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Title: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 17, 2011, 08:34:39 AM
After about 200 posts from you telling us why Gardner should play more than Outle, which you analyzed from every possible angle, Outle is now breaking out with two great games.  Nice call Willie.

When Buzz makes bone-headed moves, we call him out.  Why not posters with bond-headed ideas like demanding over and over that Outle sit in favor of Gardner?
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:30:59 AM
Hey Man---maybe you should read the posts instead of imagining what was said.

First I have consistently said Gardner should be getting in the area of 15 minutes per game and Otule the balance. Exceptions of course for match ups, small ball etc. So yes Gardner should play more. You sir, do not know what you are talking about.

Second--if you call Otule's last two games as great games, I guess you are entitled to your opinion. I beieve he averaged abiout 6 points in those two games. That is not great. Yes Otule is improving----so is Gardner in the limited time Buzz gives him. So go ahead with your man crush on Otule, and hating on Gardner. What is Otule hauling in on rebounds---haven't checked lately, but I would be surprised if it was 4 a game. And he is the tallest guy on the floor about 90% of the time. I have said we need both of them in BEast wars. Williams is not giving enough minutes to Gardner.

End of my discussion.

Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:30:59 AM
Second--if you call Otule's last two games as great games, I guess you are entitled to your opinion. I beieve he averaged abiout 6 points in those two games. That is not great. Yes Otule is improving----so is Gardner in the limited time Buzz gives him. So go ahead with your man crush on Otule, and hating on Gardner. What is Otule hauling in on rebounds---haven't checked lately, but I would be surprised if it was 4 a game. And he is the tallest guy on the floor about 90% of the time. I have said we need both of them in BEast wars. Williams is not giving enough minutes to Gardner.

End of my discussion.


Otule was incredible v. St. Johns - our second best player on the floor next to JFB.  If you can't see what impact he had on that game, you simply don't know basketball.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: leever on February 17, 2011, 09:38:33 AM
Willie-
OK he's not scoring 15 points a game, but you have to admit that he's become somewhat of a presence underneath with a couple blocked shots each game.  And, the criticism was that he could not rebound at all, but he's had good numbers the last few games.  Admittedly, a small sample but it does show improvement.  Of course, you are correct that he cannot play 40 minutes so you can make a case that Gardner deserves more time as well.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:43:47 AM
I checked--he is averaging 3 rebounds per game in about 16 minutes. By 84's standards that is great.

Otule is improving and that is a good thing. Give Gardner the same opportunity. If Gardner was getting 15 to 20 minutes per game, he would be avaeraging in double figures. As I have said many times, they both have strengths.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:57:36 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:43:47 AM
If Gardner was getting 15 to 20 minutes per game,

When Buzz tried, I believe Gardner fouled out in about 10 minutes.  But hey, why use facts.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 09:59:59 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:57:36 AM
When Buzz tried, I believe Gardner fouled out in about 10 minutes.  But hey, why use facts.


Because willie only looks at what he can read in the boxscore.  Anything outside of that is apparently useless to him.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 10:27:38 AM
I will say it again:  If we had guards that could consistently feed the post at the proper time, Otule would probably be averaging about 10 points a game. 

I can't tell you how many times he's got excellent position established and is ready and calling for the ball and he doesn't get it.  Must be frustrating for him. 

And don't bring out the "he can't catch it" BS.  He can't catch those crazy playground drop-offs that our guards try to wrap around two defenders.  He catches it when he's ready for it.  If's he's ready for it, he has good balance and more often than not does something productive with it. 
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 17, 2011, 10:36:43 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:43:47 AM
I checked--he is averaging 3 rebounds per game in about 16 minutes. By 84's standards that is great.

Nice selective use of the facts.  Outle pulled down 9 boards at GU and 7 against St' Johns.

The man has broken out as a good defensive player in the last two games.  The reason is Buzz completely rejected your world-view about how to handle the "5".  He let Outle worked himself into the season and was not impatient by giving his time to Ox.  Buzz was 100% right which does not bode well for your opinion on this subject.

200 posts, all wrong.

End of discussion
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 10:45:32 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 17, 2011, 09:59:59 AM

Because willie only looks at what he can read in the boxscore.  Anything outside of that is apparently useless to him.
Hey Sultan--let's match education level and IQ.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: ringout on February 17, 2011, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 10:45:32 AM
Hey Sultan--let's match education level and IQ.

willie, don't care.  You are proof that eduacation and IQ don't measure common sense and real world street smarts.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 10:45:32 AM
Hey Sultan--let's match education level and IQ.

