather play Butler, but we match up extremely well with both teams. We play well against athletic teams who don't play the most fundamental basketball (majority of the big east). As for Butler, they are a lot like us, but we have the size, and are better at all the things they do well. (free throw shooting, taking care of the ball etc.) Nothing is a given, but I
think Wisconsin will win.
Nothing lucky about our season. Great coaching, talented players, and hard work has us looking forward to our 26th win and an Elite Eight appearance.
Quote from: Strokin 3s on March 22, 2011, 01:53:31 PM
Incorrect, Matt goes to Marian, isn't that right Matty?
Not sure who you are, but you are real creepy. I live in a suburb of Milwaukee, but I'm sure you already knew that, freak.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 02:02:47 PM
*Beating a very good KSU team.
Come on now. You mean the one man team who lost double digit games (which you have repeatedly bashed MU for) and who was overseeded as a result of beating Kansas? KSU wasn't a joke, but to call them a very good team, especially after watching their "offense" at the end of that Wisconsin game is revisionist.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 02:06:22 PM
Not sure who you are, but you are real creepy. I live in a suburb of Milwaukee, but I'm sure you already knew that, freak.
Maybe you went to Beaver Dam HS and graduated in 2006? Maybe you like to have a Myspace with your picture with no shirt on, and your jeans, hanging down past your ass? Maybe you like stuffed crust pizza?
These are all just guesses.
I could go on. And for your own good, I won't post the link.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 02:02:47 PM
I don't spend a lot of time here (under 30 posts). While I don't like Marquette, it's interesting to see what's going on over here. Others do the same, for example Marquette fans on UW boards. I never really posted here until I saw this garbage thread. We have built a program that is very good year in and year out. It's asinine for fans of a 14 loss team in the Sweet Sixteen to call Wisconsin of all teams lucky.
Let's review just how "lucky" we've been.
*EARNING a 4 seed
*Game never in question against 30-4 Belmont
*Beating a very good KSU team.
Then this thread was created because we play Butler instead of Pitt. Sure I'd rather play Butler, but we match up extremely well with both teams. We play well against athletic teams who don't play the most fundamental basketball (majority of the big east). As for Butler, they are a lot like us, but we have the size, and are better at all the things they do well. (free throw shooting, taking care of the ball etc.) Nothing is a given, but I think Wisconsin will win.
Nothing lucky about our season. Great coaching, talented players, and hard work has us looking forward to our 26th win and an Elite Eight appearance.
I always love when people say "WE". First of all you aren't on the team. Second, you didn't even go to UW.
Also love the name calling, always the avenue of last resort in an argument.
Priceless Reinko
Quote from: reinko on March 22, 2011, 02:13:51 PM
Maybe you went to Beaver Dam HS and graduated in 2006? Maybe you like to have a Myspace with your picture with no shirt on, and your jeans, hanging down past your ass? Maybe you like stuffed crust pizza?
These are all just guesses.
I could go on. And for your own good, I won't post the link.
Post it, you 47 year old internet creep ::)
Quote from: Strokin 3s on March 22, 2011, 02:15:34 PM
I always love when people say "WE". First of all you aren't on the team. Second, you didn't even go to UW.
Also love the name calling, always the avenue of last resort in an argument.
Priceless Reinko
Ummmm... WE ARE MARQUETTE?
Oh I'm sure everyone that goes to Marquette games is an alum... douche bag
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 02:35:06 PM
Post it, you 47 year old internet creep ::)
That's a 30 year old creep to you sir, and I would have. But weird, the Myspace profile is now a broken link.
Must be coincidence. Seems like someone got a little embarrassed.
Quote from: reinko on March 22, 2011, 02:48:55 PM
That's a 30 year old creep to you sir, and I would have. But weird, the Myspace profile is now a broken link.
Must be coincidence. Seems like someone got a little embarrassed.
Boom. Roasted.
This thread is awesome and there is no need to lock it or move it to the Superbar. The debate between dorks from the state of Wisconsin who root for MU and dorks from the state of Wisconsin who root for UW is always engaging banter.
I can think of nothing else happening in the world of MU basketball this week.
Quote from: reinko on March 22, 2011, 02:48:55 PM
That's a 30 year old creep to you sir, and I would have. But weird, the Myspace profile is now a broken link.
Must be coincidence. Seems like someone got a little embarrassed.
Nope, not at all. Not worth having something I haven't been on for four years, just so a creep like you can get your kicks.
Anyways, looks like you got a little defensive of your poor basketball team.
Quote from: steff_mckee on March 20, 2011, 09:05:38 AM
Guys...You are Marquette grads. Let's work on our english.
Lucky your in CA. Should be You're, not your.
and lose has never been spelled "loose"
Not to be a stickler, but c'mon.
...and "English" is capitalized, also.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 04:06:37 PM
Nope, not at all. Not worth having something I haven't been on for four years, just so a creep like you can get your kicks.
Anyways, looks like you got a little defensive of your poor basketball team.
We're supposed to take this seriously?
(http://i.imgur.com/9LqYt.jpg)
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 22, 2011, 04:59:09 PM
We're supposed to take this seriously?
(http://i.imgur.com/9LqYt.jpg)
Smells like a Stevens Point Pointer
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 22, 2011, 04:59:09 PM
We're supposed to take this seriously?
(http://i.imgur.com/9LqYt.jpg)
Ice me bro!
He looks pretty traditional
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 22, 2011, 04:59:09 PM
We're supposed to take this seriously?
(http://i.imgur.com/9LqYt.jpg)
Well when you get done jacking off to Jimmy Butler's facebook, you should add me!
Your wife should probably monitor your computer time.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 05:21:04 PM
Well when you get done jacking off to Jimmy Butler's facebook, you should add me!
Your wife should probably monitor your computer time.
Are you saying you want Skat to jack off to you?
/not that there's anything wrong with that
Quote from: reinko on March 22, 2011, 05:22:39 PM
Are you saying you want Skat to jack off to you?
I'll get this back to basketball.. Wisconsin, elite eight bound. Marquette.. well, good luck keeping it within 20.
Quote from: reinko on March 22, 2011, 05:22:39 PM
Are you saying you want Skat to jack off to you?
/not that there's anything wrong with that
I'm way ahead of you guys...
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 22, 2011, 05:29:20 PM
I'm way ahead of you guys...
Is that what you were referencing on my F'Book status the other night??? :P
Quote from: Strokin 3s on March 22, 2011, 02:15:34 PM
I always love when people say "WE". First of all you aren't on the team. Second, you didn't even go to UW.
Also love the name calling, always the avenue of last resort in an argument.
Priceless Reinko
I dunno...I feel like if we attended the school and graduated from it, we can say "we" when referring to the teams.
Though, I do hate it when people refer to pro teams or schools they didn't go to but root for as if they did as "we".
And for the record: I hate the Badgers. Will until I die.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on March 22, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: reinko on March 22, 2011, 05:22:39 PM
Are you saying you want Skat to jack off to you?
I'll get this back to basketball.. Wisconsin, elite eight bound. Marquette.. well, good luck keeping it within 20.
Good morning OnWisconsin....how you doing today?