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Title: DJ Newbill
Post by: Ron Paul on February 17, 2011, 12:53:52 AM
This should help stir the pot.  Newbill was #8 on ESPN's Top Ten list tonight with a nasty dunk.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Ron Paul on February 17, 2011, 12:57:31 AM
Also had 15 points and 16 rebounds, seven of which were offensive, say whatever you want about Jamil next year.  This kid could have contributed.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Doris Burkes Thong on February 17, 2011, 01:05:01 AM
Quote from: Andrew Siciliano's Ear on February 17, 2011, 12:53:52 AM
This should help stir the pot.  Newbill was #8 on ESPN's Top Ten list tonight with a nasty dunk.

Who the hell is DJ Newbill?
Can he pass, dribble, and shoot?  
Traditional or non-traditional?
Is he a switchable?
Can he work off a ball screen effectively and create for himself or others?
Could he learn the sophisticated, disciplined, and demanding defensive system that Buzz has implemented at MU?
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Ron Paul on February 17, 2011, 01:08:12 AM
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on February 17, 2011, 01:05:01 AM
Who the hell is DJ Newbill?
Can he pass, dribble, and shoot?  
Traditional or non-traditional?
Is he a switchable?
Can he work off a ball screen effectively and create for himself or others?
Could he learn the sophisticated, disciplined, and demanding defensive system that Buzz has implemented at MU?

Teal?
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2011, 05:26:19 AM
Quote from: Andrew Siciliano's Ear on February 17, 2011, 12:57:31 AM
Also had 15 points and 16 rebounds, seven of which were offensive, say whatever you want about Jamil next year.  This kid could have contributed.



Yep, Buzz jettisoned the wrong dude. Shoulda ejected Smith. Major mistake.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 17, 2011, 06:38:02 AM
I believe this is the 27th thread covering this topic.

Only the thread threads are more popular
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: groove on February 17, 2011, 06:47:33 AM
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on February 17, 2011, 01:05:01 AM
Who the hell is DJ Newbill?
Can he pass, dribble, and shoot?  
Traditional or non-traditional?
Is he a switchable?
Can he work off a ball screen effectively and create for himself or others?
Could he learn the sophisticated, disciplined, and demanding defensive system that Buzz has implemented at MU?

Don't forget about the paint touches and being 'Us'
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 06:52:32 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2011, 05:26:19 AM


Yep, Buzz jettisoned the wrong dude. Shoulda ejected Smith. Major mistake.
We have been seeing plenty of those over last couple years: Clark, Newbill Roseboro, Smith, meltdowns, selection of starters, McIlvane fiasco, etc. But hey, 40% of all players transfer, so don't worry, be happy.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 17, 2011, 06:54:21 AM
Please, not this again...
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 07:57:41 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2011, 05:26:19 AM
Yep, Buzz jettisoned the wrong dude. Shoulda ejected Smith. Major mistake.


Again...he couldn't.  Smith signed the LOI, and was already admitted to MU.  Newbill signed his LOI...but had yet to be admitted.  Newbill was the only one that he could have ejected for Wilson.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 17, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 06:52:32 AM
We have been seeing plenty of those over last couple years: Clark, Newbill Roseboro, Smith, meltdowns, selection of starters, McIlvane fiasco, etc. But hey, 40% of all players transfer, so don't worry, be happy.
Clark was a guy that was a year away from MU and only made a verbal.  Was Buzz in the room encouraging him that night?

Roseboro?  Comes off the bench for St. Bonaventure, averaging 9 minutes a game and 1 point.  That's a difference maker!

Smith, Did Buzz ask him to leave?  It was Smith's father-in-law that showed up in Buzz's office the day after Christmas demanding more playing time and designing offensive sets.  Buzz did the right thing by telling him it was his way or good-bye.

Newbill.  Buzz made a decision that he would rather have Wilson.  Cannot call this trade a bust until Wilson starts playing.  But yes, I wish he traded Smith for Wilson but that was not possible.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: jfmu on February 17, 2011, 08:40:11 AM
ive only seen him play on tv twice but in those two games his box scores are extremely deceptive. he really hangs out on the wing a lot and then when he gets the ball he drives the lane. in those games i didnt see many jump shots. obviously i have know idea how he would be at mu but he wouldnt be close to the player he is at s miss. we all know with vander that its much harder to drive the lane with these top tier beast teams
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: RubyWiscy on February 17, 2011, 08:40:51 AM
If Buzz had kept Newbill MU would be ranked in the top 10 right now! What was he thinking?!
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2011, 08:48:13 AM
Buzz coulda Roseboroed the cat.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 17, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Clark was a guy that was a year away from MU and only made a verbal.  Was Buzz in the room encouraging him that night?

Roseboro?  Comes off the bench for St. Bonaventure, averaging 9 minutes a game and 1 point.  That's a difference maker!

