19-7 with about 8 minutes left in first half.
Lots of time left--would be great to see Slick Rick get beat, even though I have them to the Sweet 16 in my bracket.
I hate Louisville, but if they lose this, all those annoying "Big East sucks" comments will crop up, and they just annoy me. Even if the Big East would have a bad March, we've only kicked the ever-living crap out of every other conference in the nation for the past 5 months. 3 weeks doesn't undo the ass-whooping the Big East has laid down this year.
Hate to say it, but go Loserville.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 17, 2011, 01:10:36 PM
19-7 with about 8 minutes left in first half.
Lots of time left--would be great to see Slick Rick get beat, even though I have them to the Sweet 16 in my bracket.
That's the kind of lead Louisville could never make up.
Oh, wait ...
Tie game at the half, 33 all.
Oh my, Morehead State's coach looks a bit like Dennis Hopper! LOL! :)
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2011, 01:32:23 PMTie game at the half, 33 all.
Holy crap, I went away to watch the WVU finish and UL did that? Wow. Both Big East teams overcoming large first half deficits to tie their games at halftime. Impressive stuff.
'Ville starting to pull away now, 48-41 just over 10 minutes to go in the game.
MH up 5 with 5 to go and Knowles just got hurt. Bad for Big East if they lose and bad for my pool.
Pitino's too good a coach.
Go Morehead. I picked them anyway :)
Look how many people "quit" on the team 2 minutes ago and now UL is up
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755
'Ville up 2, under 2 mins left.
This game is unbelievable, but is it just me, or is this so far the best first session of games in memory? Already a buzzer beater, Clemson/WVU was a good game, both Pitt and Kentucky are in tight games. Really good day of action so far. Let's hope for Big East sweeps and a Bucky loss 8-)
high standards are a great thing. Mike Deane..NEVER FORGET.
Incredible power jump by silva... wow. Silva saved my bracket
maybe...
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 17, 2011, 02:48:45 PM
high standards are a great thing. Mike Deane..NEVER FORGET.
It will be repeated on message boards around the country not only during the tournament but throughout the season. That's the nature of fan message boards
I can't believe that "traditional" just missed the free throw. Elisha Justice - a traditional that shoots 61.2% from the Free Throw line?? How can that be?
ul will have to foul, down 2, and shot clock off--ouch--my bad mst was down 2 --now up 1---ignore this one--doh!!
NO F.Cing way. f.ck.
HAHAHA YES!!!! NICE SHOT
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 17, 2011, 02:51:40 PM
It will be repeated on message boards around the country not only during the tournament but throughout the season. That's the nature of fan message boards
You're correct, but that makes it no less idiotic.
that is the worst...honestly didn't see that one coming...
SUCK ON THAT LOUISVILLE!!!!!
lol the worst, this is the best, f*ck brackets
Well if any BE were to lose---given our games with ul this year--I am glad it was them
All I can say is WOW. What a shot by that MH guy and what a block by Fareid. Bad loss for UL and the BE.
whoa. BEast not off to a strong start. Come on Pitt redeem the conference. 50 point blow out.
how many big east teams made it past the second round last year?
Louisville lossed. I am not aware that the big east loss somehow.
The Ville got jobbed. Pitino gets some payback for being a lowlife.What a chump
Quote from: [Mu]EngiNerd on March 17, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
Incredible power jump by silva... wow. Silva saved my bracket
I thought Silva saved them also......not. Bad bracket for me.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 17, 2011, 02:46:12 PM
Look how many people "quit" on the team 2 minutes ago and now UL is up
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755
So, does the fact that Louisville has some fans who are knee jerk frontrunners who act like children and quit on their team justifiy our fans who are knee jerk frontrunners who act like children and quit on our team?
Just ruined my bracket but I don't care. I love seeing Louisville lose. Might even be better than a Bucky loss.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2011, 02:54:42 PM
You're correct, but that makes it no less idiotic.
Emotions cause a lot of idiocy
Quote from: nyg on March 17, 2011, 02:56:28 PM
All I can say is WOW. What a shot by that MH guy and what a block by Fareid. Bad loss for UL and the BE.
Fareid fouled
;D
sweet
Kind of embarrassing for the big east
very bad bracket for me now... damn you LoserVille
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 17, 2011, 02:58:19 PM
Emotions cause a lot of idiocy
Idiots will generally find excuses (reasons) for acting like idiots. I guess emotion is as good a one as any.
