In the Bracket Project, Va Tech was in 87 of 89 brackets....same as MU. Colorado was in 81 of 89 and they didn't get in.
USC, by the way, was in only 29 of 89 but got in.
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So you are trying to say that the bracketologists got it wrong, or the committee?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 14, 2011, 04:42:31 AM
So you are trying to say that the bracketologists got it wrong, or the committee?
Obviously most of the bracketologists did on that one. There is only one selection comittee.
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Quote from: willie warrior on March 14, 2011, 04:45:48 AM
Obviously most of the bracketologists did on that one. There is only one selection comittee.
So, you are saying that the bracketologists never get it wrong? :-D
Quote from: willie warrior on March 14, 2011, 04:45:48 AMObviously most of the bracketologists did on that one. There is only one selection comittee.
One SC that knows crap about college basketball. The downward trend in college basketball was always going to make for a weak field, as was the expansion to 68 teams, but they really botched this up. There really should be basketball people on the SC.
All that said, there aren't, which means that we as a university also have to get much, much better at creating our profile to ensure we get higher seeds in the future.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 14, 2011, 04:42:31 AM
So you are trying to say that the bracketologists got it wrong, or the committee?
The committee never gets it wrong by definition. They are God on this stuff.
I'm saying there is no such thing as a lock until the committee says so.
How many had VCU in in the Bracket Project?
Quote from: BrewCity on March 14, 2011, 09:47:04 AM
How many had VCU in in the Bracket Project?
11 had UAB
15 had VCU
I think what this says is "this" committee didn't pick or seed teams like past committee's did.
Palm was almost in shock that USC got in.
Bilas and everyone else couldn't believe that UAB got in.
Not a good year for the O$U AD.
Right. They didn't consistently use the criteria that they said they were going to use.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 09:34:29 AM
The committee never gets it wrong by definition. They are God on this stuff.
I'm saying there is no such thing as a lock until the committee says so.
So, OSU wasn't a lock?
I'm just trying to follow the logic.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 09:34:29 AM
The committee never gets it wrong by definition. They are God on this stuff.
I'm saying there is no such thing as a lock until the committee says so.
We're talking apples and oranges here.
To the extent the bracketologists are trying to predict the brackets, they are wrong.
To the extent the bracketologists are stating which teams really deserve to be in the tourney, their choices can be argued vis a vie the SC's choices.
We were a lock after UCONN
I'm sorry, but this is the weakest field for the NCAA tournament EVER. Half the teams in the tounrmanet wouldn't even be close to making the tourny in a halfway decent year, add in that theres three extra spots. If you didn't get in, you have only yourself to blame.
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on March 14, 2011, 12:36:17 PM
We were a lock after UCONN
A loss to Providence in the Big East tourney would have had me sweating the selections.
we probably would have had to play in the first round if we lost to providence
Quote from: KipsBayEagle on March 14, 2011, 12:38:56 PM
I'm sorry, but this is the weakest field for the NCAA tournament EVER. Half the teams in the tounrmanet wouldn't even be close to making the tourny in a halfway decent year, add in that theres three extra spots. If you didn't get in, you have only yourself to blame.
I agree. A number of teams that made it have reason to feel fortunate. No one left out really has a complaint.
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on March 14, 2011, 12:41:24 PM
we probably would have had to play in the first round if we lost to providence
I think us reportedly being one of the last six in shows that not only did we have to beat providence but WV was essentially a play-in game for us.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 14, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
I agree. A number of teams that made it have reason to feel fortunate. No one left out really has a complaint.
Just Colorado - 3 wins against KSU, @Mizzou, and vs Texas is a pretty good list.
Quote from: MuMark on March 14, 2011, 11:06:46 AM
I think what this says is "this" committee didn't pick or seed teams like past committee's did.
Palm was almost in shock that USC got in.
Bilas and everyone else couldn't believe that UAB got in.
Not a good year for the O$U AD.
It's a committee of 10, not a committee of one. I wouldn't put it on the Chairman. His vote counts no more than the other 9, but he has the thorny responsibility of getting in front of the cameras to explain.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 09:34:29 AM
The committee never gets it wrong by definition. They are God on this stuff.
I'm saying there is no such thing as a lock until the committee says so.
+1 If you are on the "bubble", you'd better make damn sure you win what few big games you have down the stretch. And hope the committee flips the coin your way.
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on March 14, 2011, 12:36:17 PM
We were a lock after UCONN
Could not disagree more. If we lost to PC, we aren't in the tournament...thus UCONN win did not make us a lock.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 02:49:43 PM
Could not disagree more. If we lost to PC, we aren't in the tournament...thus UCONN win did not make us a lock.
How in the world do you know this? Becuase of some stupid graphic during the selection show that said we were one of the last 6 in? They were all 11 or 12 seeds that didn't have auto bids (Gonzaga and USU)...therefore, 6 teams...the last 6 at large bids. But, with 11 big east teams, seeds needed to be shuffled. MU could have really been an 8,9,10 seed and bumped to 11 for other reasons. If we were to have lost to PC, we may not have made it. But, I bet we would have as one of the "first four". There is simply no way you can make this statement, especially with such certainty.
Our advantage was quality wins and no bad losses.
You can find major problems with every team left out. I would have picked others instead of UAB and USC but life on the bubble is rough. VATech should have played a better schedule or not lost to VA 3 times.
WE WERE A LOCK AFTER UCONN!
LOCKED IN, BABY! Done deal!
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 14, 2011, 03:11:19 PM
WE WERE A LOCK AFTER UCONN!
LOCKED IN, BABY! Done deal!
Our last 6 teams in seems to defy the logic of your statement. A loss to PC would have put our RPI into the 70's. No one this year made the NCAAs with a RPI in the 70's and it's clear as a bell that the RPI was used rather heavily in this year's selections.
I don't know how any rational person can say if we lost to PC we would still be a lock. The numbers don't lie.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 03:13:38 PM
Our last 6 teams in seems to defy the logic of your statement. A loss to PC would have put our RPI into the 70's. No one this year made the NCAAs with a RPI in the 70's and it's clear as a bell that the RPI was used rather heavily in this year's selections.
I don't know how any rational person can say if we lost to PC we would still be a lock. The numbers don't lie.
Agree 100%. Careful though, Chicos, don't use too many facts, based on tangible evidence, in your posts.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 02:49:43 PM
Could not disagree more. If we lost to PC, we aren't in the tournament...thus UCONN win did not make us a lock.
Hey Chicos, I'm just going to use a quote from you today, instead of typing it myself..
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 01:49:42 PM
Conjecture..no one knows this to be fact.
There are not facts either way, but we're in, so give it up - and move on.