I hate Huggy Bear
Quote from: 1001 N. 4th St. on March 17, 2011, 11:49:32 AM
I hate Huggy Bear
Actually, that is a 2nd round thought.... ;D
Down 8 to Clemson.
WVU nice 9-0 run to end half tied at 40.
Don't ever bet against a bear.
Clemson-WVU has been a great game so far. Hard to root for WVU, but would love to see the BEast represent.
Quote from: Benny B on March 17, 2011, 12:10:52 PM
Don't ever bet against a bear.
Or a Belmont Bruin - at least today
Really, Louisville? This is just pathetic to watch. Way to represent the Big East, Cardinals :-\
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
Really, Louisville? This is just pathetic to watch. Way to represent the Big East, Cardinals :-\
agreed. i know it's early, but come on. too bad they couldn't shoot like this against us...
Anyone watching the Louisville game? Is Morehead playing great defense or is Louisville just shooting bricks?
Quote from: BME to MD on March 17, 2011, 01:20:07 PMAnyone watching the Louisville game? Is Morehead playing great defense or is Louisville just shooting bricks?
Louisville's shooting is bad, but what's really killing them is a dose of their own medicine. Morehead State is clamping down with a great full-court press. Won't help now that Siva has three fouls in the first half. They need to stop turning the ball over and trim down on the fouls. Morehead State simply looks like the better team.
EDIT: Also, Faried is killing them on the offensive glass. I remember hearing before the tourney that he was probably the best mid-major player in the country. He looks like it today.
Clemson just blew it with back to back turnovers at mid-court with 1:30 to go.
Thanks Brew. ESPN is still showing Siva with 2 fouls - must be delayed.
Quote from: BME to MD on March 17, 2011, 01:30:16 PM
Thanks Brew. ESPN is still showing Siva with 2 fouls - must be delayed.
http://www.ncaa.com/scoreboards/basketball-men/d1/2011/03/17
Has been close to live. The details page has been good so far too for every game.
Well, there goes my perfect bracket, took all of one game. At least it was a Big East team winning that upset my bracket.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
Well, there goes my perfect bracket, took all of one game. At least it was a Big East team winning that upset my bracket.
I'm still perfect, but maybe only for another few minutes. Come on, ODU...
Wow! What a finish by Butler. And I'm 0-2...not boding well for my brackets.
That Butler win just screwed some. Some of the "experts" thought ODU would beat Pitt. Hah.
All of that in the first half, and no:
"Pitino's having problems with Morehead"
"Pitino struggling against Morehead"
"Pitino just can't figure out how to get to Morehead."
C'mon Raferty... show some humor here.
Louisville starting to look like they'll pull this out, but man, that Faried is a really, really damn good player. Exactly the kind of guy Marquette could use. Incredibly strong in the post, good defender, and an unbelievable rebounder. I'd kill for a guy like that with our Warriors.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 02:23:14 PM
Louisville starting to look like they'll pull this out, but man, that Faried is a really, really damn good player. Exactly the kind of guy Marquette could use. Incredibly strong in the post, good defender, and an unbelievable rebounder. I'd kill for a guy like that with our Warriors.
Yep, and we had one. Too bad he was a headcase
Roseboro?
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 02:23:14 PM
Louisville starting to look like they'll pull this out, but man, that Faried is a really, really damn good player. Exactly the kind of guy Marquette could use. Incredibly strong in the post, good defender, and an unbelievable rebounder. I'd kill for a guy like that with our Warriors.
I almost think you are joking, given the physical (especially hairstyle) and game similarities between he and Jae Crowder. I really hope Jae is watching this game and thinking, "I can become a double-double machine like Faried."
Butler buzzer beater
Morehead buzzer beater
Temple buzzer beater.
Kentucky only up 1 at half.
And it is just starting. Besides brackets, this is AWESOME.
Quote from: mug644 on March 17, 2011, 02:51:18 PMI almost think you are joking, given the physical (especially hairstyle) and game similarities between he and Jae Crowder. I really hope Jae is watching this game and thinking, "I can become a double-double machine like Faried."
I really like Crowder, but he's nowhere near as good as Faried inside. But this is a guy averaging 17.6/14.5 on the season. Hard for anyone to match that.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 03:17:14 PM
I really like Crowder, but he's nowhere near as good as Faried inside. But this is a guy averaging 17.6/14.5 on the season. Hard for anyone to match that.
