Gardner posted this on Twitter: "we are on our own fellas!!!! nobody aint with us" he later posted "U don't have to believe in me... Cause GOD does... He knows what I can do, he gave it to me!"
Is he calling out the fans here? Because if he is he should keep his mouth shut, twitter can only hurt him in a situation like this. If he's talking about the fans booing than he should man up and deal with it.
I don't read it that way at all.
No help, have to win out the hard way.
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Quote from: groove on February 16, 2011, 06:52:35 AM
Maybe he should get off his fat ass and get in shape so he can run up and down the court more than twice. Come on this is ridiculous. He is suppose to be an athletic.
Totally uncalled for
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Quote from: groove on February 16, 2011, 06:58:39 AM
No, he went through the camp, we are four months into the season and he can't play more than 2 minutes at a time? I'm sure there are smoking PGA tour players who are in better shape than he is.
What angers you so deeply to write this crap? Really. This is a real question.
I think the mods need to delete grooves posts if not the entire thread. Completely uncalled for.
Ok, agree, I deleted the posts in question. More calmly I will ask, is it not a legitmate question to ask, why is someone still so out of shape four months into the season?
Did you miss the Gtown game? Obviously he can play more than 2 minutes. He put in 12 points before fouling out in that game.
Chris Otule had 4 rejections and 8 rebounds last night and limited SJU to well under 50% on two-pointers while he was on the court so there weren't many minutes left for Davante.
The fans were out of it last night - even early on before the game fell apart.
Davante has been the best surprise of they year as a freshman.
I am glad he knows what he can do.
(Bama, he played in the GTown game for a while. 10 whole minutes.)
As for the original post / twitter .. I don't see that as a "calling out fans" .. nor would it matter, or should anyone care.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 04:30:55 AM
Gardner posted this on Twitter: "we are on our own fellas!!!! nobody aint with us"
He may be struggling in Freshman english class as well.
Def calling out the "fans"... but I don't blame him. Also posted on FB...
"ok so lets just keep it 100!...Mu fans if ur a real fan support us even when we r down, lol i see yall yelling at my coach n booing us! And thats support? How about this....try, just TRY and work as hard as we do for one day....NO i take it back, are warm ups lol im glad the real ones stayed n the fake ones left...GTST keepin it 100!"
Quote from: Tigidal on February 16, 2011, 08:12:55 AM
Def calling out the "fans"... but I don't blame him. Also posted on FB...
"ok so lets just keep it 100!...Mu fans if ur a real fan support us even when we r down, lol i see yall yelling at my coach n booing us! And thats support? How about this....try, just TRY and work as hard as we do for one day....NO i take it back, are warm ups lol im glad the real ones stayed n the fake ones left...GTST keepin it 100!"
Well then, there you have it. I don't disagree with his right to think this, but if that was really on FB, if I'm Buzz, Davante just bought himself a game on the bench, if not two.
Quote from: Tigidal on February 16, 2011, 08:12:55 AM
Def calling out the "fans"... but I don't blame him. Also posted on FB...
"ok so lets just keep it 100!...Mu fans if ur a real fan support us even when we r down, lol i see yall yelling at my coach n booing us! And thats support? How about this....try, just TRY and work as hard as we do for one day....NO i take it back, are warm ups lol im glad the real ones stayed n the fake ones left...GTST keepin it 100!"
The young among us typically lack context.
What you heard last night, whether it audible boos or hushed groans, was the culmination of three months worth of watching their program commit the same mistakes every single game.
You can only swallow frustration for so long.
There is a reason why some schools and a number of pro teams do not let their players use Twitter, Facebook, etc.
MU might want to consider a similar policy
Quote from: Tigidal on February 16, 2011, 08:12:55 AM
Def calling out the "fans"... but I don't blame him. Also posted on FB...
"ok so lets just keep it 100!...Mu fans if ur a real fan support us even when we r down, lol i see yall yelling at my coach n booing us! And thats support? How about this....try, just TRY and work as hard as we do for one day....NO i take it back, are warm ups lol im glad the real ones stayed n the fake ones left...GTST keepin it 100!"
Pretty sure that was Fulce
Fulce may have said it first and Gardner re-posted (don't see on Fulce's page)... But looking at his page right now and its there (w/ lots of "likes"/comments).
By the way... I support their perspective. Def been a tough stretch, but the players are obviously giving their all.
:-X :-[TO MUCH PLAY GROUND BALL. SICKENING!!!! An understatement---We look disorganized.
