Are you kidding me with that garbage? And it's Gasser?
I was happy. Michigan was lurking on the bubble with some home games. Good to see them off.
Eh, yea, I agree that's a good point. But still, hard for my initial reaction to be happy watching that.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 23, 2011, 07:34:19 PM
I was happy. Michigan was lurking on the bubble with some home games. Good to see them off.
Word... our Gophers need to finish Michigan off on Saturday.
Probabley good for us that they won. I really don't think the Bo-ring badgers are gonna do much in the tourney but who knows?
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 23, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
Word... our Gophers need to finish Michigan off on Saturday.
True that, but the gophers are in a world of hurt(literally).
was there, and its always hard to see sconnie win - especially in the most sconnie way possible. probably good for us in the long run, but damn, how Wisconsin of them. especially since they looked awful all game.
Quote from: wesmat23 on February 23, 2011, 08:03:42 PM
Probabley good for us that they won. I really don't think the Bo-ring badgers are gonna do much in the tourney but who knows?
They have a NBA caliber point guard and cause tons of match-up problems on their front line. They are going to be tough to beat. I think they make the Sweet 16 at least this year.
Quote from: VanderBabyBlue on February 23, 2011, 07:29:22 PM
Are you kidding me with that garbage? And it's Gasser?
I think the only people who aren't suprised by the way he is playing are his parents. Solid kid.
Seriously, has there been a luckier team in the country the last number of years then Pissconsin?? Whether it be getting a favorable schedule(getting to play the best teams at home or only once), or a hot shooting display or a banked in three at the buzzer?? The list goes on and on. So frustrating!
11-3 vs 9 through 16 seeds, 1-7 vs 1 through 8 seeds in the last 10 years in the tournament. The 1 win was in OT against an FSU team who've been in 2 tournaments and haven't won a tourney game since '98. I think they have the potential to be better this year vs top seeds with two big-time players in Leuer and Taylor, but I'll have to see it to believe it. Excellent FT shooting helps in tourney, but they also don't get there a ton. Style of play, not committing turnovers but also not forcing turnovers and not putting pressure on opponents, works great for regular-season overachieving, but not well at all when you get behind against good teams in March.
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
Seriously, has there been a luckier team in the country the last number of years then Pissconsin?? Whether it be getting a favorable schedule(getting to play the best teams at home or only once), or a hot shooting display or a banked in three at the buzzer?? The list goes on and on. So frustrating!
As a huge Marquette fan, I too, along with I'm sure a ton of others here hate Wisconsin. It sucks to see them do good. But come tourney time they will do what they do best and choke.
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and they are still better than us
We've all debated Gasser ad nauseum but count me in as one who is very impressed with his all around game.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 23, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
We've all debated Gasser ad nauseum but count me in as one who is very impressed with his all around game.
His all around game? Let's not get carried away. Gasser is the classic Wisconsin role player who doesn't bring much to the table but doesn't take much off the table. 90% of the time he's invisible on the court...and I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. That's his job. He's a perfect fit at Wisconsin and, oddly enough, he'd be at best the 8-10th man for most other BCS teams.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 23, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
We've all debated Gasser ad nauseum but count me in as one who is very impressed with his all around game.
Gasser is definitely a solid player. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Vander Blue has a higher ceiling for sure, but not all ceilings get reached.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 23, 2011, 09:52:05 PM
His all around game? Let's not get carried away. Gasser is the classic Wisconsin role player who doesn't bring much to the table but doesn't take much off the table. 90% of the time he's invisible on the court...and I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. That's his job. He's a perfect fit at Wisconsin and, oddly enough, he'd be at best the 8-10th man for most other BCS teams.
Scott's Peachfuzz, have you actually been watching this MF'er? For a freshman, this cat is fundamentally sound, hard nosed, and his a-hole doesn't spasm when shooting late in the shot clock. Regrettably, we don't have a first year guard that even comes close.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 23, 2011, 09:57:58 PM
Scott's Peachfuzz, have you actually been watching this MF'er? For a freshman, this cat is fundamentally sound, hard nosed, and his a-hole doesn't spasm when shooting late in the shot clock. Regrettably, we don't have a first year guard that even comes close.