Right, and any team would like a player like Faried. Watching him play, though, I was struck by the similarities with Crowder, and was fascinated by the idea that Crowder could have those kinds of numbers. Maybe it's easier for me to dream about one of our own guys developing that way than it is to believe that one will just arrive. Anyway, we are thinking the same way.
This has nothing to do with anything but I am surprised Chico has not yet posted it since he claims to speak Japanese...the abbreviation for Northern Colorado appears to be UNCO...this is the Japanese male vernacular for crap. I could help but laugh everytime I see that on the ESPN bracket...
Quote from: warthog-driver on March 17, 2011, 03:51:06 PM
This has nothing to do with anything but I am surprised Chico has not yet posted it since he claims to speak Japanese...the abbreviation for Northern Colorado appears to be UNCO...this is the Japanese male vernacular for crap. I could help but laugh everytime I see that on the ESPN bracket...
Warthog - a bit off topic here but, might I please request a very positive Haiku tomorrow prior to our victory? Thanks.
Does anyone know where the UK v Princeton game is being held? The floor says USF (and I know they were doing a renovation) but the areana looks different. Even this year the Bulls played in a complete dump and if this is it they did a great job. It really looks great.
Quote from: buzzchiapet on March 17, 2011, 04:00:45 PM
Does anyone know where the UK v Princeton game is being held? The floor says USF (and I know they were doing a renovation) but the areana looks different. Even this year the Bulls played in a complete dump and if this is it they did a great job. It really looks great.
Tampa
Brandon Knight goes 0 for 7 from field, then makes an awesome play to win game.
How many more buzzer shots are there today. Insanely good television.
Quote from: warthog-driver on March 17, 2011, 03:51:06 PM
This has nothing to do with anything but I am surprised Chico has not yet posted it since he claims to speak Japanese...the abbreviation for Northern Colorado appears to be UNCO...this is the Japanese male vernacular for crap. I could help but laugh everytime I see that on the ESPN bracket...
1) I thought you were ignoring my posts? Sad to see you not honor your code....or color me equally surprised.
2) I said I took several years of Japanese in college and graduate school. I also took several years of Spanish and lived in Peru for two years and Panama for two years. That doesn't mean I'm running around the house saying Hola or Konichiwa to my kids whenever I see them.
Quote from: buzzchiapet on March 17, 2011, 04:15:38 PM
Yes but is it South Floridas arena?
No. USF is just the host.
Rick Pitino says after Morehead St. game "Wes Unseld isn't walking thru that door boys"
Quote from: mug644 on March 17, 2011, 03:22:40 PM
Right, and any team would like a player like Faried. Watching him play, though, I was struck by the similarities with Crowder, and was fascinated by the idea that Crowder could have those kinds of numbers. Maybe it's easier for me to dream about one of our own guys developing that way than it is to believe that one will just arrive. Anyway, we are thinking the same way.
Crowder is nothing compared to Faried. He's not nearly as athletic/talented and not nearly as aggressive. Crowder has often been a non-factor for MU during the second-half of this season.
He's an average college basketball player...nothing more and nothing less.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 17, 2011, 05:41:11 PM
Crowder is nothing compared to Faried. He's not nearly as athletic/talented and not nearly as aggressive. Crowder has often been a non-factor for MU during the second-half of this season.
He's an average college basketball player...nothing more and nothing less.
His stats would indicate he is a little better than average. Average would be, say, Joe Fulce. The third best player on a top 50 team is not an "average college basketball player". In fact, what a stupid comment.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 17, 2011, 05:41:11 PM
Crowder is nothing compared to Faried. He's not nearly as athletic/talented and not nearly as aggressive. Crowder has often been a non-factor for MU during the second-half of this season.
He's an average college basketball player...nothing more and nothing less.
Calm down genius. It was his first year playing Div 1, and he dominated at times in easily the best conference in NCAA, (ask WVU).
Regardless of how he compares to Faried, you're post is nonsense. Par for the course though, so I'll credit you for being consistent.
Why is everyone so grumpy? its NCAA tournament time... great games and good times
Vanderbilt forums are on suicide watch after losing in the first round 3 straight years.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 17, 2011, 05:50:15 PM
Vanderbilt forums are on suicide watch after losing in the first round 3 straight years.
Tough way to go out. Terrible play there to end it thought. Didn't even get a shot off when they had three seconds from half court.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 17, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Tough way to go out. Terrible play there to end it thought. Didn't even get a shot off when they had three seconds from half court.