Think we can pick up Pitino after L'ville lets him go tomorrow?
Pitino done in by more head again.
(Not original)
yeah, only two big east teams made it past the second round last year. Have another year like that this year and people will start talking about big east being overrated.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 17, 2011, 03:03:16 PM
Idiots will generally find excuses (reasons) for acting like idiots. I guess emotion is as good a one as any.
Or some people are not idiots 99% of the time but act like one 1% of the time. Always glad to hear the psychological answers. ;)
Quote from: groove on March 17, 2011, 03:05:35 PM
yeah, only two big east teams made it past the second round last year. Have another year like that this year and people will start talking about big east being overrated.
1 win = 3rd round now :D
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on March 17, 2011, 03:02:03 PM
Kind of embarrassing for the big east
With 11 teams in, there are going to be some that go down. Losing one player before the game and Knowles during the game did not help.
Big Ten just lost their first entrant as well.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 17, 2011, 02:44:07 PM
Pitino's too good a coach.
Perhaps Rick needs to hire an offensive assistant to help him draw up better plays out of timeouts?
Rick's offense is a lot better than our d. some 30 teams better.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 17, 2011, 03:06:07 PM
Or some people are not idiots 99% of the time but act like one 1% of the time. Always glad to hear the psychological answers. ;)
That 99% to 1% number is a much greater than even a vast majority requires. Be careful ;D
Seriously, though, I don't think the "My team lost so I'm not responsible for how I act" excuse is valid. Psychology has nothing to do with that.
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on March 17, 2011, 03:00:23 PM
Marra would've choked anyway.
That's not possible..Marra is a traditional - other than his many tattoos. Unfortunately, the traditional before him - Justice - the 61.2% FT shooter couldn't hit the front end of a 1 and 1.
I wonder if L'ville practices free throws? Perhaps they need to recruit more non-traditionals like Faried who went to the line down 4, and knocked 2 in...to set up the game winning 3.
Louisville shot 43.8% on free throws. They should practice them!
I'm happy we don't act like Louisville fans when we lose a game we should win...
Quote from: Ners on March 17, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
That's not possible..Marra is a traditional - other than his many tattoos. Unfortunately, the traditional before him - Justice - the 61.2% FT shooter couldn't hit the front end of a 1 and 1.
I wonder if L'ville practices free throws? Perhaps they need to recruit more non-traditionals like Faried who went to the line down 4, and knocked 2 in...to set up the game winning 3.
Justice and Marra are traditional? Why?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 17, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
That 99% to 1% number is a much greater than even a vast majority requires. Be careful ;D
Seriously, though, I don't think the "My team lost so I'm not responsible for how I act" excuse is valid. Psychology has nothing to do with that.
People often can't control their emotions in times where they are are too high or too low when watching sports...that makes if very psychological IMO. How often at work do you shout out when you hear good news vs what someone does watching or attending a game during a good play...just one example of many. Emotion is the core of being a fan and leads fans to often do things they don't during the other parts of their lives..."that vast majority" part of their lives.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 17, 2011, 02:58:56 PM
Fareid fouled
Looked like a great block to me. I'm glad he wasn't bailed out on what would've been a very questionable call.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 17, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
So, does the fact that Louisville has some fans who are knee jerk frontrunners who act like children and quit on their team justifiy our fans who are knee jerk frontrunners who act like children and quit on our team?
Lenny, would you describe the children and quitting a canine type whizzing?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 17, 2011, 03:36:48 PM
Justice and Marra are traditional? Why?
Because they look very much like Wisconsin Badgers. Good shooters from the field. Fundamentally sound. White. What else do you need? You are their biggest advocate!!
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 17, 2011, 03:20:51 PM
Rick's offense is a lot better than our d. some 30 teams better.
It was a tounge in cheek comment as I'm sure you were aware Stone Cold. Point is sometimes other teams/players just make plays - not always the coaches fault..not that you were one here who was all over Buzz back in our funk...
Lville up 4 with less than 40 seconds to play and lose? Is that Pitino's fault? I think not.
Marra has too many tats.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 17, 2011, 03:49:08 PM
Marra has too many tats.