?-( :-[ :'(St. John's used to be a laughing stock in the BE, now they have passed us on the way to the top. WHY!!! Their next year's class is rated vy.high
Yes, he did call out the fans. And as disappointing as the performance was from the players, it paled in comparison to the shame we all should have felt when the team was booed. There's no excuse and no justification for that. These aren't pro athletes, and booing them doesn't show you're a "true fan". Would any of those people have booed their own kids? Because to me, that's what it felt like. Disgraceful.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 16, 2011, 10:57:19 AM
Yes, he did call out the fans. And as disappointing as the performance was from the players, it paled in comparison to the shame we all should have felt when the team was booed. There's no excuse and no justification for that. These aren't pro athletes, and booing them doesn't show you're a "true fan". Would any of those people have booed their own kids? Because to me, that's what it felt like. Disgraceful.
+1 Boo the oifficials for some calls, but NEVER boo your own team. Never. There is NO excuse for that.
The only reason to boo your own team/players is for a lack effort. This team is definitely not lacking in that dept. The booing made me squirm.
Us fans should be called out, it was pathetic to boo your own COLLEGE team, and I love Ox more now....clearly he has passion for this team and university and then we go and crap on him for it?
What the hell is wrong with us??? I get the strategy discussions and why did we do this or that, and I get frustrated because I want this team to do well, but you would think we have a bunch of 12 year olds posting on here with all the vitriol and hate being thrown about.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 16, 2011, 10:57:19 AM
Yes, he did call out the fans. And as disappointing as the performance was from the players, it paled in comparison to the shame we all should have felt when the team was booed. There's no excuse and no justification for that. These aren't pro athletes, and booing them doesn't show you're a "true fan". Would any of those people have booed their own kids? Because to me, that's what it felt like. Disgraceful.
I know I'm in the minority on this but I don't feel that much shame. Granted, I wasn't in the arena. And I wouldn't boo the kids (though I admit in frustration I do say I hate them -- jokingly, I think). But I feel that was the entire season of the same mistakes coming to the forefront and you can't say because 200 MU fans booed the team that the entire MU nation is disgraceful.
Now, what I found to be disgraceful and an embarrassment, was the constant booing directed at Dominic James and Scott Merritt during their careers. To me, that was shameful to direct it at an individual kid rather than the collective booing we saw last night which I feel was directed more at Buzz and a perceived lack of effort.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 16, 2011, 11:41:34 AM
I know I'm in the minority on this but I don't feel that much shame. Granted, I wasn't in the arena. And I wouldn't boo the kids (though I admit in frustration I do say I hate them -- jokingly, I think). But I feel that was the entire season of the same mistakes coming to the forefront and you can't say because 200 MU fans booed the team that the entire MU nation is disgraceful.
Now, what I found to be disgraceful and an embarrassment, was the constant booing directed at Dominic James and Scott Merritt during their careers. To me, that was shameful to direct it at an individual kid rather than the collective booing we saw last night which I feel was directed more at Buzz and a perceived lack of effort.
Constant booing of Dominic James?? Scott Merritt? Do others recall this? I certainly don't.
Quote from: Ners on February 16, 2011, 11:48:32 AM
Constant booing of Dominic James?? Scott Merritt? Do others recall this? I certainly don't.
I remember it in the case of James. I don't think "constant" is the word I would use to describe it though.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 04:30:55 AM
Gardner posted this on Twitter: "we are on our own fellas!!!! nobody aint with us" he later posted "U don't have to believe in me... Cause GOD does... He knows what I can do, he gave it to me!"
Is he calling out the fans here? Because if he is he should keep his mouth shut, twitter can only hurt him in a situation like this. If he's talking about the fans booing than he should man up and deal with it.
The only person that should man up and shut up is you. I applaud Devante 100%..and Fulce if he made comments calling out MU fans. The Bradley Center was pretty much quiet throughout most of the game, some boos were launched, and players and coaches read these message boards and are fully aware of the idiotic things that have been getting thrown around. And we wonder why we might have some 2nd half melt downs? These kids read a lot of the junk here...and before you know it - they start to believe it...
I was embarrassed to be a MU fan last night. Not because my team didn't win and I had to leave with a loss, but because of the pathetic display and actions of the fans. Booing your own team on your own home court is terrible. Booing Vander Blue when he makes a mistake is terrible. I don't remember being handcuffed to the seat. If you do not like what you are seeing, leave. Do not disgrace yourself and the team by booing. Hopefully this was an isolated incident.