Looked oddly familiar, didn't it?
TruTV not in HD is stupid, but I like the 4 channel setup
Quote from: Warriors10 on March 17, 2011, 05:55:07 PM
TruTV not in HD is stupid, but I like the 4 channel setup
Wish there was a basic channel that had all 4 on one screen :-D
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 17, 2011, 05:57:06 PM
Wish there was a basic channel that had all 4 on one screen :-D
Me too....some innovative company did that for the last 8 years but the NCAA decided this year not to do it. Go figure.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 17, 2011, 05:50:15 PM
Vanderbilt forums are on suicide watch after losing in the first round 3 straight years.
And some recommend Stallings as a Buzz replacement if he leaves.
Holy #$@%^! How can Badger fans enjoy this????
Badgers are 5-12 on FG's so far in the first half. At this rate they MIGHT end the first half with less than 15 FG attempts.
I have got to find my wife's knitting needles so I can poke out my eyes.
Quote from: lurch91 on March 17, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
Holy #$@%^! How can Badger fans enjoy this????
Badgers are 5-12 on FG's so far in the first half. At this rate they MIGHT end the first half with less than 15 FG attempts.
I have got to find my wife's knitting needles so I can poke out my eyes.
The game is starting to heat up, though. I turned my head for 5 minutes and I missed a basket. They may win, but damn they are difficult to watch.
So Wisconsin is painful to watch. If they win, at least their fans get to celebrate a victory.
If MU's athleticism leads to a loss tomorrow, what good did being aesthetically pleasing get them?
Give me an NCAA win and I'm happy, regardless of how painful the game was to watch.
I'll never understand the bitching about how Wisconsin plays, when they've achieved much more than MU in recent years.
Quote from: nyg on March 17, 2011, 06:59:48 PM
And some recommend Stallings as a Buzz replacement if he leaves.
I would again in a New York second. Recruiting to Vanderbilt, one of the premier educational institutions in the USA, is a tough gig. This is university that doesn't even have an athletic department.
If Buzz leaves, I'd be all over the Stallings bandwagon. Midwest ties, solid recruiter, smart basketball, etc, etc.
Quote from: lurch91 on March 17, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
Holy #$@%^! How can Badger fans enjoy this????
Badgers are 5-12 on FG's so far in the first half. At this rate they MIGHT end the first half with less than 15 FG attempts.
I have got to find my wife's knitting needles so I can poke out my eyes.
They win.
Quote from: lurch91 on March 17, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
Holy #$@%^! How can Badger fans enjoy this????
Badgers are 5-12 on FG's so far in the first half. At this rate they MIGHT end the first half with less than 15 FG attempts.
I have got to find my wife's knitting needles so I can poke out my eyes.
I agree, they are an awful team to watch. What I find funny is all the announcers talking about how good they are defensively. But they aren't good defensively. They're about on par with Marquette, and we are definitely not a good defensive team. But because they play so damn slow and end up in low scoring contests as a result, everyone is convinced they are good on defense. #64 in the country is NOT good on defense, especially when you are in a tournament that should feature the 68 best teams in the country (theoretically).
Quote from: willie wampum on March 17, 2011, 07:19:51 PM
So Wisconsin is painful to watch. If they win, at least their fans get to celebrate a victory.
If MU's athleticism leads to a loss tomorrow, what good did being aesthetically pleasing get them?
Give me an NCAA win and I'm happy, regardless of how painful the game was to watch.
I'll never understand the bitching about how Wisconsin plays, when they've achieved much more than MU in recent years.
Be a Badger fan then you negative Nancy.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 17, 2011, 07:19:51 PM
So Wisconsin is painful to watch. If they win, at least their fans get to celebrate a victory.
If MU's athleticism leads to a loss tomorrow, what good did being aesthetically pleasing get them?
Give me an NCAA win and I'm happy, regardless of how painful the game was to watch.
I'll never understand the bitching about how Wisconsin plays, when they've achieved much more than MU in recent years.
If calling UW difficult to watch is "bitching", what should we call your constant drumbeat against MU? "Bitching" would be FAR too soft a word.
Quote from: MUMac on March 17, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
If calling UW difficult to watch is "bitching", what should we call your constant drumbeat against MU? "Bitching" would be FAR too soft a word.
You can call it being realistic.
MU was a .500 team in conference play and finished in 11th place.