::)

You're funny...
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: g0lden3agle on February 17, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 10:45:32 AM
Hey Sultan--let's match education level and IQ.

LOL Yes!  Here we go!  Nowhere did he challenge your actual smarts.  Plenty of reason to challenge your basketball IQ at times.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: reinko on February 17, 2011, 11:00:41 AM
Let's do it boys!  FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

http://www.iqtest.com/

Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 11:05:26 AM
Quote from: reinko on February 17, 2011, 11:00:41 AM
Let's do it boys!  FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

http://www.iqtest.com/


OK...I'm game.  I will take it over lunch if I have time.  As far as "education level," I am one of those dorks with two master's degrees.  An MA in American Diplomatic History that I took because it was free, and an MBA in Strategic Management, which was also free...and also actually useful!!!
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: reinko on February 17, 2011, 11:08:29 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 17, 2011, 11:05:26 AM

OK...I'm game.  I will take it over lunch if I have time.  As far as "education level," I am one of those dorks with two master's degrees.  An MA in American Diplomatic History that I took because it was free, and an MBA in Strategic Management, which was also free...and also actually useful!!!

c'mon willie, you too...take the test, they will then email you a free result!

Just took it, takes about 10 minutes, it's 38 logic questions.  Yours truly straight dominated with a 113.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 11:18:31 AM
115.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 17, 2011, 11:18:31 AM
115.
131 - took about 17 minutes
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: reinko on February 17, 2011, 11:21:50 AM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 11:20:56 AM
131 - took about 17 minutes

Nice job poindexter  ;D
(http://www.createdtwice.com/images/dr_d2fd15b5bff628980434862e4522b704.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 11:24:25 AM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 11:20:56 AM
131 - took about 17 minutes


IOW "Too smart to post on MU Scoop."
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 11:27:07 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 17, 2011, 11:24:25 AM

IOW "Too smart to post on MU Scoop."
yeah right!  I'm the guy that doesn't get into the stats, remember?  I just enjoy watching the games (or given recent games, doesn't enjoy watching games). 
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 17, 2011, 11:49:23 AM
145.  17 minutes.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: reinko on February 17, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
Quote from: BrewCity on February 17, 2011, 11:49:23 AM
145.  17 minutes.

Good christ, we got some smart mf'ers on this board.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 17, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
That's how I got through MU, bro.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
I scored 22 putts/round.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 17, 2011, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: reinko on February 17, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
Good christ, we got some smart mf'ers on this board.

Everyone on this board that scored less than 145 in 7 minutes needs to take the test 100 times a day, after wind-sprints when out of breath. Hopefully they will build a good muscle memory and improve their TT% (test taking %)
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2011, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 11:20:56 AM
131 - took about 17 minutes


I'm figurin' F*ckin' scores in negative numbers.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: g0lden3agle on February 17, 2011, 12:23:52 PM
I continue the de-railing of this thread by posting my score:

135 in about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Jam Chowder on February 17, 2011, 12:45:21 PM
137
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Skatastrophy on February 17, 2011, 01:13:22 PM
141.  I don't like not winning...
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 17, 2011, 01:41:13 PM
136 - well off the highs, but if you give me 1 point for every year over 50 (when the synapses in my brain began to misfire) I can add 12 points.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: leever on February 17, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
All very interesting, but Willie is still wrong and he needs more than 22 putts in a round.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: tower912 on February 17, 2011, 01:53:08 PM
You can usually start with the assumption that Willie is wrong and work from there. 
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 17, 2011, 02:29:33 PM
I like Otule and Gardner and both are ahead of Barro at this point when he played.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 03:52:43 PM
These scores are hard to believe!  I want some proof dammit!  I was feeling pretty good about myself until I came back on here and saw scores in the 140's  >:(

Edit:  This is a joke BTW
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: leever on February 17, 2011, 04:15:11 PM
I like Lenny's over 50 bonus.  That gives me 149 to edge him out by 1 point, whatever that means.

Did Willie's score get deleted?
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 17, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: leever on February 17, 2011, 04:15:11 PM
I like Lenny's over 50 bonus.  That gives me 149 to edge him out by 1 point, whatever that means.