I wonder how this looks to players being recruited. Not that we will land JP Tokoto, but I will use him as he is local and will probably hear about it. Would you want to go to a school where you fans boo you for losing a game against a good opponent at home? What about talking to Vander and asking him about how it feels to be booed after being highly sought after. I wouldn't want to pick Marquette right now if I was a recruit, if this continues.
It's a free country and you can really do whatever you want but I think treating these young men with respect and not booing them will be better in the long run.
I'm in the minority, but I want to be heard. As a fan of any team I can be negative about the team and boo them occasionally if I want to. I was at the game, in the student section, and I was booing them, the second half was pitiful and I do believe that the team gave up with about 6 minutes left, that was the disgrace. Lets remember, though these players dont get "paid" they do have a full ride to a great college and I would rather see them playing hard than playing the way they have played. Seriously what is the difference between booing a 21 year old college player and a 23 year old NBA player? And I do take offense when players, like this, try to call out the fans. If Lebron James called out the Heat fans on twitter dont you think it would be a relatively big story on ESPN, and he would apologize? Look the leaders of the team and the more mature ones (DJO, Buykes, Butler) know not to immediately act on their emotions and post something like that, ask Dan Gilbert about it. No player should ever do it period.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
As a fan of any team I can be negative about the team and boo them occasionally if I want to.
- then -
And I do take offense when players, like this, try to call out the fans.
Nice.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
I'm in the minority, but I want to be heard. As a fan of any team I can be negative about the team and boo them occasionally if I want to. I was at the game, in the student section, and I was booing them, the second half was pitiful and I do believe that the team gave up with about 6 minutes left, that was the disgrace. Lets remember, though these players dont get "paid" they do have a full ride to a great college and I would rather see them playing hard than playing the way they have played. Seriously what is the difference between booing a 21 year old college player and a 23 year old NBA player? And I do take offense when players, like this, try to call out the fans. If Lebron James called out the Heat fans on twitter dont you think it would be a relatively big story on ESPN, and he would apologize? Look the leaders of the team and the more mature ones (DJO, Buykes, Butler) know not to immediately act on their emotions and post something like that, ask Dan Gilbert about it. No player should ever do it period.
So let me get this straight. 19, 20, 21 year old fans should feel entitled to emotionally react to how their team is performing but 19, 20, 21 year old players should NOT be allowed to have an emotional reaction to their "fans" booing them on their home court when they're busting their asses daily in practice and in games.
A college scholarship is different than an NBA paycheck. Being a student athlete is different than being a pro.
Helloooooooooooooo
Quote from: 96warrior on February 16, 2011, 12:39:29 PM
So let me get this straight. 19, 20, 21 year old fans should feel entitled to emotionally react to how their team is performing but 19, 20, 21 year old players should NOT be allowed to have an emotional reaction to their "fans" booing them on their home court when they're busting their asses daily in practice and in games.
A college scholarship is different than an NBA paycheck. Being a student athlete is different than being a pro.
Helloooooooooooooo
A college scholarship is a big deal and worth alot if you arent going pro *cough* Gardner *cough*. The fans are going to react based on the way the team is performing, that goes for all sports. The players should know to keep their mouths shut and not let/show that the fans are getting to them. Posting stuff like this on facebook and twitter can only cause trouble
Why does no one understand that you undermine your own value as a fan by making this "they get paid, rabble rabble" argument?
By that measure, you have the right to boo, etc because you pay for a ticket. Yet then thats all you are, is a stockholder in the team by way of having bought in financially. The notion that the players owe you for your investment and hence can't complain about you as a fan while you can complain about them as a player is woefully misguided. It undermines your nonfinancial investments to the point that you pay for the right to participate. Thats not how it works.
You pay for the right to watch in person. You earn the right to feel participatory by watching through the bad times and by suffering and celebrating with a team - all in support. What if I buy two tickets, do I get to boo more? The financial investment is not what creates the community that is the basic reason we all flock to a thing like MU basketball. If you were the only MU fan, would it be as rewarding? Of course not. When you boo, you become nothing but a free rider, expecting other fans to carry the supportive weight until you get to come back in and jump on the winning bandwagon.
Does it follow any sort of logic that when the student section gets pumped up with a great play or a momentum swing and gets loud, shouldn't they be allowed to get just a little ticked off with some inexcusable turnovers down the stretch?
I think everyone knows that a lot of the student section, win or lose, treat it as a social event. As we saw yesterday, with the game still not out of reach, it emptied rather quickly. I do not condone booing my team unless it is well well deserved. Granted I do not think they deserved it last night but as people cited earlier, the emotion of the game affects it as well.
