They were great down the stretch to help propel the team to get over that mental hurdle of blowing games. HUGE win.
Student Section was beautiful today. Some idiots left to drink, but the ones that stayed. True fans.
Agreed. I think the crowd ramped it up down the stretch.
The BC was ROCKIN' today!
I will always complain about the crowd until we move the Geritol dependent alums away from mid-court. Watching the games on TV I can never appreciation the crowd because I'm primarily looking at an incredibly lame group of old people who don't take care of themselves and don't want to be distracted by anyone standing up in their way of the game. I appreciate their support but would appreciate them even more if they were moved or stayed at home. It looks like FLA
Quote from: Markaz3 on January 29, 2011, 05:26:07 PM
I will always complain about the crowd until we move the Geritol dependent alums away from mid-court. Watching the games on TV I can never appreciation the crowd because I'm primarily looking at an incredibly lame group of old people who don't take care of themselves and don't want to be distracted by anyone standing up in their way of the game. I appreciate their support but would appreciate them even more if they were moved or stayed at home. It looks like FLA
Those are the people that provide the majority of the financial support for the program.
They are and I appreciate them for that. But it's hard to watch.
Quote from: Markaz3 on January 29, 2011, 05:26:07 PM
I will always complain about the crowd until we move the Geritol dependent alums away from mid-court. Watching the games on TV I can never appreciation the crowd because I'm primarily looking at an incredibly lame group of old people who don't take care of themselves and don't want to be distracted by anyone standing up in their way of the game. I appreciate their support but would appreciate them even more if they were moved or stayed at home. It looks like FLA
How can anyone judge a crowd by TV. They don't show the crowd, they show the game.
99% of the games have old rich alums in the first few seats.
Really? 99%?
Quote from: Markaz3 on January 29, 2011, 05:40:22 PM
Really? 99%?
What is important to a high major recruit? Playing in a 7,000 seat arena packed with crazy kids or in an NBA arena in front of 15,000 (seats 19,000) and Brandon Jennings and/or John Wall is watching.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 29, 2011, 05:53:55 PM
What is important to a high major recruit? Playing in a 7,000 seat arena packed with crazy kids or in an NBA arena in front of 15,000 (seats 19,000) and Brandon Jennings and/or John Wall is watching.
BUT THE TEAM WILL PLAY BETTER!!!!
Those old farts in the expensive seats subsidize the seats of the students, who don't take care of themselves,
Crowd was great! 200 Syracuse fans at the game. They were nice people to talk to. They just cheered for the Orange, didn't saying anything bad about MU, unlike the DePaul fans.
I am out of town so I watched the game at the bar. No sound. And I could still tell the BC was rocking. A few times, I remember thinking, "Wow, I bet its LOUD there"...and sure enough...everyone on their feet.
Great job students and alumni!
(NOW KEEP IT UPPPPPPPPPP)
Speaking as an "old fart" who has been going to MU games for over 45 years, I am just as big of a fan as those "younger-types" who will fall off the wagon as time goes on while jumping on the next "wagon" of excitement. Older fans do not cheer with the same excitement as they once did when the likes of Whitehead, Bo Ellis, Maurice and George ran the Arena court, but they are every bit excited to see THIS team beat the likes of Syracuse and Notre Lame. Likely, many of them were probably lectured by Digger Phelps for mistreating and disrespecting his "choir boys" and did not like the hot dogs being tossed at his team...
As an "old fart" now, I have season tickets in the upper level behind the basket 5 rows from top. I get these seats because that is what I am willing to pay for now. I knew that if I wanted to get the "old farts" seats it would cost me much more $$ and time and decided against it. Want the seats, pay the money in university athletic alumni organizations, and pay the higher price for your season tix....for the next 40 years or longer!!! Then someday you can be an "old fart" too.
Go Warriors!!!
Well said rico.
The "old farts" provide the $$ to keep this program competitive in the BE. Students need to learn to appreciate that.
The 'old fart' complaint has been going on since at least the mid 80's when I was in the student section. We actually used to boo them.....while cheering madly for mediocre teams. The old farts paid the big $'s to have those seats. The way of the world.
I am in Kansas and go to quite a few games at the Phog....incredible environment and I can tell you the old, young and midlings go frickin' wild. The students are at either end of the arena and the boosters sit courtside...it is a different arena (obviously) than the BC, but, everyone is into the game with that tradition. The only reason I bring it up is that fanaticism is a culture, more than a student body vs. alumni type thing at some schools.
That being said, watching MU on TV today it was clear that if a crowd could "will" a team to hang on and win...they were present, loud, strong and unifed at the Bradley Center today.
P.S....I was at the Bradley Center two years ago for senior day with the 3 amigos (and Burke) and watched a soulmunching OT loss to Syracuse. The old farts courtside sure made a lot of noise that day.
Quote from: mupanther on January 29, 2011, 06:17:49 PM
Crowd was great! 200 Syracuse fans at the game. They were nice people to talk to. They just cheered for the Orange, didn't saying anything bad about MU, unlike the DePaul fans.
