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Title: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 03:32:47 PM
Jimmy second team.
DJO third team.
Jae Newcomer of the Year.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news;_ylt=Agg1leLR06.hIGOixbVpG07evbYF?slug=jn-bigeast030211
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: brewcity77 on March 02, 2011, 03:36:36 PM
What a stupid first-team. Five guards? And 12/15 players in the first three teams are guards? Couldn't they at least try to assemble a working "team" into their first-team honors? Maybe that's the way of awards now, just hand it to the five best, but it's about as far from a working team as you could ever find.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 02, 2011, 03:36:36 PM
What a stupid first-team. Five guards? And 12/15 players in the first three teams are guards? Couldn't they at least try to assemble a working "team" into their first-team honors? Maybe that's the way of awards now, just hand it to the five best, but it's about as far from a working team as you could ever find.

I'm not sure the intent is to assemble a working team so much as identify the league's top players. It's been a great year for guards in the Big East.
I am a little surprised about Hansbrough over Walker and Hardy for POY, though, and Pitino over Lavin for COY.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: brewcity77 on March 02, 2011, 03:43:47 PM
Agreed on both points. Lavin is definitely coach of the year, they will almost assuredly finish top 3, which no one expected (except Pitino, apparently), and UConn was a one-man show behind Walker. Hansbrough's fine, but not POY material.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 02, 2011, 03:45:53 PM
Nice to see some Marquette names on there.

Pitino over Lavin is a joke but perhaps they're discounting what Lavin has accomplished because St. John's is a senior-laden team.

I could envision Blue eventually putting up stats like Wanamaker from Pitt. Unfortunately, some fans would probably consider him a bust because they only look at points.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 02, 2011, 03:45:53 PM
Nice to see some Marquette names on there.

All JUCOs, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: willie warrior on March 02, 2011, 03:59:19 PM
Pitino must have gotten the awatrd for his performance on restaurant table tops.

What a travesty.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: mikem91288 on March 02, 2011, 04:14:53 PM
Sorry to be nitpicky, but Cleveland Melvin of Depaul for Freshman of the year?

Come on. Didn't Jeremy Lamb from UConn light it up this year? He sure lit us up at the BC
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 04:22:37 PM
Quote from: mikem91288 on March 02, 2011, 04:14:53 PM
Sorry to be nitpicky, but Cleveland Melvin of Depaul for Freshman of the year?

Come on. Didn't Jeremy Lamb from UConn light it up this year? He sure lit us up at the BC
Melvin - 14.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg
Lamb - 9.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg

Melvin and Brandon Young have been bright spots in another season of misery for DePaul.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: brewcity77 on March 02, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: mikem91288 on March 02, 2011, 04:14:53 PMSorry to be nitpicky, but Cleveland Melvin of Depaul for Freshman of the year?

Come on. Didn't Jeremy Lamb from UConn light it up this year? He sure lit us up at the BC

Lamb lit us up (24 pts), but so did Melvin (20 pts). And unlike Lamb, Melvin never hit a cold streak. He's scored in double-digits in all but 2 Big East games, and has scored 20+ in 7 of DePaul's conference games. Freshman of the Year is probably the easiest call in the conference, and it's Melvin all day.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 02, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
All JUCOs, for what it's worth.

The Horror!

I love all three of those guys - and Joe, what could have been!

Where would we be without all five of our JUCO transfers?  Certainly not in the tournament, and we wouldn't have a senior night tonight.  They worked their asses off to get here, produced at a high level, balanced the classes, and represented MU well.  What's not to love?
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: AZWarrior on March 02, 2011, 05:18:59 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 02, 2011, 03:36:36 PM
What a stupid first-team. Five guards? And 12/15 players in the first three teams are guards? Couldn't they at least try to assemble a working "team" into their first-team honors? Maybe that's the way of awards now, just hand it to the five best, but it's about as far from a working team as you could ever find.

I guess it really is a guards game. 
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: nyg on March 02, 2011, 05:35:53 PM
I agree with most, with exception of Pitino as COY, should be Lavin.  Also thought Hardy should be POY. 

Congrats to Jae Crowder.  Great job.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: Marquette84 on March 02, 2011, 06:06:47 PM
Quote from: Jamailman on March 02, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
Where would we be without all five of our JUCO transfers?  Certainly not in the tournament,

Impossible to tell.

You simply don't know who Buzz may have recruited instead of the JUCOs.  Had he recruited 5 HS players as good as the Amigos over the course of the last 3 years, they'd be freshmen, sophs, and juniors this year, and we absolutely would be in the tournament.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: mikem91288 on March 02, 2011, 06:47:12 PM
Ah yes Brew City knows all. I don't think giving an all big east award to anyone from Depaul is the easiest call in the conference.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: lab_warrior on March 02, 2011, 06:57:34 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
All JUCOs, for what it's worth.

Thanks for that keen observation.  "For what it's worth", it's not worth much.   
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 02, 2011, 06:57:34 PM
Thanks for that keen observation.  "For what it's worth", it's not worth much.   

I'm sorry, but what exactly has you so upset?
My point - which I thought most Scoopers would manage to pick up on - was that for all the grief MU has taken for recruiting JUCOs, they're proving to be some of the team's best and most respected players.
I suppose my mistake here was making the assumption that everyone would be able to understand that. My bad, I guess. Next time I'll be more clear for our less astute readers.
Title: Re: Yahoo/Rivals All-Big East selections
Post by: lab_warrior on March 02, 2011, 07:52:50 PM
Well, it sure read like you were trashing JUCO, aka, "non-traditional" players.  So yeah.
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