Everyone is allowed to have a bad game, and there were some good things done as well last night that obviously were a bit overshadowed but I think the reality of the situation is, is that we expected the level of overachieving that we got last year and though this team is not by any means bad, we condemn them as that because they are not up to last years pace of wins.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 12:43:57 PM
A college scholarship is a big deal and worth alot if you arent going pro *cough* Gardner *cough*. The fans are going to react based on the way the team is performing, that goes for all sports. The players should know to keep their mouths shut and not let/show that the fans are getting to them. Posting stuff like this on facebook and twitter can only cause trouble
I can tell you are upset by this. Do us all a favor, and boycott... permanently.
Quote from: ZaLiN on February 16, 2011, 12:55:19 PM
Does it follow any sort of logic that when the student section gets pumped up with a great play or a momentum swing and gets loud, shouldn't they be allowed to get just a little ticked off with some inexcusable turnovers down the stretch?
I think everyone knows that a lot of the student section, win or lose, treat it as a social event. As we saw yesterday, with the game still not out of reach, it emptied rather quickly. I do not condone booing my team unless it is well well deserved. Granted I do not think they deserved it last night but as people cited earlier, the emotion of the game affects it as well.
Everyone is allowed to have a bad game, and there were some good things done as well last night that obviously were a bit overshadowed but I think the reality of the situation is, is that we expected the level of overachieving that we got last year and though this team is not by any means bad, we condemn them as that because they are not up to last years pace of wins.
What is the point of booing? What does it get you? Do the players go, oh I suck I must get better because the fans are booing?
I was a freshman, 99-00, and that team "sucked", but I became a diehard with my first game...this team is light years ahead of where we were 12 years ago. How bout a little perspective. All booing does is make us look like a bunch of classless, entitled babies
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
I'm in the minority, but I want to be heard. As a fan of any team I can be negative about the team and boo them occasionally if I want to. I was at the game, in the student section, and I was booing them, the second half was pitiful and I do believe that the team gave up with about 6 minutes left, that was the disgrace. Lets remember, though these players dont get "paid" they do have a full ride to a great college and I would rather see them playing hard than playing the way they have played. Seriously what is the difference between booing a 21 year old college player and a 23 year old NBA player? And I do take offense when players, like this, try to call out the fans. If Lebron James called out the Heat fans on twitter dont you think it would be a relatively big story on ESPN, and he would apologize? Look the leaders of the team and the more mature ones (DJO, Buykes, Butler) know not to immediately act on their emotions and post something like that, ask Dan Gilbert about it. No player should ever do it period.
I'm sure you are too young, stupid, and naive to even remotely understand, but what if it was your kid getting booed out there? Would you join in because little Masterrrrr wasn't playing up to par? Booing your own son? What if it was your brother. Would you make sure he knew it was you yelling "Boo, boo, you suck, Mastorr!"
You don't have any right to boo. As a student, you are responsible for upholding
Cura Personalis. If you haven't paid enough attention to your own school, that's Latin for "Care for the Entire Person". That means supporting and caring for your fellow man, whether they are up or down. Showing respect to them whether they succeed or fail. If you can't do that, then frankly, you don't deserve to be a part of the Marquette tradition, and you're the kind of fan and student that personally I wouldn't want anywhere near our campus.
I realize that it might be a bit quaint that I still like to think that is more than a slogan, but a great deal of teachers and fellow students took an interest in me as I went through Marquette, and continue to follow up with my life, my successes, and my failures today. I think that's an integral part to the mission of Marquette. And if you have no caring or respect for that, than quite frankly, you don't deserve to be a part of the Marquette community.
Quote from: mu03eng on February 16, 2011, 11:22:03 AM
Us fans should be called out, it was pathetic to boo your own COLLEGE team, and I love Ox more now....clearly he has passion for this team and university and then we go and crap on him for it?
What the hell is wrong with us??? I get the strategy discussions and why did we do this or that, and I get frustrated because I want this team to do well, but you would think we have a bunch of 12 year olds posting on here with all the vitriol and hate being thrown about.
P_eople have been crapping on him all year long, including Buzz.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 16, 2011, 01:25:29 PM
P_eople have been crapping on him all year long, including Buzz.
And that makes it ok because????
How about the team practices more and stays out of Murphys. No lie me and my friends walk past and see them there everyday.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 01:31:49 PMHow about the team practices more and stays out of Murphys. No lie me and my friends walk past and see them there everyday.