So he's fundamentally sound, hard-nosed and has good composure? That doesn't sound like a typical Badger role player to you?
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 23, 2011, 07:34:19 PM
I was happy. Michigan was lurking on the bubble with some home games. Good to see them off.
+1. And K-State beat Nebraska. Helps to ease a big win by Cincy.
In 36 minutes, he shot 4 times, had 4 rebounds, ONE ASSIST, 5 pts, and a team high 3 turnovers. I'm sure he'll develop into a fine little player, but I honestly don't get the love.
Quote from: MUBurrow on February 23, 2011, 11:01:03 PM
In 36 minutes, he shot 4 times, had 4 rebounds, ONE ASSIST, 5 pts, and a team high 3 turnovers. I'm sure he'll develop into a fine little player, but I honestly don't get the love.
Give me that "fine little player" over Vander Blue any day.
I don't understand how Gasser can contribute at all. All I read here is how the best thing about Freshman is they become Sophomores when discussing the disappointment known as Vander Blue.
MU desperately needs a guy like Gasser...someone who can hit a big shot and doesn't have panic written all over his face. Screw the switchable crap. Give me some basketball players.
Quote from: willie wampum on February 23, 2011, 11:07:30 PM
Give me that "fine little player" over Vander Blue any day.
I don't understand how Gasser can contribute at all. All I read here is how the best thing about Freshman is they become Sophomores when discussing the disappointment known as Vander Blue.
I can't dive into another Gasser v Blue fight or my head will explode and I will come off sounding holier than thou, BUT
- Vander could have that line too - if he were asked to stand in the corner all game. But he's not. He's asked to create, to guard go to players on the other team, and to be an integral part of the break. If you have a complaint , its a system issue, not a player issue. There is no place for Vander to do this damn Gasser impression on this team. And I'm willing to bet thats a huge part of why he's here in the first place.
QuoteMU desperately needs a guy like Gasser...someone who can hit a big shot and doesn't have panic written all over his face.
From Gasser himself on his "calm, big shot" tonight - "I didn't have time to set my feet or take a jump shot. I just heaved it up there so that we'd at least have a chance, As soon as I let it go, I knew it was going to be off the board, but I thought it had a chance to bank in..."
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 23, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
We've all debated Gasser ad nauseum but count me in as one who is very impressed with his all around game.
For a Freshman, he's steady and does a lot of the little things correctly.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 23, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
Word... our Gophers need to finish Michigan off on Saturday.
I would like to commend you on using "Word". I thought I was the only person who did that anymore. Well done.
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
Seriously, has there been a luckier team in the country the last number of years then Pissconsin??
You mean like when they were Big Ten regular season champions and lost one of their best players to injury in the conference championship game?
They have a better team and at this point a better program.
Their like the bears.....no matter what...they still suck
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 24, 2011, 06:36:34 AM
For a Freshman, he's steady and does a lot of the little things correctly.
Steady? Come on now. Thats like calling a QB a "good game manager". Props to the kid for hitting the shot, but its not like he split 3 defenders for a thunder dunk. I swear people think Vander would have thrown it 5 feet over the backboard in that situation.
All this Gasser love is hilarious. The kid is a nice "system" player for Wisconsin. He'll never be anything more than that. Don't read that as an insult. The kid is seeing significant minutes as a freshman on a top 15 team. He's just not asked to do very much in those minutes.
I'm really looking forward to re-living these posts in a couple years when Gasser is still a nice system player at UW and Blue is All-Big East performer for MU.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 24, 2011, 09:36:33 AM
Steady? Come on now. Thats like calling a QB a "good game manager". Props to the kid for hitting the shot, but its not like he split 3 defenders for a thunder dunk. I swear people think Vander would have thrown it 5 feet over the backboard in that situation.
Give me a break. If Vander does tonight what Gasser did for Wisconsin last night, we would be falling all over ourselves with praise for Blue. Give the kid a break. He is the starting guard for a top 15 team in the country. He wasn't even recruited by Wisconsin until Blue backed out of his commitment. He may be a "system player," but he is performing better in his role than Blue would have been.
