how many times these kids pass up an open three. Buycks and DJO are good three point shooters. Why are they passing up SO MANY FRIGGIN OPEN THREES?
Couldn't agree more. I hope we don't pump fake our way out of the tournament.
Terrible game. Terrible effort by everyone except Butler.
Couldn't agree more. Why do they pass up so many open looks?
Sloppy with the ball...UGH
No confidence
didn't take care of the ball in the first half 9 turnovers and that ridiculous rotation around the perimeter wasting time.
other teams set up shots with double picks to free up a hot hand but NOOOOOO! we don't try to free anybody up until time has run out and somebody has to try a desperation shot
When you shoot 3 for 15 from three point land, no one wants it.
Why other schools did not zone us in some other games is amazing. MU passes around for 25 seconds, then freaks out.
Quote from: nyg on March 02, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
When you shoot 3 for 15 from three point land, no one wants it.
Why other schools did not zone us in some other games is amazing. MU passes around for 25 seconds, then freaks out.
Been saying that all year
Yeah, it's hard to shoot when you've been throwing up bricks all night.
How about diagramming a play for Jae once in awhile
I thought they were actually trying to work to get solid shots and Cinc. got some lucky rebounds off bad outside shots in 2nd half. I wish we would have fouled their big men unless they are really good FT shooters.
when you're down by 5 with a minute left, you have to throw away the past and just shoot the thing.
obviously dribbling around the perimeter until time runs out didin't work, No sense of urgency and it was very frustrating
BB IQ sometimes leaves something to be desired
Quote from: ErickJD08 on March 02, 2011, 09:08:52 PM
when you're down by 5 with a minute left, you have to throw away the past and just shoot the thing.
Agreed - DJO with the shot fake when he should be launching. +buycks. Even Butler. frustrating.
Quote from: nyg on March 02, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
When you shoot 3 for 15 from three point land, no one wants it.
Why other schools did not zone us in some other games is amazing. MU passes around for 25 seconds, then freaks out.
We are a team built on running and getting out in transition. In games like this dominated by half court offense, defense, and low scoring (only 60 points, really?) we have a really tough time and God it is so damn boring and awful to watch. Cincinnati dictated the flow of the game.
Quote from: marquettewade3 on March 02, 2011, 09:14:06 PM
We are a team built on running and getting out in transition. In games like this dominated by half court offense, defense, and low scoring (only 60 points, really?) we have a really tough time and God it is so damn boring and awful to watch. Cincinnati dictated the flow of the game.
Very true... But we are also really good at driving and making defenses collapse. What's the point of collapsing a defense and kicking out for three when it's followed by a pump and running into a lane filled with 8 guys?
Quote from: ErickJD08 on March 02, 2011, 09:18:33 PM
Very true... But we are also really good at driving and making defenses collapse. What's the point of collapsing a defense and kicking out for three when it's followed by a pump and running into a lane filled with 8 guys?
FACT.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on March 02, 2011, 09:18:33 PM
Very true... But we are also really good at driving and making defenses collapse. What's the point of collapsing a defense and kicking out for three when it's followed by a pump and running into a lane filled with 8 guys?
That's how UConn attaked them and they killed them with open 3s. Terrible gameplan tonight
Quote from: nyg on March 02, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
When you shoot 3 for 15 from three point land, no one wants it.
Why other schools did not zone us in some other games is amazing. MU passes around for 25 seconds, then freaks out.
How do you explain MU's relative domination of the vaunted Syracuse zone? Cincy is Number 1 defensive team in the Big East. The zone caused some problems, yes, but turnovers and passed up shots hurt more than anything.
Need some traditional shootin' dudes.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 02, 2011, 10:13:25 PM
Need some traditional shootin' dudes.
I might be the only person to think this, but if you shoot over 33% from three (which is about the equivalent 50% from 2) you should be shooting open threes. And that criteria fits DJO, Buycks, Crowder, and Butler. I am not saying shoot every open three but more than what we are doin.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on March 02, 2011, 08:56:04 PM
how many times these kids pass up an open three. Buycks and DJO are good three point shooters. Why are they passing up SO MANY FRIGGIN OPEN THREES?
I found myself wondering about this too. I think that it shows how drilled they are to try for a great shot, pass it enough to get at least one paint touch, etc. The trying to get a touch in the paint was killing them when Otule was in there because he clearly didn't know where to pass the ball out to under Cincinnati's pressure. I've never seen a team defend the pass OUT of the post like that before.
At the end of the game, I thought that the team wasn't adjusting to the need to get a shot off earlier to conserve time.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on March 02, 2011, 10:20:51 PM
I might be the only person to think this, but if you shoot over 33% from three (which is about the equivalent 50% from 2) you should be shooting open threes. And that criteria fits DJO, Buycks, Crowder, and Butler. I am not saying shoot every open three but more than what we are doin.
Why agree that last night we passed on some open three opportunities, remember this team shoots better than 50% from two, plus we get fouled more when we shoot from two (at FT 69% that is way better than a three). Also, threes are the most likely shot to give up a transition basket, and our transition defense is average at best.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 02, 2011, 10:13:25 PM
Need some traditional shootin' dudes.
We need a hell of a lot more than that, but it is a start:
How about a quality big; how about a real PF; how about some decent game plans and in-game adjustments; how about scheduling more pre season competition than cupcake city to prepare for conference play; etc.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 03, 2011, 12:26:55 AM
I found myself wondering about this too. I think that it shows how drilled they are to try for a great shot, pass it enough to get at least one paint touch, etc. The trying to get a touch in the paint was killing them when Otule was in there because he clearly didn't know where to pass the ball out to under Cincinnati's pressure. I've never seen a team defend the pass OUT of the post like that before.
At the end of the game, I thought that the team wasn't adjusting to the need to get a shot off earlier to conserve time.
How do you explain Buycks pump faking an open three to take two dribbles and shoot a drifting 17 footer? I would think most basketball minds would take an open three over a moving 17 footer.