Oh yes, they should get up at 6 am, go to practice until their first class at 9, attend all their classes until 3, taking time to get an extra lunchtime practice in, then go practice from 3 until 9 pm, study until midnight, and go to bed.
Do you have the first clue what goes on in their day? How busy they are and how hard they work? Until you walk that road, try not to judge those that do.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
How about the team practices more and stays out of Murphys. No lie me and my friends walk past and see them there everyday.
Walk in and say hi, that is one of the many benefits of a small campus with a big time basketball program... you can actually see the players in public and have a chance to interact with them. Maybe they'll tell you how they bust their ass in practice everyday so you can even have the luxury of a basketball team that you can then get pissed about and boo.
Or are they supposed to forgo a social life because they have a scholarship? Perhaps we should make them sign a contract that if they don't try as hard as the fanbase expects them to, including going to a bar at any given time instead of practicing, their scholarship should be cancelled. What a joke of a post.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
How about the team practices more and stays out of Murphys. No lie me and my friends walk past and see them there everyday.
How about you suit up for MU, and lead us to a Final Four? Wait a minute...you aren't good enough and can't. So, instead of that, how about you study extra hard and develop a cure for cancer? Or how about this - maybe you need to get a life and actually walk into Murhpy's and learn how to socialize.
The amount of hours basketball players at MU spend practicing, lifting, in season and off season is off the charts. Sounds like you have some serious jealousy toward the basketball players. Instead of getting so upset and worked up over them and their play - go find a different entertainment option - or develop yourself into a Big East Caliber point guard and led them to victory.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
How about the team practices more and stays out of Murphys. No lie me and my friends walk past and see them there everyday.
Maybe you and your friends should boo them and see what happens.
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
How about the team practices more and stays out of Murphys. No lie me and my friends walk past and see them there everyday.
I tell you what, why don't you quit hiding by being an anonymous keyboard ninja and walk into Murphy's and boo them to their face. Why don't you share with them personally how they have let you down?
Quote from: mu03eng on February 16, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
I tell you what, why don't you quit hiding by being an anonymous keyboard ninja and walk into Murphy's and boo them to their face. Why don't you share with them personally how they have let you down?
Beat you by 14 seconds!
I think that after the next game we should all rush the court and spit on everybody we don't like.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 16, 2011, 01:19:59 PM
You don't have any right to boo. As a student, you are responsible for upholding Cura Personalis. If you haven't paid enough attention to your own school, that's Latin for "Care for the Entire Person". That means supporting and caring for your fellow man, whether they are up or down. Showing respect to them whether they succeed or fail. If you can't do that, then frankly, you don't deserve to be a part of the Marquette tradition, and you're the kind of fan and student that personally I wouldn't want anywhere near our campus.
I'd like to see some basketball players show up and boo Masterr while he has trouble answering a test question or struggles with a concept while studying or screws up an order while working at The Brew Bayou. It would be a variation of comedian's revenge.
(Is The Brew Bayou still around?)
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
I'm in the minority, but I want to be heard. As a fan of any team I can be negative about the team and boo them occasionally if I want to. I was at the game, in the student section, and I was booing them, the second half was pitiful and I do believe that the team gave up with about 6 minutes left, that was the disgrace. Lets remember, though these players dont get "paid" they do have a full ride to a great college and I would rather see them playing hard than playing the way they have played. Seriously what is the difference between booing a 21 year old college player and a 23 year old NBA player? And I do take offense when players, like this, try to call out the fans. If Lebron James called out the Heat fans on twitter dont you think it would be a relatively big story on ESPN, and he would apologize? Look the leaders of the team and the more mature ones (DJO, Buykes, Butler) know not to immediately act on their emotions and post something like that, ask Dan Gilbert about it. No player should ever do it period.
1. Yes you are in the minority. On this board and at the game. MOST fans at the game were NOT booing THEIR team. You know why? becuase it is THERI team.
2. You think you earn the right to boo these kids because you paid for a ticket. Do you yell "FIRE!" in theaters too?. The second you BOO YOUR TEAM - it is no longer YOUR team. I am certain you do NOT have a team you support. You gave that up.
Quote from: MUBurrow on February 16, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
Why does no one understand that you undermine your own value as a fan by making this "they get paid, rabble rabble" argument?
By that measure, you have the right to boo, etc because you pay for a ticket. Yet then thats all you are, is a stockholder in the team by way of having bought in financially. The notion that the players owe you for your investment and hence can't complain about you as a fan while you can complain about them as a player is woefully misguided. It undermines your nonfinancial investments to the point that you pay for the right to participate. Thats not how it works.
