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Title: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: MUBalla23 on February 23, 2011, 09:44:55 PM
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Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 23, 2011, 09:47:08 PM
Depends if we're able to beat the Bearcats.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: bilsu on February 23, 2011, 10:03:56 PM
I think that is good for us. Makes a win against them better, if we can win. Makes a loss to them less damaging.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: geps on February 23, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
Unfortunately we have to beat UConn now I think. UC now beating teams we could not earlier in the year.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Norm on February 23, 2011, 10:15:28 PM
If Chris Wright would have gone 0-4 from 3-point land and scored only 2 points against us, MU would have beat Georgetown too despite how bad MU played in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Windyplayer on February 23, 2011, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: gepsguys on February 23, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
Unfortunately we have to beat UConn now I think. UC now beating teams we could not earlier in the year.
Agreed. That win means the committee will most likely have to take 11 from the BEast for MU to get in, which if we win tomorrow night is a distinct possibility.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: 79Warrior on February 23, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: gepsguys on February 23, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
Unfortunately we have to beat UConn now I think. UC now beating teams we could not earlier in the year.

Yep. Unfortunately, I do not see a win against UCONN. We are going the wrong direction and are just about at the end of the line. This time of year separates the contenders from the pretenders.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: MUBalla23 on February 23, 2011, 10:23:06 PM
i dont think we NEED to beat uconn.  If we win it might make us a lock. But lunardi already had cincy in front of us in the bracketology.  A win against them and one round farther then them in the bet.  I think we will be considered ahead of them because they will drop a few at home with uconn and gtown.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: #MUBB on February 23, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
Quote from: gepsguys on February 23, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
Unfortunately we have to beat UConn now I think. UC now beating teams we could not earlier in the year.

I disagree. If we lose at UConn but take care of business at home and finish with a win at Seton Hall you don't think 10-8 gets us in?? A win tomorrow would be huge but we don't HAVE to come home with a W to keep our tourney hopes alive.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Buzz's Tin on February 23, 2011, 10:30:48 PM
Quote from: MU PoopScoop on February 23, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
I disagree. If we lose at UConn but take care of business at home and finish with a win at Seton Hall you don't think 10-8 gets us in?? A win tomorrow would be huge but we don't HAVE to come home with a W to keep our tourney hopes alive.

+1. You're right on Poopscoop
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: MuMark on February 23, 2011, 10:39:22 PM
I wouldn't count on Georgetown beating Cincy in the return.....Wright broke his wrist tonight.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 23, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
Also, this was Cincy's first road win against a top 25 team in seven years.  That is how rare these kind of wins are.

For all of D1 ball this year, was this just the 25th of 345 teams to win against a top 25 on the road?

Number 26 will be MU tomorrow! 
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 23, 2011, 11:21:40 PM
Quote from: MuMark on February 23, 2011, 10:39:22 PM
I wouldn't count on Georgetown beating Cincy in the return.....Wright broke his wrist tonight.

Terrible new got Gtown.  Very lucky news for Cincy. 

Nonetheless, I still don't think we're competing with Cincy for a spot- we just need to prove we deserve a spot regardless of what cincy does.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: mug644 on February 24, 2011, 01:38:44 AM
Quote from: windyplayer on February 23, 2011, 10:15:33 PM
Agreed. That win means the committee will most likely have to take 11 from the BEast for MU to get in, which if we win tomorrow night is a distinct possibility.

If we beat UConn, it is unlikely that we ended up as the 11th team from the BEast, especially if we win our home games. That's the real value of winning tonight, it sort of puts us back in a situation where 10-8 is very likely not only on the right side of the bubble, but higher up in the BEast standings.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 24, 2011, 02:28:19 AM
We dont have to beat Uconn, although its recommended.


No way we do win sadly though.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 24, 2011, 06:44:30 AM
But cincy will get a big * next to that game b/c wright is hurt. ::)



Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: willie warrior on February 24, 2011, 06:47:39 AM
Cincy is now in. Only way we get in is if they tale 11 from BEast, and Im do not believe they will. We are on outside looking in. NIT.