Smith, Did Buzz ask him to leave?  It was Smith's father-in-law that showed up in Buzz's office the day after Christmas demanding more playing time and designing offensive sets.  Buzz did the right thing by telling him it was his way or good-bye.

Newbill.  Buzz made a decision that he would rather have Wilson.  Cannot call this trade a bust until Wilson starts playing.  But yes, I wish he traded Smith for Wilson but that was not possible.

Here we go again with the excuse makers and apologists.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: tower912 on February 17, 2011, 09:25:23 AM
Here we go with the complaining.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 17, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Clark was a guy that was a year away from MU and only made a verbal.  Was Buzz in the room encouraging him that night?

Roseboro?  Comes off the bench for St. Bonaventure, averaging 9 minutes a game and 1 point.  That's a difference maker!

Smith, Did Buzz ask him to leave?  It was Smith's father-in-law that showed up in Buzz's office the day after Christmas demanding more playing time and designing offensive sets.  Buzz did the right thing by telling him it was his way or good-bye.

Newbill.  Buzz made a decision that he would rather have Wilson.  Cannot call this trade a bust until Wilson starts playing.  But yes, I wish he traded Smith for Wilson but that was not possible.
Once again, you miss the point--they were mistakes--inresponse to the posater that said Newbill was a "major mistake". Why do you insist on distorting things that I post? Maybe you made a mistake--but I doubt if you would admit to that.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: lab_warrior on February 17, 2011, 10:07:18 AM
AGAIN, NOBODY CARES. 
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on February 17, 2011, 10:15:36 AM
He's gone.  He's not a Warrior. Get over it.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: lab_warrior on February 17, 2011, 10:07:18 AM
AGAIN, NOBODY CARES. 


AGAIN...it's easy to ignore the thread...and
AGAIN...multiple responses indicate otherwise
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: reinko on February 17, 2011, 10:24:49 AM
I would take Scotty C over any of these clowns.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: groove on February 17, 2011, 11:16:53 AM
Quote from: reinko on February 17, 2011, 10:24:49 AM
I would take Scotty C over any of these clowns.

+1
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: tower912 on February 17, 2011, 11:27:29 AM
So Crean should have played him as a freshman and never left so that SC would have felt like staying.   
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 18, 2011, 12:47:46 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2011, 09:35:02 AM
Once again, you miss the point--they were mistakes--inresponse to the posater that said Newbill was a "major mistake". Why do you insist on distorting things that I post? Maybe you made a mistake--but I doubt if you would admit to that.


Clark did not set back the program as he was never part of it.

Roseboro never came here and did not take up a schollie for 4 years that could have been used elsewhere.  Mistake signing him?  Maybe, but it was corrected.

Smith was not Buzz's problem.  Smith was Smith's problem

Still don't know about Newbill until we see Wilson.
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 22, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
Ah yes...where are all the Newbill lovers tonight?  With the following line against mighty Loyola New Orleans, clearly young Mr. Newbill would have been a force to be reckoned with in the Big East. 

STARTERS               MIN      FGM-A      3PM-A      FTM-A     OREB     REB     AST    STL    BLK    TO    PF   PTS
Devonte Newbill, G   23          0-2         0-0           1-2         1           2        1       1        1      2      3     1

Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 22, 2011, 09:16:49 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 22, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
Ah yes...where are all the Newbill lovers tonight?  With the following line against mighty Loyola New Orleans, clearly young Mr. Newbill would have been a force to be reckoned with in the Big East. 

STARTERS               MIN      FGM-A      3PM-A      FTM-A     OREB     REB     AST    STL    BLK    TO    PF   PTS
Devonte Newbill, G   23          0-2         0-0           1-2         1           2        1       1        1      2      3     1



One game doesn't tell the whole story...unless he has a really good game. Then we can jump all over Buzz for "trading" Newbill instead of Smith  ;)
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 23, 2011, 07:32:52 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 22, 2011, 09:16:49 PM
One game doesn't tell the whole story...unless he has a really good game. Then we can jump all over Buzz for "trading" Newbill instead of Smith  ;)
Exactly.  I figured I'd take 5 seconds of my day to tell the other side of the story...which somehow goes missing on here most of the time, unless the other side happens to reflect on MU in a negative light. 
Title: Re: DJ Newbill
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 23, 2011, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 17, 2011, 07:57:41 AM

Again...he couldn't.  Smith signed the LOI, and was already admitted to MU.  Newbill signed his LOI...but had yet to be admitted.  Newbill was the only one that he could have ejected for Wilson.

So it was the same situation as Hazel/Saunders - with two key differences. We kept Saunders dangling until late August - Newbill had an additional 2.5 months to find a home - and our coach at the time tried to pull a Pontius Pilate and pass the buck to the admissions office (even though there was NO scholarship available for Saunders). Yet the same poster who went over the top ballistic about what the Newbill situation said about our coach, our fans and our University was totally on board for what was done to Saunders. Makes you wonder....
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