Did Willie's score get deleted?
I think he's on his 25th practice test 
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
I do think it's kind of funny that he wanted to compare IQ and education level...and then disappeared for six hours.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on February 17, 2011, 04:33:58 PM
127 in 14 mins
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 17, 2011, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 17, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
I do think it's kind of funny that he wanted to compare IQ and education level...and then disappeared for six hours.

He's still trying to figure out how to take the test.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 17, 2011, 05:12:01 PM
Alright folks - willie may have thrown down the gauntlet first, but there's no need to be throwing jokes/insults his direction (even if some are amusing).  I think he's mature enough to take it, but y'all can stop now.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: MUCam on February 17, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
IQ tests are worthless.

My 157 didn't help me figure out how to obtain a screenshot of the score to post here.

Not to mention the IQ test did not ask if I was married. Shouldn't an IQ test dock you 50 points if you were dumb enough to marry? I believe it should, which leaves me at a 107 on the MUCam weighted IQ score.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 17, 2011, 10:35:06 PM
scored a 71 in 31 minutes.  That was my best attempt.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: wildbill sb on February 17, 2011, 11:01:30 PM
i score much lower than high person who does not speak good Croatian like me.  Thank you and may your day be nicel
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 20, 2011, 08:12:38 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:30:59 AM
Hey Man---maybe you should read the posts instead of imagining what was said.

First I have consistently said Gardner should be getting in the area of 15 minutes per game and Otule the balance. Exceptions of course for match ups, small ball etc. So yes Gardner should play more. You sir, do not know what you are talking about.

Second--if you call Otule's last two games as great games, I guess you are entitled to your opinion. I beieve he averaged abiout 6 points in those two games. That is not great. Yes Otule is improving----so is Gardner in the limited time Buzz gives him. So go ahead with your man crush on Otule, and hating on Gardner. What is Otule hauling in on rebounds---haven't checked lately, but I would be surprised if it was 4 a game. And he is the tallest guy on the floor about 90% of the time. I have said we need both of them in BEast wars. Williams is not giving enough minutes to Gardner.

End of my discussion.

Willie,

You still stand behind your 200 posts that Buzz was wrong all season and he should have been taking minutes away from Outle and give them to Gardner?
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: willie warrior on February 20, 2011, 09:11:47 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 17, 2011, 05:12:01 PM
Alright folks - willie may have thrown down the gauntlet first, but there's no need to be throwing jokes/insults his direction (even if some are amusing).  I think he's mature enough to take it, but y'all can stop now.
Thank you Rocky. But I already engaged the ignore button several days ago on several posters. I am sure they know who they are.

It is the old saying, "If you cannot support your argument with facts, call names and insults". So I choose to ignore those that have been doing so.

By the way, I thought Otule had a good first half yesterday--did not do much in second half. And Gardner had a good second half. As I have said previously, give those two guys the minutes in the post.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: warthog-driver on February 20, 2011, 10:02:49 AM
Quote from: reinko on February 17, 2011, 11:00:41 AM
Let's do it boys!  FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

http://www.iqtest.com/

They want $10 to get your result...
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Skatastrophy on February 20, 2011, 10:33:31 AM
Quote from: warthog-driver on February 20, 2011, 10:02:49 AM
They want $10 to get your result...

Nah, that's for a full report.  You can get your score emailed to you for free.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: MUCam on February 20, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 20, 2011, 10:33:31 AM
Nah, that's for a full report.  You can get your score emailed to you for free.

Skatastophy is right and you, Warthog, just received a 15 point deduction to your IQ score.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: warthog-driver on February 20, 2011, 11:39:02 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 20, 2011, 10:33:31 AM
Nah, that's for a full report.  You can get your score emailed to you for free.

Rog. Email went into the junk folder.

156 in 11 minutes
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: Warriors Forever on February 21, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
Mine was 76. Not sure how long it took because I can't tell time. I know the bagders (sic) and the bears still suck. I like dense wave division multiplexing. And I have velcro on my shoes. I am Warriors Forever.
Title: Re: Nice Call Willie Warrior!
Post by: wildbill sb on February 21, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Warriors Forever on February 21, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
Mine was 76. Not sure how long it took because I can't tell time. I know the bagders (sic) and the bears still suck. I like dense wave division multiplexing. And I have velcro on my shoes. I am Warriors Forever.

I hit 3 out of 8 three pointers in Zagreb once when playing CYO (Croatian-nation Yells Oncle), and then I give up in my best interest.  Thank you, and I have a nice day trying test again without alarm on. 

Can someone help me with long words in English?
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