I used Pomeroy to determine the records/ seeds for the Big East Tournament.
1. Pitt (14-4)
2. ND (as result of their tie breaking wins over Louisville and Villanova at home, luck of the Irish) (12-6)
3. Villanova (as result of their win over Louisville) (12-6)
4. Louisville (12-6)
5. West Virginia (11-7, wins over UConn and Georgetown)
6. UConn (11-7, win over Georgetown)
7. Georgetown (11-7)
8. Marquette (10-8, wins over Syracuse and Cincy)
9. Syracuse (10-8, win over Cincy)
10. Cincy (10-8)
11. St. John's (8-10)
12. Seton Hall (7-11)
13/ 14. Rutgers/ Providence (Not sure who would get this tie breaker, since they are supposed to split this year (6-12))
15. South Florida (4-14)
16. DePaul (1-17)
If it works out for MU (beat Cincy), they would play Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville and ND to win the Big East. That's if the higher seeds win.
Getting 8th would be huge at 10-8. Then even a loss to a syracuse and we stay in. Dropto a 9 seed and then lay an egg against depaul and we are hurt.
I'd almost rather fall to the 10th spot, beat South Fla., add another win to the total record, and then get ND in the 2nd round instead of Pitt.
Quote from: MUDPT on January 31, 2011, 06:00:15 PM
13/ 14. Rutgers/ Providence (Not sure who would get this tie breaker, since they are supposed to split this year (6-12))
After the "mini conference" tiebreaker, the next tiebreaker defaults to the best team beaten (14-4 Pitt), or the best win percentage against the best group of teams (12-6 ND, 'ville, 'nova).
http://bigeast.org/fls/19400/pdfs/men_basketball/tie-breaker10.pdf
This explains it better...
More intriguing question....does St. Johns get in the Big Dance at 8-10 and a win in the Big East Tournament? If not, does it get in at 9-9?
A lot of people are projecting St. Johns in the field right now. But are they assuming they will exceed Pomeroy's expectations?
FWIW, I think St. Johns could definitely get in at 9-9, IF they can knock off UCLA on the road, coupled with their impressive win over Duke.
Quote from: Victor McCormick on February 01, 2011, 11:51:50 AM
More intriguing question....does St. Johns get in the Big Dance at 8-10 and a win in the Big East Tournament? If not, does it get in at 9-9?
A lot of people are projecting St. Johns in the field right now. But are they assuming they will exceed Pomeroy's expectations?
FWIW, I think St. Johns could definitely get in at 9-9, IF they can knock off UCLA on the road, coupled with their impressive win over Duke.
With how soft the bubble is, I think pretty much any Big East team that goes 9-9 will have a good shot. With a strong RPI and a few good wins it should be enough. St. John's is projected a 44 RPI, easily good enough to get in, and has wins over Duke, Georgetown, Notre Dame, and West Virginia on the road. The problem for them is bad losses to St. Bonaventure at home and (ugh) Fordham on the road.
If they beat Rutgers, DePaul, and USF at home, that gets them to 7 Big East wins. The problem is that they will probably need two more wins. Their only other home games are UConn and Pitt, both very tough opponents, and they travel to Cincy, Marquette, 'Nova, and Seton Hall. Win two of those six, beat UCLA on the road, and they should be in. If they can only win one of those six, they'll probably need a win or two in the BEast tournament. Still, with a very soft bubble, 8-10 in the clear-cut toughest conference in the land may just do it.