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Title: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: texaswarrior74 on February 14, 2011, 09:15:26 PM
"Making the cut for Tokoto is Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Marquette, Maryland, North Carolina, UCLA, and Wisconsin."


http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=2&cid=1048361&nid=4319001&fhn=1
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: cheebs09 on February 14, 2011, 09:19:27 PM
Wow, no Duke. Although they got a very good SF commitment recently. I'm glad we are still in it. He's got a lot of quality choices there.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: romey on February 14, 2011, 09:22:32 PM
I don't follow the recruiting trail very closely, but I'd be curious to hear if anyone knows why Maryland is in the mix.  Us and UW are the local schools and the rest are pretty rich in tradition and, with the exception of maybe UCLA, are pretty strong programs right now.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 14, 2011, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: romey on February 14, 2011, 09:22:32 PM
I don't follow the recruiting trail very closely, but I'd be curious to hear if anyone knows why Maryland is in the mix.  Us and UW are the local schools and the rest are pretty rich in tradition and, with the exception of maybe UCLA, are pretty strong programs right now.

Well, UCLA did go to three Final Fours in the last 5 years.  They have a very good class lined up coming in and should be back to doing some pretty serious business next year.  They're likely to limp into the NCAAs this year considering the remainder of their schedule.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Marquette65 on February 14, 2011, 10:31:10 PM
UNC here I come
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: bobnoxious on February 14, 2011, 10:32:56 PM
Yes we would all like it if you did move down there, but to an area where they don't have internet or Waffle Houses yet.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: dmjt4160 on February 14, 2011, 10:37:18 PM
Maryland is not really in the mix. Not sure why he felt the need to include us but hes not coming to MD.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2011, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: bobnoxious on February 14, 2011, 10:32:56 PM
Yes we would all like it if you did move down there, but to an area where they don't have internet or Waffle Houses yet.

With you on the no internet, but you can't wish even your worst enemy a trailer in NC that's not within walking distance of a Waffle House. That's cruel and unusual punishment, man.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: texaswarrior74 on February 14, 2011, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2011, 10:45:34 PM
With you on the no internet, but you can't wish even your worst enemy a trailer in NC that's not within walking distance of a Waffle House. That's cruel and unusual punishment, man.


Waffle House?....the place everyone misses when they leave the Carolinas now is Bojangles.....it's THE spot for breakfast, lunch or dinner......
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Knight Commission on February 15, 2011, 05:24:54 AM
He identifies with older coaches. All are 50+ except for Self (who is 48) and Buzz.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: TVDirector on February 15, 2011, 05:53:43 AM
and only the 1 big ten team.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: willie warrior on February 15, 2011, 06:31:24 AM
Great that we are in the mix, but 8 schools, yet. And UCONN--give me a break.

I hope he does not pull a Joe Wolf.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: jaybilaswho? on February 15, 2011, 08:24:08 AM
I know we had a thread last week about the Journal Sentinel not including MU on its home page very often, but this is ridiculous: http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/116204139.html (http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/116204139.html) MU is only mentioned in the list of 8. Give me a break. They couldn't put UW and MU in the final 8 for Falls' junior Tokoto? Its a simple addition of 5 more letters.

UW in the final 8 for Falls' junior Tokoto

Madison - J.P. Tokoto of Menomonee Falls High School, one of the top wing prospects in the nation for the 2012 freshman class, has narrowed his list of potential colleges to eight schools.

They are: Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Marquette, Maryland, North Carolina, UCLA and Wisconsin.

The information comes from his AAU coach, Ritchie Davis.

Tokoto was among the recruits in attendance to see UW upset then-No. 1 Ohio State, 71-67, Saturday at the Kohl Center.

UW has already secured an oral commitment from Sam Dekker of Sheboygan Lutheran for the 2012 class and expects to have one other scholarship available.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 15, 2011, 08:27:07 AM
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on February 15, 2011, 08:24:08 AM
I know we had a thread last week about the Journal Sentinel not including MU on its home page very often, but this is ridiculous: http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/116204139.html (http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/116204139.html) MU is only mentioned in the list of 8. Give me a break. They couldn't put UW and MU in the final 8 for Falls' junior Tokoto? Its a simple addition of 5 more letters.