Good point..and I did qualify that slightly above in the thread.
Justice is a scrub who should have never touched the ball in that situation and MHS made the correct foul. He did hit a big three (what his only 3rd of the year). If Knowles in game, different story.
One injury too many. Game changed when Knowles went out. One gone from the BEast, one gone from the B1?
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 17, 2011, 03:04:52 PM
Think we can pick up Pitino after L'ville lets him go tomorrow?
Power Dinner at Porcini
Quote from: Ners on March 17, 2011, 03:50:12 PM
Good point..and I did qualify that slightly above in the thread.
So why are Justice and Marra defined as traditional?
The Commonwealth of Kentucky is not liking today right now. Kentucky tied with Princeton with about 35 seconds left.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 17, 2011, 04:05:02 PM
So why are Justice and Marra defined as traditional?
I provided an answer to you previously in this thread - but I'm pretty sure you are more than capable of identifying why they are traditional: good shooters from the field, fundamentally sound, resemble Wisconsin Badger players, and they are white.
Did I really need to lay this out to you a 2nd time, when you are the board's resident expert on traditional recruiting?!!
Bilas Tweeted:
In ESPN Bracket Challenge, only 4.5% of of 5.9 million entrants picked Morehead State over UL. It was an upset, to us and to 95.5% of YOU!
Thought it would be interesting to share.
I recognize Louisville is a rival. But why would you cheer for a Big East Team to go down so early!
Marra's line: 0-4 from 3. I think that makes him something like 0-every attempt since the MU game. (sigh)
On the plus side, can't get enough of those Morehead/Pitino jokes! I think I'll crash the L-Ville board and post a few! :D
Quote from: Ners on March 17, 2011, 04:17:07 PM
I provided an answer to you previously in this thread - but I'm pretty sure you are more than capable of identifying why they are traditional: good shooters from the field, fundamentally sound, resemble Wisconsin Badger players, and they are white.
Did I really need to lay this out to you a 2nd time, when you are the board's resident expert on traditional recruiting?!!
Ahh...thank you, don't recall seeing it but I'll go and check it out. I don't define traditional with an ethnicity, race or anything else about the player, why are you doing that? Why is race such an issue with your definition?
Justice isn't fundamentally sound....he's a poor free throw shooter and a poor 3 point shooter, nothing fundamental about him at all.
I think you and others on this board confuse "traditional" with what you perceive to be some odd vision of some little white kid running around. As I've stated from the beginning, I would define Wesley Matthews as traditional Steve Novak, Travis Diener, etc...smart players that do the traditional things like shoot, pass, make free throws as fitting my traditional definition. Last I checked, not all those guys are white, or Asian, or African American, or Hispanic, etc....
Quote from: Ners on March 17, 2011, 03:45:03 PM
Because they look very much like Wisconsin Badgers. Good shooters from the field. Fundamentally sound. White. What else do you need? You are their biggest advocate!!
I'm the biggest advocate of fundamentally sound players....white, black, green, purple doesn't matter. Taylor of Wisconsin is an extremely fundamentally sound player. Tell me again if he's white?
Nice straw man you got going there ners, but not surprised at all.
By the way, is Justice a "good shooter" because he's white and he fits YOUR definition of traditional? I think he's anything but fundamentally sound. 61% FT shooter, 25% 3Point shooter...below 35% overall. Exactly why do YOU think he's fundamental or even a good shooter? The stats don't say that...must be YOUR definition of traditional which certainly isn't mine. Too bad race is such a key issue with your definition.
Marra...same story...28.5% 3-point shooter, below 33% overall, but he is a good FT shooter so he fits one of the criteria.
Weird that you would call them both good shooters when they clearly aren't. Weird. Something tells me you were trying to make a point but missed very very badly. Try again.
And now 'Ville fans are turning on a former player in Terrence Williams who was tweeting during the game. Lol.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=7325788
http://twitter.com/therealtwill
Chicos - I'm all for MU/Buzz recruiting Top 50-Top 100 players such as Novak, Diener and Matthews. DJO and Jimmy Butler's 3 point and FT shooting percentage has been right on par with Wes Matthews. Not too many 3 point shooters out there like Novak...
Did you have an issue with the recruitment of Dominic James and Jerel McNeal? After all neither were very good FT shooters or FG% shooters over their careers - yet they are in the Top 5 all time at MU in scoring.