You pay for the right to watch in person. You earn the right to feel participatory by watching through the bad times and by suffering and celebrating with a team - all in support. What if I buy two tickets, do I get to boo more? The financial investment is not what creates the community that is the basic reason we all flock to a thing like MU basketball. If you were the only MU fan, would it be as rewarding? Of course not. When you boo, you become nothing but a free rider, expecting other fans to carry the supportive weight until you get to come back in and jump on the winning bandwagon.
I'm also of the opinion that it is the struggle that defines someone as a true fan. If you aren't there for the suffering, then you simply can't participate in the celebration to the extent that someone who stayed all in for the lean years can. And when you boo, or more importantly, feel entitled to start booing this team, you choose to give up on them at the very time that should be defining you as an MU college basketball fan.
Analogies to the professional world are so off target... I do not consider myself a "client" of MU basketball anymore than I was a "client" of the University when I was a student. If you believe that, you have an incredibly cynical view of what a University is. That imagery so undermines the entire idea of being a fan of something...
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 16, 2011, 01:51:14 PMI'd like to see some basketball players show up and boo Masterr while he has trouble answering a test question or struggles with a concept while studying or screws up an order while working at The Brew Bayou. It would be a variation of comedian's revenge.
(Is The Brew Bayou still around?)
LOL
Not sure if the Brew Bayou is still around or not. I was down in that area a couple weeks back, but the girlfriend didn't want coffee, so I didn't walk to that side of the AMU. But I planned on getting down there this weekend, I'll try to remember to check ;)
Quote from: shiloh26 on February 16, 2011, 01:58:17 PM
I'm also of the opinion that it is the struggle that defines someone as a true fan. If you aren't there for the suffering, then you simply can't participate in the celebration to the extent that someone who stayed all in for the lean years can. And when you boo, or more importantly, feel entitled to start booing this team, you choose to give up on them at the very time that should be defining you as an MU college basketball fan.
Analogies to the professional world are so off target... I do not consider myself a "client" of MU basketball anymore than I was a "client" of the University when I was a student. If you believe that, you have an incredibly cynical view of what a University is. That imagery so undermines the entire idea of being a fan of something...
To steal the concept from Buzz, Masterr has had his bottle tipped as an MU fan and discovered it is filled with s#!t
Quote from: shiloh26 on February 16, 2011, 01:58:17 PM
I'm also of the opinion that it is the struggle that defines someone as a true fan. If you aren't there for the suffering, then you simply can't participate in the celebration to the extent that someone who stayed all in for the lean years can. And when you boo, or more importantly, feel entitled to start booing this team, you choose to give up on them at the very time that should be defining you as an MU college basketball fan.
That's false, just because I boo does not mean that I am no suffering with the team, it only means that i am upset with they way they are playing. Say what you will I was there and i saw a team quit and so did most of the student section. Just because I boo doesnt mean I hate the team. Booing should also motivate a team to play better. Are all of you on this board saying that you have never boo'd your team. I understand what some of you are saying that adults shouldnt boo college kids, but I am attending Marquette now so does that mean I can boo them? I think so. If no one ever boo'd their team or got mad at their team then your team would be, or like, the Chicago Cubs.
sorry I wrote that wrong
That's false, just because I boo does not mean that I am no suffering with the team, it only means that i am upset with they way they are playing. Say what you will I was there and i saw a team quit and so did most of the student section. Just because I boo doesnt mean I hate the team. Booing should also motivate a team to play better. Are all of you on this board saying that you have never boo'd your team. I understand what some of you are saying that adults shouldnt boo college kids, but I am attending Marquette now so does that mean I can boo them? I think so. If no one ever boo'd their team or got mad at their team then your team would be, or like, the Chicago Cubs.
And I dont think any of the basketball players are in position to boo me while im taking my tests, they should really worry about their own ;)
Quote from: Masterr73 on February 16, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
And I dont think any of the basketball players are in position to boo me while im taking my tests, they should really worry about their own ;)
Just admit it, you were dating a hella fine chick, and she dumped your candy ass for a ball player.
Quote from: Ners on February 16, 2011, 11:48:32 AM
Constant booing of Dominic James?? Scott Merritt? Do others recall this? I certainly don't.
There were some boo-birds for DJ relative to his FT shooting; but, thats about it.
WTF is wrong with being in Murphy's every night? I did 6 nights steady for 2+ years, and 7 nights during finals.