That pales in comparison to what UW achieved and they also appear comfortably poised to win their first round NCAA game.
Give me those "traditional" ballplayers who have the high BB IQ over someone who thinks going 1 on 3 on a fast break is a smart play, or over a guy who refuses to run out the clock with a lead and instead tries to drive in for a contested layup and helps lead MU to a loss that carried over for the rest of the season.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 17, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
You can call it being realistic.
MU was a .500 team in conference play and finished in 11th place.
That pales in comparison to what UW achieved and they also appear comfortably poised to win their first round NCAA game.
Give me those "traditional" ballplayers who have the high BB IQ over someone who thinks going 1 on 3 on a fast break is a smart play, or over a guy who refuses to run out the clock with a lead and instead tries to drive in for a contested layup and helps lead MU to a loss that carried over for the rest of the season.
Nah, that's bitching.
Refs protecting Wisconsin players like they're their virgin daughters.
Quote from: karavotsos on March 17, 2011, 08:16:31 PM
Refs protecting Wisconsin players like they're their virgin daughters.
What game are you watching? ?-(
UW is up by 16 right now so it wouldn't matter anyways.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
I agree, they are an awful team to watch. What I find funny is all the announcers talking about how good they are defensively. But they aren't good defensively. They're about on par with Marquette, and we are definitely not a good defensive team. But because they play so damn slow and end up in low scoring contests as a result, everyone is convinced they are good on defense. #64 in the country is NOT good on defense, especially when you are in a tournament that should feature the 68 best teams in the country (theoretically).
I agree completely. They aren't a good defensive team this year. The reason though that they're still a really good team is because they're better then usual on offense mainly because Taylor has taken his game to another level.
Speaking of Taylor, is he NBA bound or will MU have to deal with him again next season as a senior?
Quote from: WarriorHal on March 17, 2011, 08:39:06 PM
Speaking of Taylor, is he NBA bound or will MU have to deal with him again next season as a senior?
He's a lock to come back.
Quote from: WarriorHal on March 17, 2011, 08:39:06 PM
Speaking of Taylor, is he NBA bound or will MU have to deal with him again next season as a senior?
Been wondering this for the past month, myself. I would expect that he will put his name in to get the feedback. I would guess it depends upon what he hears from the NBA.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 17, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Tough way to go out. Terrible play there to end it thought. Didn't even get a shot off when they had three seconds from half court.
Didn't get a shot off in either of their last two possessions. Totally disorganized.
Quote from: WarriorHal on March 17, 2011, 08:39:06 PMSpeaking of Taylor, is he NBA bound or will MU have to deal with him again next season as a senior?
I think he goes. He has a decent chance of being a first round pick and his stock will never be higher. Staying makes no sense for him.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 08:43:06 PM
I think he goes. He has a decent chance of being a first round pick and his stock will never be higher. Staying makes no sense for him.
What makes you think he'll have a chance to be a 1st round pick?
EDIT: Especially since a lot of people think there is a chance he won't be drafted at all.
Quote from: whodem on March 17, 2011, 08:25:22 PM
What game are you watching? ?-(
UW is up by 16 right now so it wouldn't matter anyways.
The game in which they were calling handchecks on the perimeter that were unwarranted. Fouls whenever a Belmont player slapped at the ball. Fouls on guys fighting through screens. A missed charge call on Taylor at the end of the first half and Leuer in the second half. Both at big times.
And Belmont was not what the national media promised. They stunk. I feel cheated on that game.
Quote from: karavotsos on March 17, 2011, 08:48:20 PM
A missed charge call on Taylor at the end of the first half and Leuer in the second half.
On Taylor's play, the defender came off his man and was under the basket. That is the rule change they made last year. I don't like it, because each official interprets it differently. I wish they would have the dotted line that the NBA uses. That would make it more consistent and also take some of the confussion away from the fans on those calls.
Quote from: whodem on March 17, 2011, 08:47:23 PMWhat makes you think he'll have a chance to be a 1st round pick?
Production. He may not be as quick as a guy like Walker, but he has great range and is arguably the safest ball-handler in the country (his TO rate is 2nd in the nation to Crowder, but he's a point). He's not as long as you'd like, but once you get to the latter half of the first round, teams are usually only looking for developers and backups. Taylor could be a decent backup for a playoff team with his ability to shoot off the bench and smartly manage a game. And smart is his main attribute. He knows the game and plays it the right way. He won't beat his own team. And considering how good he's been this year, does he want to risk the possible drop in his stock without having Leuer as a safety valve?
