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Title: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: GGGG on March 13, 2011, 05:41:05 PM
He had Colorado in rather easy...but they didn't make it.  St. Mary's and Virginia Tech last four in.  Neither made it.

Georgia and UAB were first four out...and are in.  The shocker is VCU.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: brewcity77 on March 13, 2011, 05:42:23 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 13, 2011, 05:41:05 PMHe had Colorado in rather easy...but they didn't make it.  St. Mary's and Virginia Tech last four in.  Neither made it.

Georgia and UAB were first four out...and are in.  The shocker is VCU.

No idea how VCU gets in, Virginia Tech gets skipped again. We're on the list of the last 6 in.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: GGGG on March 13, 2011, 05:43:07 PM
We were one step away from a play in game.  We don't beat WVU, we might not get in.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 13, 2011, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 13, 2011, 05:42:23 PM
No idea how VCU gets in, Virginia Tech gets skipped again. We're on the list of the last 6 in.

Where is the list of last 6 in?
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2011, 05:46:03 PM
They showed it during the selection show.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 13, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2011, 05:46:03 PM
They showed it during the selection show.

Cool, stopped watching, was talking about MU's draw with people as soon as our name flashed.  Do they ever publish such a list?
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: MUMac on March 13, 2011, 05:47:21 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 13, 2011, 05:43:07 PM
We were one step away from a play in game.  We don't beat WVU, we might not get in.

I said last weekend to some friends that we needed to win 2 in the BE Tourney to get in.  Glad they did, glad they are in.  Last 6 or first 6, it doesn't matter once we lace them up.  We can play with nearly anyone, but we need to play like WVU and not UL.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
Quote from: Jamailman on March 13, 2011, 05:44:56 PM
Where is the list of last 6 in?

Yup.....maybe next year we should save some of these threads so people can stop with the "lock" crap....especially the abuse people took here for saying we WEREN'T a lock...and called anti-Buzz or anti-MU for saying it.

We were right, for a reason.  Too much cheerleading here clouds way too much judgment. 
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: CTWarrior on March 13, 2011, 09:39:13 PM
If the committee is going to pick teams like VCU with a dart board and a blindfold it is going to get harder for guys like Lunardi to get the bracket right.

To be fair, I didn't think UAB was so bad (CUSA is one of the better non BCS conferences and they did win the regular season), but not at the expense of Colorado.  I took a look at VCU's schedule and results and I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: jficke13 on March 13, 2011, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 13, 2011, 09:39:13 PM
If the committee is going to pick teams like VCU with a dart board and a blindfold it is going to get harder for guys like Lunardi to get the bracket right.

To be fair, I didn't think UAB was so bad (CUSA is one of the better non BCS conferences and they did win the regular season), but not at the expense of Colorado.  I took a look at VCU's schedule and results and I just don't get it.

there are no bcs conferences in college bball
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 13, 2011, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Jamailman on March 13, 2011, 05:44:56 PM
Where is the list of last 6 in?

It's not necessarily "the last 6 in." It's the 6 lowest-seeded at-large bids. There's a difference. Teams are often moved up or down a line (or lines) for various reasons, like location, more intriguing match-ups, avoiding rematches and making sure the BE doesn't get too many teams into the Sweet 16  ;)

MU very well could have been safely in but fell due to one or more reasons like these.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: Jacks DC on March 13, 2011, 09:51:56 PM
This field shows that anything can happen.  VCU was never even in the discussion.  They get in over Colorado who beat K-State three times?  What a joke.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: CTWarrior on March 13, 2011, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on March 13, 2011, 09:41:54 PM
there are no bcs conferences in college bball
I should hope you knew I was referring to the Big East, ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 10, which, while not relevant to basketball, are still often referred to as such even in basketball.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: IAmMarquette on March 13, 2011, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
Yup.....maybe next year we should save some of these threads so people can stop with the "lock" crap....especially the abuse people took here for saying we WEREN'T a lock...and called anti-Buzz or anti-MU for saying it.

We were right, for a reason. Too much cheerleading here clouds way too much judgment.  

No, you weren't. How do you know the committee didn't say "Marquette is DEFINITELY IN [i.e. a lock], but they're one of the last teams that are safe."?

Just because we were the last non-play-in at large bid doesn't necessarily mean we weren't or couldn't have been considered a "lock."