It was posted by the Badger eat writer, in the badger blog. Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: jaybilaswho? on February 15, 2011, 08:38:07 AM
I didnt see it in the Badgers Blog only saw it from the News Watch feed on the top right corner. Even still though, wouldnt you include MU in it since they are not only an instate rival but also the only other team on the list that you will play every year. doesn't it paint the bigger picture of the importance of this instate recruit?
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: drewm88 on February 15, 2011, 09:21:46 AM
In case JP is wondering what my opinion is...

1. Marquette
2-6. Don't Care
7. UConn
42. Wisconsin
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Benny B on February 15, 2011, 09:31:05 AM
Quote from: drewm88 on February 15, 2011, 09:21:46 AM
In case JP is wondering what my opinion is...

1. Marquette
2-6. Don't Care
7. UConn
42. Wisconsin

Is that where Wisconsin falls in your hierarchy or are you reminding us their average PPG.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 15, 2011, 09:31:53 AM
It would be great to Watch JP play for Marquette.  He would look really good in Marquette's colors!
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2011, 09:39:33 AM
Anyone know if JP has any James Taylor on his Ipod?
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 15, 2011, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: Knight Commission on February 15, 2011, 05:24:54 AM
He identifies with older coaches. All are 50+ except for Self (who is 48) and Buzz.

That's an excellent point and an aspect of this recruitment to keep an eye on.

Every one of those coaches except Buzz is quite accomplished and has won some big, big games. I'm not sure the divide between them and Buzz will be played up on the surface of this story but if Tokoto is pulled in by the sway of Buzz it will really say something about the MU program.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: MUfan12 on February 15, 2011, 09:45:59 AM
In most cases I'm wary of the role the parents play in the recruitment, but in this case I really think it helps MU. They seem to really like Buzz, to the point of going to games without JP. Hope that bodes well for us.

Not holding my breath, but landing him would be huge.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: GGGG on February 15, 2011, 09:47:09 AM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 15, 2011, 09:42:19 AM
That's an excellent point and an aspect of this recruitment to keep an eye on.

Every one of those coaches except Buzz is quite accomplished and has won some big, big games. I'm not sure the divide between them and Buzz will be played up on the surface of this story but if Tokoto is pulled in by the sway of Buzz it will really say something about the MU program.


Yeah...it basically says that we are the local option if he decides to play close to home.  Let's face it, if Tokoto were in NYC, he wouldn't likely be looking at Marquette or Wisconsin.  Don't get me wrong, it would mean a lot because he would have enough confidence in Buzz to afford the luxury of being close to home, but I don't think it means we are going to be going head-to-head regularly with the likes of UNC or Kansas for prospects.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Ari Gold on February 15, 2011, 09:47:46 AM
he could cut the list to four, UW and MU will still be in there but honestly the list is 2. UNC and Duke. He'll only keep the Wisconsin schools on their for state loyalty.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 15, 2011, 09:50:04 AM
Quote from: Ari Gold on February 15, 2011, 09:47:46 AM
he could cut the list to four, UW and MU will still be in there but honestly the list is 2. UNC and Duke. He'll only keep the Wisconsin schools on their for state loyalty.

Duke didn't make his top 8.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: GGGG on February 15, 2011, 09:51:17 AM
Quote from: Ari Gold on February 15, 2011, 09:47:46 AM
he could cut the list to four, UW and MU will still be in there but honestly the list is 2. UNC and Duke. He'll only keep the Wisconsin schools on their for state loyalty.