Oh well, there is always next year. We must beat UCONN tonight.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Windyplayer on February 24, 2011, 08:14:14 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
Also, this was Cincy's first road win against a top 25 team in seven years.  That is how rare these kind of wins are.

For all of D1 ball this year, was this just the 25th of 345 teams to win against a top 25 on the road?

Number 26 will be MU tomorrow! 
Wasn't Tennessee over Vandy number 25?
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: bobnoxious on February 24, 2011, 08:32:04 AM
I really hope that everyone realizes even with a loss tonight we still could potentially finish ahead of west virginia.  Cincy still has 3 games left that are ones that could very easily turn into losses.  Cautiously optimistic
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Skatastrophy on February 24, 2011, 09:04:09 AM
Quote from: bobnoxious on February 24, 2011, 08:32:04 AM
I really hope that everyone realizes even with a loss tonight we still could potentially finish ahead of west virginia.  Cincy still has 3 games left that are ones that could very easily turn into losses.  Cautiously optimistic

Agreed.  There are still enough games left no matter what the outcome is tonight.

Thankfully we're going to get a big win @UConn, so we won't have to worry about it.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: leever on February 24, 2011, 10:04:48 AM
Point is St Johns needed to win some big games even to get ON the bubble, and continues to win down the stretch.  Same for Cincy, they have won the games they had to win.

They have both moved ahead of us in the pecking order.

Still time, but we need to win some games and there are no easy ones left (anyone see Providence last night?).  I think we DO need to beat UCONN tonight - or win the rest and 2 more in the Big East tourny.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 24, 2011, 10:20:57 AM
It means it's over.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Windyplayer on February 24, 2011, 12:16:32 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 24, 2011, 10:20:57 AM
It means it's over.
Aren't you a peach. Thanks for justifying your answer on a highly divisive question.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: BM1090 on February 24, 2011, 12:31:22 PM
If all the negative posters would do one minute of research, they would realize that saying tonight is a must win is asinine
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: JWags85 on February 24, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on February 24, 2011, 12:16:32 PM
Aren't you a peach. Thanks for justifying your answer on a highly divisive question.

I just find it humorous that a large number of people here are claiming we are out of it and we need to beat UCONN and almost run the table in the BE tourney to get in, yet the majority of pundits and statisticians feel 1) the BE gets 11 teams, and 2) MU is one of those teams.  Get a grip people, lets just win a few basketball games and chill out.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: willie warrior on February 24, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on February 24, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
I just find it humorous that a large number of people here are claiming we are out of it and we need to beat UCONN and almost run the table in the BE tourney to get in, yet the majority of pundits and statisticians feel 1) the BE gets 11 teams, and 2) MU is one of those teams.  Get a grip people, lets just win a few basketball games and chill out.
So the real thing to worry about is that BEast gets 11 teams, and then we are all right. Somehow, I do not get great comfort that we are just #11 in BEast. That is not what we should have expectations for.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
I'm figurin' the BE gets 10 teams in and St. John's is clearly in.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Windyplayer on February 24, 2011, 05:33:56 PM
The committee has no problem putting 11 teams from the BEast in. Hypothetically, if we win out, we're in hands down. Hell if we win tonight, we're basically a lock. You can't fault a team for being in a really good (and HUGE) conference. If they have the numbers, they're in.
Title: Re: How bad is it for us that cincy is going to beat gtown?
Post by: Windyplayer on February 24, 2011, 05:35:19 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on February 24, 2011, 05:33:56 PM
The committee has no problem putting 11 teams from the BEast in. Hypothetically, if we win out, we're in hands down. Hell if we win tonight, we're basically a lock. You can't fault a team for being in a really good (and HUGE) conference. If they have the numbers, they're in.

Michigan State is 4th in the Big Ten at 8-7 for pete's sake. We'd be right there with our record in the Big Ten and we're in a better conference.
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