Edit: punctuation
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: CTWarrior on March 13, 2011, 09:57:21 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 13, 2011, 09:45:59 PM
It's not necessarily "the last 6 in." It's the 6 lowest-seeded at-large bids. There's a difference. Teams are often moved up or down a line (or lines) for various reasons, like location, more intriguing match-ups, avoiding rematches and making sure the BE doesn't get too many teams into the Sweet 16  ;)

MU very well could have been safely in but fell due to one or more reasons like these.


I don't think so, since they have us playing a potential second round game against another Big East team.  They could have easily made us a lower seed and improved our separation from other Big East teams.  I have to think we were one of the last two teams to make the tournament and escape round 1.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 13, 2011, 10:03:35 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 13, 2011, 09:57:21 PM
I don't think so, since they have us playing a potential second round game against another Big East team.  They could have easily made us a lower seed and improved our separation from other Big East teams.  I have to think we were one of the last two teams to make the tournament and escape round 1.

I'm not saying MU was definitely not one of the last teams in. I'm just saying that it's not as simple as to say that the 6 lowest-seeded teams were the last 6 to get in. That's all.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 13, 2011, 10:04:27 PM
Best line of the night when Bilas said he wasn't sure the people on the committee new if the ball was round or not.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: Coleman on March 13, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
Yup.....maybe next year we should save some of these threads so people can stop with the "lock" crap....especially the abuse people took here for saying we WEREN'T a lock...and called anti-Buzz or anti-MU for saying it.

We were right, for a reason.  Too much cheerleading here clouds way too much judgment.  

haha. Cmon Chicos. Its a message board, and 50% of your posts are to antagonize the crowd.

You're welcome to your opinion, but don't cry abuse.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 13, 2011, 10:06:26 PM
Wow daylight savings time! knew if the ball was round.Sorry about that
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 14, 2011, 05:09:48 AM
Quote from: IAmMarquette on March 13, 2011, 09:55:08 PM
No, you weren't. How do you know the committee didn't say "Marquette is DEFINITELY IN [i.e. a lock], but they're one of the last teams that are safe."?

Just because we were the last non-play-in at large bid doesn't necessarily mean we weren't or couldn't have been considered a "lock."


Edit: punctuation

You know he will never address this because it doesn't fit his way of thinking.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2011, 09:00:49 AM
Quote from: Victor McCormick on March 13, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
haha. Cmon Chicos. Its a message board, and 50% of your posts are to antagonize the crowd.

You're welcome to your opinion, but don't cry abuse.

Careful. Chicos might enlist the help of an auditor to find out if 50% of his posts truly are antagonistic.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 09:39:43 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 13, 2011, 10:03:35 PM
I'm not saying MU was definitely not one of the last teams in. I'm just saying that it's not as simple as to say that the 6 lowest-seeded teams were the last 6 to get in. That's all.


Ahem...MU was one of the last 6 teams in.  Last night on ESPN they said ( paraphrasing ) according to the committee chair Gene Smith, these were the last 6 teams invited.

Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 09:40:48 AM
Quote from: Victor McCormick on March 13, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
haha. Cmon Chicos. Its a message board, and 50% of your posts are to antagonize the crowd.

You're welcome to your opinion, but don't cry abuse.

50%....awesome....no longer Vast Majority.  I must be making progress. 
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: leever on March 14, 2011, 10:22:57 AM
Just went up to 51%
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2011, 10:30:54 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 09:39:43 AM
Ahem...MU was one of the last 6 teams in.  Last night on ESPN they said ( paraphrasing ) according to the committee chair Gene Smith, these were the last 6 teams invited.

It may be true this year but that's not always the case, which is exactly what I was saying. I take everything I hear from the committee with a grain of salt anyway.
Title: Re: Lundardi got three wrong...I think..
Post by: MuMark on March 14, 2011, 11:14:07 AM

Yeah thats a good idea....We can put them up next to the threads that say "No chance we get in at 9-9 in conference. We need to win at least 12 conference gqmes because we didn't win any big games in the non conference".

It wasn't just the board that had people saying we were a lock. It was Lunardi and virtually every other unbiased Bracketologist of note.

The SC messed up the last few at large's and the seeding.

Thats the story here not what was posted on this board.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
Yup.....maybe next year we should save some of these threads so people can stop with the "lock" crap....especially the abuse people took here for saying we WEREN'T a lock...and called anti-Buzz or anti-MU for saying it.

We were right, for a reason.  Too much cheerleading here clouds way too much judgment. 
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