Duke's not one of the 8...but I think your premise is accurate.  MU and UW are local fall backs...and may end up being a choice should he decide that playing close to home is important.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: marquette99 on February 15, 2011, 10:04:08 AM
Chicos - are you suggesting ucla still has a great tradition despite missing the final 4 TWICE in the last 5 years!
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Ari Gold on February 15, 2011, 10:32:33 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 15, 2011, 09:51:17 AM

Duke's not one of the 8...but I think your premise is accurate.  MU and UW are local fall backs...and may end up being a choice should he decide that playing close to home is important.

Right right... noted... no Duke.
UNC is the odds on favorite still.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2011, 10:48:24 AM
I'm figurin' the list really consists of Carolina and UW. Marquette will remain on it till the end to minimize the fallout factor.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: brewcity77 on February 15, 2011, 10:56:41 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2011, 10:48:24 AM
I'm figurin' the list really consists of Carolina and UW. Marquette will remain on it till the end to minimize the fallout factor.

I'd agree with UNC, but I think that it's Marquette and not UW. Where do you find JP at every annual Madness event? Where is he for the Selection Show? He comes to pretty much everything we put on, and Marquette suits his game better than the Badgers. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like he spends more time at Marquette than at UW.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 15, 2011, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 15, 2011, 09:47:09 AM

Yeah...it basically says that we are the local option if he decides to play close to home.  Let's face it, if Tokoto were in NYC, he wouldn't likely be looking at Marquette or Wisconsin.  Don't get me wrong, it would mean a lot because he would have enough confidence in Buzz to afford the luxury of being close to home, but I don't think it means we are going to be going head-to-head regularly with the likes of UNC or Kansas for prospects.

But why have two local schools?

We all know that UNC is the ideal. The others are hanging around for the chance to tempt with an apple. It seems redundant to have both MU and UW in there simply for the "local option". Should just be UW. Why the lip service to MU?

When you look at that list, one of those coaches doesn't fit. MU won't land Tokoto which is why I wrote it would be saying something about the program if Buzz were to sway the kid.

Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2011, 11:00:01 AM
Anyone know if he'll be at MU for Selection Sunday this season?
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: GGGG on February 15, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 15, 2011, 10:57:26 AM
But why have two local schools?


Maybe he is undecided between the two should he decide to go local.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: whodem on February 15, 2011, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2011, 10:48:24 AM
I'm figurin' the list really consists of Carolina and UW. Marquette will remain on it till the end to minimize the fallout factor.

Agreed completely.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: NCMUFan on February 15, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
I hope Tokoto ends up at Marquette, but please, NC is a great state.  Glad I am in NC though I appreciate my upbringing in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: APieperFan3 on February 15, 2011, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on February 15, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
I hope Tokoto ends up at Marquette, but please, NC is a great state.  Glad I am in NC though I appreciate my upbringing in Wisconsin.

good golf there too!! I'm entertaining the idea of moving out there myself.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: MU Chi_IL on February 15, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
Per Adam Zagoria via twitter:
6-5 Wisconsin 2012 SF JP Tokoto says he's "going to UNC and Maryland within the next few weeks" and to UCLA in March
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 15, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: Knight Commission on February 15, 2011, 05:24:54 AM
He identifies with older coaches. All are 50+ except for Self (who is 48) and Buzz.

Interesting observation
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 15, 2011, 02:25:54 PM
Quote from: marquette99 on February 15, 2011, 10:04:08 AM
Chicos - are you suggesting ucla still has a great tradition despite missing the final 4 TWICE in the last 5 years!

I'm going to make an exception, but only this time and say yes.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Goose on February 15, 2011, 02:28:37 PM
I have heard from fairly reliable source that his interest in MU is very sincere and not to count us out. The same source told me Wilson would end up at MU. Tokoto can plainly see we will have ton of talent next season and be fun to watch. Longer he takes the better our chances in my opinion.
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: lab_warrior on February 15, 2011, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Marquette65 on February 14, 2011, 10:31:10 PM
UNC here I come


Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 15, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
I like what Goose says. 
Title: Re: Tokoto Narrows List to Eight...MU Still In It
Post by: willie warrior on February 15, 2011, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: msbjim on February 15, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
I like what Goose says. 
Yeah--what he said.
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