Seriously, you guys are hillarious.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 23, 2011, 09:52:05 PM
His all around game? Let's not get carried away. Gasser is the classic Wisconsin role player who doesn't bring much to the table but doesn't take much off the table. 90% of the time he's invisible on the court...and I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way. That's his job. He's a perfect fit at Wisconsin and, oddly enough, he'd be at best the 8-10th man for most other BCS teams.
I disagree with you about Gasser being a role play "who doesn't bring much to the table", I foresee his career to be more like that of a Tyrel Reed or a Brady Morningstar at KU. Are they all-stars, no, but they are very solid players that win games.
Quote from: MUBurrow on February 23, 2011, 11:01:03 PM
In 36 minutes, he shot 4 times, had 4 rebounds, ONE ASSIST, 5 pts, and a team high 3 turnovers. I'm sure he'll develop into a fine little player, but I honestly don't get the love.
This seems to be a typical line.
I've only seen the Badgers six times this season. Gasser hasn't made an impact on my mind in any of the games but I'm sure he'll develop into a thorn in everyone's side.
That said, he's a Frosh who's starting and he's laid down a triple double. Say what you will about competition, but that last accomplishment is impressive on any level in college ball.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 24, 2011, 09:36:33 AM
Steady? Come on now. Thats like calling a QB a "good game manager". Props to the kid for hitting the shot, but its not like he split 3 defenders for a thunder dunk. I swear people think Vander would have thrown it 5 feet over the backboard in that situation.
I'd take a good game manager QB over a gunslinger that coughs up the ball 3 times a game.
Let's be real here, Bo Ryan isn't going to play a kid, let alone start him and the number of minutes this guy plays as a Freshman unless he is a fundamentally sound player, isn't hurting his team on the court, plays good defense, etc. He just isn't going to do it.
I think Wisconsin is having a good season and certainly not struggling by having him in there.
I am sorry to bring this up, but as freshmen, I think Gasser is more impressive than that Hulls kid at Indiana was. And I think Hulls is a pretty good player.
The fact that Ryan had Gasser on the floor in that situation should tell you all you need to know. Blue would most certainly NOT be on the floor.
Quote from: ceh on February 24, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
I disagree with you about Gasser being a role play "who doesn't bring much to the table", I foresee his career to be more like that of a Tyrel Reed or a Brady Morningstar at KU. Are they all-stars, no, but they are very solid players that win games.
Fair enough.
What is it that Gasser brings to the table?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 24, 2011, 12:09:02 PM
I am sorry to bring this up, but as freshmen, I think Gasser is more impressive than that Hulls kid at Indiana was. And I think Hulls is a pretty good player.
The fact that Ryan had Gasser on the floor in that situation should tell you all you need to know. Blue would most certainly NOT be on the floor.
This I most certainly have to agree with. His confidence is so pathetically low right now I'm not sure VB could even field the pass in that situation, much less get a decent shot off. So frustrating for us, but must be 100 times more so for him.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 24, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
Give me a break. If Vander does tonight what Gasser did for Wisconsin last night, we would be falling all over ourselves with praise for Blue. Give the kid a break. He is the starting guard for a top 15 team in the country. He wasn't even recruited by Wisconsin until Blue backed out of his commitment. He may be a "system player," but he is performing better in his role than Blue would have been.
Seriously, you guys are hillarious.
Really? You don't think that Blue could be the fifth option on offense and play average D? Blue lost his confidence because he has been asked to do things for MU that he wasn't ready to do. Let me ask you this: How do you think Gasser would do in Blue's role on MU?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 24, 2011, 12:36:12 PM
Really? You don't think that Blue could be the fifth option on offense and play average D? Blue lost his confidence because he has been asked to do things for MU that he wasn't ready to do. Let me ask you this: How do you think Gasser would do in Blue's role on MU?
I think both are in situations that uses their talents best. Blue is a better fit for MU and Gasser is a better fit for UW. We'll see how both grow and develop within each system.