I haven't had the same experience in the past, but today's win made them play nice.
I'd be curious to see an analysis of the middle 8 prime sections on financial support versus simple longevity.
If you have about 125+ points, you are in those courtside sections. (I imagine you might be able to get in there with 90, but I can't find that PDF they had in 2009.)
So how do you get to 125 points? Start with +10 for having a degree, which most have.
If you've "simply" been a ticket holder since 1985, you have 26 seasons .. until 1995, one season was worth 4 points. So that's 10*4 + 15*2 = 70 points. Assuming the ticket holder was smart, they'd donate $100 a year to B&G, which gives them a point/year for another 26 points. That's $2,600 in donations, divided by $250 = 10 more points.
So .. for a person who only gave the minimum $100 a year donation, plus 26 years of buying the tickets (and receiving the entertainment) you'd have 116 points at a bare minimum. Started getting tickets in 1975? Bare minimum is 166.
Where I'm going is .. Just by the math and the point charts, it's only partially true that the people in those 8 sections are those that "provide the majority of financial support." Have no idea of the breakdown, but I'd guess half (?) of them are there because they've been ticket holders for 25+ years.
To be clear .. I am not making the point that they should be moved and supplanted by more enthusiastic fans. Just that not all of them are big rollers. Plenty are just simple, loyal fans who are high on the totem pole.
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Also .. The Syracuse fans were numerous and loud. I'd go north of 200, maybe 500. Either that, or they were particularly loud. Outside of the UW game, I'd guess the most attended by an opposition this year.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 30, 2011, 09:41:03 AM
Also .. The Syracuse fans were numerous and loud. I'd go north of 200, maybe 500. Either that, or they were particularly loud. Outside of the UW game, I'd guess the most attended by an opposition this year.
Cuse fans are probably the most plentiful and loudest around. Cuse basketball travels very, very well.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 30, 2011, 09:46:55 AM
Cuse fans are probably the most plentiful and loudest around. Cuse basketball travels very, very well.
When you are as trashy as some of their fans in attendance yesterday, it isn't hard to pull up the anchors on the mobile home and travel throughout the Big East.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 30, 2011, 09:46:55 AM
Cuse fans are probably the most plentiful and loudest around. Cuse basketball travels very, very well.
And at 33,000 enrollment (MU about 8000 undergrad), I believe it is the largest BE school (or one of the largest). So they produces 4.5x more alumni than schools like MU, ND, DeP, GU, SH, Nova, Prov. and StJ
They better travel well as they have made a tons of alumni.
crowd was awesome yesterday
as an old fart, I probably should let it go-write it off to youth..., but I believe that the 'neebies' wouldn't pay the $225-1,200/seat donation, wouldn't buy tickets for and attend every Rick Majerus game, every Bob Dukiet game, every Mike Dean game, without whining.
Hell, I remember watching Eddie Hickey coach the team when I was a kid. That's how long I've been a fan. I guess that makes me a bad guy.
There are a lot of younger alumni sitting near me, and all it takes is a donation. Every reseating year it gets tougher and tougher to maintain location, as the younger, well-heeled fans jump you with a donation. Worse, the administration takes chunks of the best sections and gives them to anyone willing to make the big, one-time donation for that period. Many of the courtside seat faces change every two years, as do many of the lower section faces because of this.
For what it's worth, my wife worries I'm going to get thrown out every game because I'm a little too vocal..., but I guess that's because I'm a fan.
QuoteFor what it's worth, my wife worries I'm going to get thrown out every game because I'm a little too vocal..., but I guess that's because I'm a fan.
I love it augoman. You're the type of fan that should be getting seated center court and down low. That's what I want to see on TV. :)
Augie, man, old fart to old fart, would have been an awesome day had the Cats taken out tOSU, aina?
Quote from: augoman on January 30, 2011, 02:58:47 PM
There are a lot of younger alumni sitting near me, and all it takes is a donation. Every reseating year it gets tougher and tougher to maintain location, as the younger, well-heeled fans jump you with a donation.
I would wager that 95% of young people sitting in the 10 center sections are all sitting in their parents' seats. I know family after family who have had tickets forever and continue to get them, but typically the younger ones in the clan are using them.
As I did the math for "minimum" donors above, I can go the other direction. Say you are 35 years old and considered "newbies," and have had tickets for 10 years.
You'd have 10+20, plus donating $100 each year (10+4) = 44 points. In order to get to the 125 points you need to sit in those 10 prime sections, you'd need another 81 points. You could donate $8100 in a re-seating year to bump yourself up that time, but those would depreciate to 32 points at the next re-seating, so you'd need to donate ANOTHER $4,900 to get back to 125 .. for another 2 years of prime seating. (And you'd probably need 135 by then, because everyone is climbing the ladder.)
So .. you're talking over $13,000 in donations to stay in the center sections for 4 years.
My point in that math is .. I'm highly doubtful there are many 35-40 year olds who are dropping that kind of generosity. There are some, certainly. If you see younger folks in those prime sections, most of them aren't using their own tickets.