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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on February 26, 2011, 03:42:04 PM

Title: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 26, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
Tomorrow, before our game, Cincy hosts Uconn and something gives here.  Either Cincy loses and becomes the 6th team with 7 losses or Uconn becomes the first of the 11 expected to make the tourney with 8 losses.

Pittsburgh   13-2   25-3
Notre Dame   11-4   22-5
St. John's   11-5   19-9
Louisville   10-5   21-7
Syracuse   11-6   24-6
Cincinnati   9-6   22-6
Georgetown   10-7   21-8
Villanova   9-7   21-8
Marquette   8-7   17-11
Connecticut   8-7   20-7
West Virginia   8-7   17-10

Seton Hall   5-10   11-16
Rutgers   4-11   13-14
Providence   3-12   14-14
South Florida   3-13   9-20
DePaul   1-15   7-21
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: mugrad2006 on February 26, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
Does the parity in the Big East start to limit the number of bids we get?  I mean, pretty much any of those teams passes the 'eyeball test' of being in the tourney, but do committee members start looking at a bunch of 8 loss teams and go 'maybe they're all just not that good' like we tend to do with the B1(2)0?
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: Blackhat on February 26, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
Without looking at the numbers, the new Big East's rep in teams performance in the NCAA tourney is pretty good.
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 26, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
The difference is the BE has pretty much destroyed all the good teams in their non-conference schedule.

So before other conference fans start screaming that Uconn sucks, they need to be reminded that Uconn beat the best of the SEC (Kentucky and Tenn) the Big12 (at Texas) and Michigan State when everyone thought they were the best in the B10.

Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: mugrad2006 on February 26, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 26, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
The difference is the BE has pretty much destroyed all the good teams in their non-conference schedule.

So before other conference fans start screaming that Uconn sucks, they need to be reminded that Uconn beat the best of the SEC (Kentucky and Tenn) the Big12 (at Texas) and Michigan State when everyone thought they were the best in the B10.



Good point, I didn't think about it that way.  The polls clearly agree with 8 BEast teams in the top 25.  Frankly, with the ACC only having 2-3 legit teams, the SEC with 2-3 legit teams, and PAC 10 with only 2 legit teams, 11 out of the Big East seems really reasonable.  I'd take Marquette, Cincy, and West Virginia (9 thru 11 in the BEast) on a neutral court against any team outside of the top 3 in their conference any day.
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: 79Warrior on February 26, 2011, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 26, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
The difference is the BE has pretty much destroyed all the good teams in their non-conference schedule.

So before other conference fans start screaming that Uconn sucks, they need to be reminded that Uconn beat the best of the SEC (Kentucky and Tenn) the Big12 (at Texas) and Michigan State when everyone thought they were the best in the B10.



BE is for real. Too bad Murf did not wait to see the teams play before he said the BE would be down this year.
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 26, 2011, 07:01:28 PM
AnotherMU, great point.

That's why the Wisconsin, Vandy, Duke and Zags games were so crucial. A non-conf win over a current (or projected) Top-25 team, despite begin early in the season, would shine right now. Just like it does for UCONN despite their woes.

We don't have any and that's why we must WIN OUT the season...and last at least a game in the conf tourny.
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 26, 2011, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 26, 2011, 07:01:28 PM
AnotherMU, great point.

That's why the Wisconsin, Vandy, Duke and Zags games were so crucial. A non-conf win over a current (or projected) Top-25 team, despite begin early in the season, would shine right now. Just like it does for UCONN despite their woes.

We don't have any and that's why we must WIN OUT the season...and last at least a game in the conf tourny.

That last part is just flat wrong. On all accounts. You are saying we need to win the last 3 to finish 11-7 and that wont be enough? We need to go 11-7 and win 1 game in BET and that might be enough? I want some of your drugs. I dont care how they come, if we get 3 more wins we are in without a sweat.
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: bilsu on February 26, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
10-8 mgets you in. Villanova is going to finish 9-9 and Uconn is going to finish 8-10.

My prediction is based on their remaining schedules:
Pitt 16-2
ND 14-4
St John's 13-5
Louisville 12-6
Syracuse 12-6
Cincy 12-6
Georgetown 10-8
West Virginia 10-8
MU 10-8
Villanova 9-9
Uconn 8-10
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 26, 2011, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: bilsu on February 26, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
My prediction is based on their remaining schedules:
Pitt 16-2
ND 14-4
St John's 13-5
Louisville 12-6
Syracuse 12-6
Cincy 12-6
Georgetown 10-8
West Virginia 10-8
MU 10-8
Villanova 9-9
Uconn 8-10

Do you have the tiebreakers correct?  As listed above you have us ninth.  Any chance we could sneak into 8th place with a 10-8 record and earn a first round bye?
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: Fullodds on February 26, 2011, 10:20:24 PM
Big East should send 10 teams. Look at whom St. John's beat in non-con. Crushing Duke was great for the BE.
Title: Re: BE Standings, 5 Teams Now With 7 Losses So MU is tied for 7th
Post by: babytownfrolics on February 26, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: Fullodds on February 26, 2011, 10:20:24 PM
Big East should send 10 teams. Look at whom St. John's beat in non-con. Crushing Duke was great for the BE.


Has anybody been paying attention???

Big east can should and will send 11 teams.
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