Quote from: mu03eng on February 16, 2011, 01:27:29 PM
And that makes it ok because????
Never said it was OK. Just reporting facts. Why read more into it?
I heard boos and was real disappointed. We have gotten tremendous effort from this team and its coach. Last night I thought a couple of the players were just worn down... and it showed. They happened to be guards and that really hurt us last night.
My son has never seen a game where that happened with our team and he was just shocked. He was even more shocked at the boo birds.
Let's move on. This critical behavior is self-destructive. I sure hope we did not have any recruits in the house last night.
As far as Dominic James receiving boos, I don't recall that.
I do recall Merritt getting booed by a bunch of no-nothings when he was a senior. They had no idea how important he was to this team the year before or that year. He was "a" man, not "the" man. The year before we had 5 men out there. When Wade and Rob Jackson left, they concentrated on Merritt much more. His spin move was something that brought most of the boos...but it was not a lack of effort situation....
Quote from: Rudy on February 16, 2011, 04:54:33 PM
I heard boos and was real disappointed. We have gotten tremendous effort from this team and its coach. Last night I thought a couple of the players were just worn down... and it showed. They happened to be guards and that really hurt us last night.
My son has never seen a game where that happened with our team and he was just shocked. He was even more shocked at the boo birds.
Let's move on. This critical behavior is self-destructive. I sure hope we did not have any recruits in the house last night.
As far as Dominic James receiving boos, I don't recall that.
I do recall Merritt getting booed by a bunch of no-nothings when he was a senior. They had no idea how important he was to this team the year before or that year. He was "a" man, not "the" man. The year before we had 5 men out there. When Wade and Rob Jackson left, they concentrated on Merritt much more. His spin move was something that brought most of the boos...but it was not a lack of effort situation....
DJ got boos for free throws and ill-advised 3's. Merritt just had some people that didn't like him and booed him. but nothing like last night.
DJ and Merritt got some wrath from certain fans. But its the same as Tuesday night, it wasn't from everybody but its enough to make an impression.
Merritt was bboed because SOME felt that he did not live up to THEIR expectations.
Sound familiar?
Quote from: ZiggysF*ckinFryBoy on February 16, 2011, 04:24:36 PM
WTF is wrong with being in Murphy's every night? I did 6 nights steady for 2+ years, and 7 nights during finals.
And you are now the head glass partition cleaner what the wack shack.
Quote from: reinko on February 17, 2011, 10:30:30 AM
And you are now the head glass partition cleaner what the wack shack.
nope, just got promoted to Senior Jizz Mopper. 4never is my boss.
I hope he did. I turned off the game with about 5 minutes left not because we were losing (we were) or that I was disappointed with our play (I was extremely). I turned off the game because I was disgusted and embarrassed with our fans. Pathetic. Every single person there booing should give up their tickets. I lived through bad basketball. 84-88. I was at every home game that I occurred while I was on campus. I never booed. I cursed all of the way back to campus, but they were my team and my classmates and I would never boo a classmate. Maybe it is a generational thing.
Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2011, 11:26:15 AM
I hope he did. I turned off the game with about 5 minutes left not because we were losing (we were) or that I was disappointed with our play (I was extremely). I turned off the game because I was disgusted and embarrassed with our fans. Pathetic. Every single person there booing should give up their tickets. I lived through bad basketball. 84-88. I was at every home game that I occurred while I was on campus. I never booed. I cursed all of the way back to campus, but they were my team and my classmates and I would never boo a classmate. Maybe it is a generational thing.
I don't think the limited people were booing bad basketball.
Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2011, 11:26:15 AM
I hope he did. I turned off the game with about 5 minutes left not because we were losing (we were) or that I was disappointed with our play (I was extremely). I turned off the game because I was disgusted and embarrassed with our fans. Pathetic. Every single person there booing should give up their tickets. I lived through bad basketball. 84-88. I was at every home game that I occurred while I was on campus. I never booed. I cursed all of the way back to campus, but they were my team and my classmates and I would never boo a classmate. Maybe it is a generational thing.
You got nothing on my bad years, 87-91 which included all 3 of the Dukiet reign. At least we had Tony Smith to enjoy.
I was at the game sitting in front of a booer spewing profanities in my kid's ear (have a little respect please; what a jerk). He is an awful fan but I think people at the game that were booing were sending the boos in the direction of Buzz, not necessarily the players (other than maybe DB a couple times after some awful passes).