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2011, 08:56:55 PM
Production. He may not be as quick as a guy like Walker, but he has great range and is arguably the safest ball-handler in the country (his TO rate is 2nd in the nation to Crowder, but he's a point). He's not as long as you'd like, but once you get to the latter half of the first round, teams are usually only looking for developers and backups. Taylor could be a decent backup for a playoff team with his ability to shoot off the bench and smartly manage a game. And smart is his main attribute. He knows the game and plays it the right way. He won't beat his own team. And considering how good he's been this year, does he want to risk the possible drop in his stock without having Leuer as a safety valve?
Point well made, but I don't think his stock will drop at all even without a guy like Leuer there mainly because his stock still isn't high anyways. The guy even with a great year is projected to be a late 2nd round to undrafted pick. A majority of NBA teams see the guy as a lifelong backup PG, and the NBA would rather have a guy that could be great rather then a guy who's already proven to be a solid player. This is one of the biggest reasons NBA teams miss on so many guys. They draft almost completely based on potential and that's why you guys like Favors picked in the top 5.
Quote from: MUMac on March 17, 2011, 08:52:03 PM
On Taylor's play, the defender came off his man and was under the basket. That is the rule change they made last year. I don't like it, because each official interprets it differently. I wish they would have the dotted line that the NBA uses. That would make it more consistent and also take some of the confussion away from the fans on those calls.
I was stunned they didn't have the charge circle, and I said it at the beginning of the year. That rule change that you refer to I don't think is really a rule change, it just gives the ref another excuse to make whatever call he wants to make. I didn't think the guy was close to under the basket.
It looks like Taylor is relying on the chicken wing and shoulder dip a lot more now. After watching this year, I have no idea what contact a dribbler is allowed to make with his off arm.
I hope Pullen crushes him.
Cincinnati looking good. I thought they were pretenders all year. Looks like I was wrong. Had Mizzou winning in my bracket.
On another note, I hurt a little every time Kim English is mentioned.
Real bummer with St. John's here. They're a really, really good team with DJ Kennedy. They're just a good team without him. Zags are currently handing it to the Johnnies. Too bad.
UCLA may blow a 23 point lead with 6 minntes left (approximations).
Quote from: KC2016 on March 17, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
UCLA may blow a 23 point lead with 6 minntes left (approximations).
Almost did. Man, what a rough day on the bracket.
Cincy v. UConn is the travesty of round 2. If you're going to do that put a potential Wisconsin v. Purdue in Round 3, at least. No one wants to watch more of that Big 10 nonsense than necessary.
Cronin moved up a notch in my book this year. That puts him at notch one.
Quote from: whodem on March 17, 2011, 09:01:33 PM
Point well made, but I don't think his stock will drop at all even without a guy like Leuer there mainly because his stock still isn't high anyways. The guy even with a great year is projected to be a late 2nd round to undrafted pick. A majority of NBA teams see the guy as a lifelong backup PG, and the NBA would rather have a guy that could be great rather then a guy who's already proven to be a solid player. This is one of the biggest reasons NBA teams miss on so many guys. They draft almost completely based on potential and that's why you guys like Favors picked in the top 5.
If Taylor came out this year, i really doubt that he'd get picked late 2nd or go undrafted. I could easily see one of the winning and smart franchises buy an early 2nd round pick and grab Taylor.
Reason being is that even if Taylor only maxed out as a solid backup PG, a team is getting a backup PG on the cheap by paying only 2nd round money to Taylor.
Look at when the Spurs drafted Blair in the 2nd round. They likely didn't view him as a starting player material, but as a backup who is part of the rotation, they get a guy who contributes and only have to pay him 900,000 dollars a year vs a few million a year or more for a veteran backup PF. This not only saves them actual dollars, it saves millions on the cap to use on their key players.
If you're one of the bad teams though, those teams generally have to reach more for upside because they lack the talent to win.
Quote from: El Duderino on March 17, 2011, 11:10:09 PM
If Taylor came out this year, i really doubt that he'd get picked late 2nd or go undrafted. I could easily see one of the winning and smart franchises buy an early 2nd round pick and grab Taylor.
Reason being is that even if Taylor only maxed out as a solid backup PG, a team is getting a backup PG on the cheap by paying only 2nd round money to Taylor.
