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Title: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: JD on March 10, 2011, 05:25:28 PM
I don't understand why everyone thought they were going to win the BE tourney?  I get it that they handled a few BE teams as of late, but still?

I keep hearing there a lock to be in the elite 8, someone who likes St.Johns chances please give me some insight why?

Thanks

Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on March 10, 2011, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: JDuquaine on March 10, 2011, 05:25:28 PM
I don't understand why everyone thought they were going to win the BE tourney?  I get it that they handled a few BE teams as of late, but still?

I keep hearing there a lock to be in the elite 8, someone who likes St.Johns chances please give me some insight why?

Thanks



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Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: JD on March 10, 2011, 05:31:40 PM
Yes, I would rather have an opinion here rather than a bias st. john board.
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: Bocephys on March 10, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
He can't bash Marquette since we've been winning so he's picking on St. John's
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: MUBurrow on March 10, 2011, 05:37:31 PM
i was actually really high on St Johns and still kind of am. they seemed to be peaking at the right time, and they showed they could beat anyone. plus they had/have one of the hottest players in the country right now. they've beaten the top teams in the country and the league. there's a lot to like.
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: muguru on March 10, 2011, 05:41:41 PM
Except DJ Kennedy has a serious knee in jury now.
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: LA on March 10, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
I agree with MUBurrow, there is a lot to like with St Johns. I haven't heard anyone saying they are a "lock for the elite 8" and I think that it is almost impossible to say that anyone is a "lock" to make it that far with the current parody in college hoops.

Also St Johns has 9 seniors on the roster. I think that is a big part of their success and in recent history we have seen that teams with senior leadership tend to do well in the tourney.
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 10, 2011, 05:46:20 PM
I don't think too many people have them penciled into the elite 8 without Kennedy

Prior to that, the reason people were "all over their jock" was because they were loaded with seniors, have a disruptive style of play that presents match-up problems, and beat some of the top teams in the country (granted, they were all at the Garden).  They also have a big time scorer in Hardy.  I don't think sweet 16/possible elite 8 expectations were out of line.
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: JD on March 10, 2011, 05:46:41 PM
Your right, I shouldn't have used the word lock so loosely,  I read somewhere that there odds were pretty high though, I want to say 70%?  I'll try and find the article


Thanks guys.

Go MU!
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: WarriorHal on March 10, 2011, 05:53:50 PM
They had been pretty dominant at Madison Square Garden this season. I think they blew out Duke there.
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: cheebs09 on March 10, 2011, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: WarriorHal on March 10, 2011, 05:53:50 PM
They had been pretty dominant at Madison Square Garden this season. I think they blew out Duke there.

This. They were one of the hottest teams in the Big East/country up until the Seton Hall game. Adding the seniors that they had and one of the best players in the conference in Hardy , I think they had a very good chance to win the BET.
Title: Re: Why was everyone all over St.Johns jock?
Post by: El Duderino on March 10, 2011, 07:12:01 PM
St. John's IMO was like multiple other good Big East teams this year. They can look fabulous at times and very beatable at other times.

It will be interesting to see how the Big East ends up faring in the NCAA Tournament. I really have no clue what to expect.

Just as easily as i can see the Big East proving to be a strong/deep conference come the NCAA Tournament, i can also easily envision lots of early exits which leads to rants of the Big East being overrated this year.

With the league looking to have so many solid to good teams, but few great teams, we could easily end up seeing teams like Pittsburgh or Notre Dame lose before any number of lower ranked Big East teams.
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