I'm not supporting the booing at all, and I'm still fully behind Buzz at this point. But I do admit I'm getting a little frustrated with this team, our defense, and our rebounding. I certainly hope it turns around soon. Still doesn't justify the bo birds.
We won the rebounding the last two games. Just couldn't secure the crucial ones.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 17, 2011, 11:58:21 AM
I don't think the limited people were booing bad basketball.
What were they booing? The concessions? Beer prices? Cheerleaders? Dance Team? Gene Keady's Combover?
Quote from: Eford4President2012 on February 17, 2011, 12:51:54 PM
Gene Keady's Combover?
Didn't someone here (or on rivals) used to have that user-name? lol
Quote from: Earl Tatum on February 16, 2011, 10:05:53 AM
?-( :-[ :'(St. John's used to be a laughing stock in the BE, now they have passed us on the way to the top. WHY!!! Their next year's class is rated vy.high
The nine freshmen they got are much higher rated than the nine seniors that they're losing were. BUT.. they will be freshmen and they will have a ton of growing pains. There is no way that we will lose to them in New York next year.
Quote from: ZiggysF*ckinFryBoy on February 16, 2011, 04:24:36 PM
WTF is wrong with being in Murphy's every night? I did 6 nights steady for 2+ years, and 7 nights during finals.
No way, is that you Will?
Quote from: Mutaman on February 16, 2011, 01:50:41 PM
I think that after the next game we should all rush the court and spit on everybody we don't like.
This is a completely stupid idea... the officials get off the floor way too quickly!
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 16, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
LOL
Not sure if the Brew Bayou is still around or not. I was down in that area a couple weeks back, but the girlfriend didn't want coffee, so I didn't walk to that side of the AMU. But I planned on getting down there this weekend, I'll try to remember to check ;)
Don't forget to boo! ;)
I never booed the team while I was there during the Mike Deane era, mostly because I expected a crappy effort and rarely stayed until the end. I usually went because I could get free tickets and have a few beers. I knew a few of the players and thought they were nice guys.
Last year I went to a game and was seeing tickets 10 rows from the top going on stub hub at $75 per. I've been to recent road games where MU fans nearly outnumbered the home fans. I just cancelled dinner with my mother because I realized it conflicted with the Providence game. Providence. I have maybe 10 Marquette shirts and my wife could tell you our rotation (despite having no connection to the school). I read every day about 18 yr. old kids who are 1000 miles away from me and have no idea who I am. I have given a not insignificant amount of money to the University.
I wouldn't boo them in person, but I was pissed off at the second half effort against St. John's and I was pissed at the letdown at Louisville. The second half collapses are predictable and becoming more pronounced. I have no issue with them being aware that fans are unhappy with the effort. I played in high school and have heard boo birds at that level - way below high major D1 ball. If DG or anyone else has an issue with that they should play at a place like UWM where nobody pays attention.
And please stop with comments about how Jimmy Butler doesn't show up at my office to boo me when I spill my coffee. That is idiotic. He is a celebrity and will always be under more scrutiny than a regular schmuck. Besides, he is welcome to show up at my office anytime. There.
And speaking of Providence, they are getting booed at home right now.
Quote from: Jacks DC on February 17, 2011, 09:23:52 PM
I never booed the team while I was there during the Mike Deane era, mostly because I expected a crappy effort and rarely stayed until the end. I usually went because I could get free tickets and have a few beers. I knew a few of the players and thought they were nice guys.
Last year I went to a game and was seeing tickets 10 rows from the top going on stub hub at $75 per. I've been to recent road games where MU fans nearly outnumbered the home fans. I just cancelled dinner with my mother because I realized it conflicted with the Providence game. Providence. I have maybe 10 Marquette shirts and my wife could tell you our rotation (despite having no connection to the school). I read every day about 18 yr. old kids who are 1000 miles away from me and have no idea who I am. I have given a not insignificant amount of money to the University.
I wouldn't boo them in person, but I was pissed off at the second half effort against St. John's and I was pissed at the letdown at Louisville. The second half collapses are predictable and becoming more pronounced. I have no issue with them being aware that fans are unhappy with the effort. I played in high school and have heard boo birds at that level - way below high major D1 ball. If DG or anyone else has an issue with that they should play at a place like UWM where nobody pays attention.
And please stop with comments about how Jimmy Butler doesn't show up at my office to boo me when I spill my coffee. That is idiotic. He is a celebrity and will always be under more scrutiny than a regular schmuck. Besides, he is welcome to show up at my office anytime. There.
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