Look at when the Spurs drafted Blair in the 2nd round. They likely didn't view him as a starting player material, but as a backup who is part of the rotation, they get a guy who contributes and only have to pay him 900,000 dollars a year vs a few million a year or more for a veteran backup PF. This not only saves them actual dollars, it saves millions on the cap to use on their key players.
If you're one of the bad teams though, those teams generally have to reach more for upside because they lack the talent to win.
I disagree completely. Look at all of the Mock Draft's and they have the guy not drafted or a late 2nd round pick. I disagree completely with Blair comparison. He was projected as a top 15 pick, but feel because of him having no ACL's, and I think they did view him as a potential starter. The problem for him is though that nearly every scout views him as life long backup PG which is why he won't be picked hard. Not to mention the fact that he wants to stay in school, and get his degree.
Quote from: whodem on March 17, 2011, 11:34:49 PM
I disagree completely. Look at all of the Mock Draft's and they have the guy not drafted or a late 2nd round pick. I disagree completely with Blair comparison. He was projected as a top 15 pick, but feel because of him having no ACL's, and I think they did view him as a potential starter. The problem for him is though that nearly every scout views him as life long backup PG which is why he won't be picked hard. Not to mention the fact that he wants to stay in school, and get his degree.
I saw a couple tonight that had him second round, but most list him for 2012. Just glanced at four sites and all had him as a 2nd rounder, 3 had him in the first five picks. They keep him off 2011 lists strictly because they think he'll be back. I just don't see upside to him returning. He made All-American lists and was one of the best players in the Big Ten. I have to think he'll be a more appealing prospect at 21 than 22.
Quote from: whodem on March 17, 2011, 11:34:49 PM
I disagree completely. Look at all of the Mock Draft's and they have the guy not drafted or a late 2nd round pick. I disagree completely with Blair comparison. He was projected as a top 15 pick, but feel because of him having no ACL's, and I think they did view him as a potential starter. The problem for him is though that nearly every scout views him as life long backup PG which is why he won't be picked hard. Not to mention the fact that he wants to stay in school, and get his degree.
First of all, i don't care what the mock draft sites say, they consistently are way off on numerous players in every draft once you get outside the top 5-10 picks.
Besides that, nobody before the season expected Taylor to play anywhere near as good as he has this year. That factors into these mock drafts and draft sites. Plus, most are assuming he'll return for his senior year.
These sites though don't draft the players, NBA GM's do and this is a very weak draft overall, especially at point guard.
This conversation is likely a waste of time anyways because i expect Taylor to return for his senior year. If he did declare for the draft though, i'd gladly make a friendly wager with you that the farthest he'd drop was say pick 40, upper half in the first round.
Some great games today. Went 13/16 in my bracket (Louisville, Old Dominion, St John's). Overall a pretty good day, although I did have SJU and Ville in the sweet 16.
Quote from: karavotsos on March 17, 2011, 09:45:50 PM
I was stunned they didn't have the charge circle, and I said it at the beginning of the year. That rule change that you refer to I don't think is really a rule change, it just gives the ref another excuse to make whatever call he wants to make. I didn't think the guy was close to under the basket. It looks like Taylor is relying on the chicken wing and shoulder dip a lot more now. After watching this year, I have no idea what contact a dribbler is allowed to make with his off arm.
I hope Pullen crushes him.
It was a change to the rule last year. They did it to try and stop the collissions under the basket and protect the offensive player who is vulnerable and in the air.
The big east went 4-2 on its first day in the tourney... overachieved, about right or under achieved?
W - UCONN, CINCY, WV and PIT
L - JOHNNIES, LOSERVILLE
What does you think the outcome of these games will be?
MU, CUSE, GT, ND, NOVA
Quote from: [Mu]EngiNerd on March 18, 2011, 08:04:47 AM
The big east went 4-2 on its first day in the tourney... overachieved, about right or under achieved?
W - UCONN, CINCY, WV and PIT
L - JOHNNIES, LOSERVILLE
What does you think the outcome of these games will be?
MU, CUSE, GT, ND, NOVA
The Johnnies losing can be explained by the loss of Kennedy. The loss for Louisville, on the other hand, was not a good outcome.
Higher seeds in all instances, so it has to be underperforming to lose 2 of 6.
Quote from: [Mu]EngiNerd on March 18, 2011, 08:04:47 AMThe big east went 4-2 on its first day in the tourney... overachieved, about right or under achieved?