But yes...I do equate a "traditional" player to generally be white...particularily when defined by you and your frequent desire for MU to field a team more like UW.
Quote from: Ners on March 17, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
Chicos - I'm all for MU/Buzz recruiting Top 50-Top 100 players such as Novak, Diener and Matthews. DJO and Jimmy Butler's 3 point and FT shooting percentage has been right on par with Wes Matthews. Not too many 3 point shooters out there like Novak...
Did you have an issue with the recruitment of Dominic James and Jerel McNeal? After all neither were very good FT shooters or FG% shooters over their careers - yet they are in the Top 5 all time at MU in scoring.
But yes...I do equate a "traditional" player to generally be white...particularily when defined by you and your frequent desire for MU to field a team more like UW.
Then you are under a terrible assumption since I don't equate traditional to white. Never have. Best player on UW, isn't white. Would I love a John Leuer? Hell yes...he is white. Who cares what race.
Do I have an issue with the recruitment of DJ and McNeal...depends who else is on the team and what position they play. DJ, no real issue. He was a point guard and a scorer, not a shooter. It did trouble me greatly his FT shooting, although that only got real bad his last year (first with Buzz). A PG needs to shoot FT's at least 65% if not 70% since the ball is in his hands at the end of a game.
With McNeal...great player...drove me crazy. I think you look at this stuff as a zero sum game as if we didn't have McNeal we would have no one in his place. For me to answer your question, I have to know what different guy we got instead in order to answer it.
Personally, I'd like to have a team that has various pieces that can beat a team a number of ways. Inside, outside, the dribble drive, defensively. Maybe I'm asking for too much, but I feel like we don't have 2 of those 4...at least not consistently.
I'd love a traditional point guard like Taylor....in a heartbeat. Give me another traditional player like Novak, Matthews, Diener and throw in a non-traditional like DJ...fantastic.
Great to see "Pretty Rick" and 'LOSERVILLE' get theirs, to bad Princeton couldn't pull it off against Kentucky. That would be two "CHEATERS" out.
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the blonde in this picture makes me regret my school Choice
...
I do too sweetheart
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 17, 2011, 05:34:04 PM
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the blonde in this picture makes me regret my school Choice
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I do too sweetheart
life is good!
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 17, 2011, 05:34:04 PM
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the blonde in this picture makes me regret my school Choice
And here I thought you had your eye on the big dude wearing the Morehead Cheerleading shirt. ;)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 17, 2011, 03:39:43 PM
People often can't control their emotions in times where they are are too high or too low when watching sports...that makes if very psychological IMO. How often at work do you shout out when you hear good news vs what someone does watching or attending a game during a good play...just one example of many. Emotion is the core of being a fan and leads fans to often do things they don't during the other parts of their lives..."that vast majority" part of their lives.
Your point recalls, Oscar Wyatt, a wealthy oil trader, who has a saying, .."my money doesnt cry". The primary reward and purpose of most business is monetary and measurable.
The only reward of sports fandom is emotional, and non monetary. The measure of a fan's response, by definition of its currency, is an emotional reward/ or loss. Those who invest much in being a fan should be totally excused for any response, whether emotional or appearing "idiotic" to others(a misnomer term, as idiocy relates to intelligence, not emotion)---as a fan ....its personal---not business (reverse Godfather reference-lol)
Quote from: houwarrior on March 17, 2011, 06:33:36 PM
Your point recalls, Oscar Wyatt, a wealthy oil trader, who has a saying, .."my money doesnt cry". The primary reward and purpose of most business is monetary and measurable.
The only reward of sports fandom is emotional, and non monetary. The measure of a fan's response, by definition of its currency, is an emotional reward/ or loss. Those who invest much in being a fan should be totally excused for any response, whether emotional or appearing "idiotic" to others(a misnomer term, as idiocy relates to intelligence, not emotion)---as a fan ....its personal---not business (reverse Godfather reference-lol)
Agree entirely...but obviously Lenny disagrees.
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 17, 2011, 05:34:04 PM
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the blonde in this picture makes me regret my school Choice
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I do too sweetheart
This blonde is better.
nm
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on March 17, 2011, 07:30:08 PM
This blonde is better.
always thought he should take it to the hole more so he could free up more space for his outside shot