W - UCONN, CINCY, WV and PIT
L - JOHNNIES, LOSERVILLE
What does you think the outcome of these games will be?
MU, CUSE, GT, ND, NOVA
It wouldn't surprise me to see us go 5-0, though I wouldn't be shocked to see 2-3. Syracuse and Notre Dame should both win. MU/X is a toss-up, but I really like our match-up. I have to imagine both Georgetown and Villanova want to salvage some pride. Watching VCU, they're just bad. Even without Chris Wright G'Town should really roll them. I see them going through a Marquette 2009 experience, winning in the first round, then coming close but ultimately falling short against Purdue. 'Nova will come down to pride. They are undoubtedly more talented, the question is will they sack up and get a chance to face tOSU or will they just write off the season? In their past 5 games, they probably only lost to one team that is worse than GMU. I'd contend that Syracuse, a healthy St. John's, Notre Dame, and Pitt are all clearly better teams. So in reality, 'Nova really only had one true hiccup against USF. Now they need to remember who they are.
I'm pulling for 5-0, expecting someone to botch things and go 4-1. Either way, I'll be pulling for the Big Ten to lose today. 1-3 would be great, 2-2 would be more likely. Anything to shut those smug jerks up.
SJU couldn't overcome the loss of Kennedy, Louisville couldn't overcome the loss of Knowles down the stretch. The legend went out early. First Izzo team in ages to not overachieve, but dismissing two good guards leads to walk ons playing too many minutes as well as a lack of team identity. Belmont looked like a low major. They missed way too many open 3's and let Wiscy take way too many open 3's.
Just some of my thought of yesterday
Zags vs SJU Coming off a season not as strong I didnt expect Gonzaga to have a field day shooting. Watching SJ's all year I have never watched them play like yesterday. Even without Kennedy they played well vs Cuse.
MSU vs UCLA Reliving Louisville
USU vs KSU Really thought Utah St was going to pull this one off. They played a great 2nd half but the other was sloppy(x2). Stupid turnovers certainly lost them this one. However, I wish they played some more competition to ready for the tournament. Even just to help their RPI would be great for them. They are a ranked team at a 12 seed. Ouch. However, props to KSU for coming out stong, and (about to) beating Wis.
Bucknell vs Uconn I am tired of hearing how these young guys cant play 3+ consecutive days at MSG. If thats the case, I'd like to see the Huskies boot camp. They came out really strong and I was pulling for the Bison to put up a little fight. No one knew who they were and seeing them earlier this year got me thinking. Guess not.
Maymon has got to be really pissed about the decision he made last year. Dude hasn't even seen a minute in Tennessee's game today. Haha, that's what greedy bastards get.
Not to mention they are kicked their face kicked in. Down 30. Ouchhh.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 18, 2011, 08:23:30 AM
Even without Chris Wright G'Town should really roll them.
Don't know if this has been posted yet but the ND announcers just said that Chris Wright was going to play today.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on March 18, 2011, 02:31:12 PMDon't know if this has been posted yet but the ND announcers just said that Chris Wright was going to play today.
Not sure yet how much, though. Will he be the Chris Wright of 6 weeks ago, or will it be like James coming back against Missouri?
Is 'Nova going to choke this away? Had a 6-point lead, then gave up an 8-0 run. Fisher at the line after being fouled on a 3 to potentially give them the lead.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 18, 2011, 01:32:02 PM
Maymon has got to be really pissed about the decision he made last year. Dude hasn't even seen a minute in Tennessee's game today. Haha, that's what greedy bastards get.
Not to mention they are kicked their face kicked in. Down 30. Ouchhh.
Actually, he got 1 minute. Grabbed 2 rebounds and missed 2 FTs. A lot of work in a short period of time.
Quote from: MUMac on March 18, 2011, 06:09:10 AM
It was a change to the rule last year. They did it to try and stop the collissions under the basket and protect the offensive player who is vulnerable and in the air.
If that was truly the case, then there would be a charge circle. Instead, there's simply another out for a ref. He can simply say, 'too far under the basket' without a clear reference point, unless someone is truly standing directly under the basket, which is generally not the case.
Too much room for interpretation and not enough accountability makes for inconsistent reffing, which is the worst kind of reffing. I blame the system. Jimmer Burr is simply a symptom-a flaming hemorrhoid of a symptom-but still just a symptom.