I mean seriously? This is getting ridiculous. The last 3 NCAA tourney games against Wash, Stanford, and Missouri. Hell, even Juan Felix and Alabama can be considered heartbreak city, but I'm not sure MU even lead in that game. I could keep going on of course.
318 in "Luck" this year.
310 last year.
200 in 2009.
According to Pomeroy.
Is this because good or bad, we simply play to the level of our competition?
Quote from: MU B2002 on January 15, 2011, 05:27:56 PM
Is this because good or bad, we simply play to the level of our competition?
Yes. It's sickening to always hear "we're underdogs", "every game will come down to the final one or two possessions", us against the world bs. I wish we'd hear a little Rex Ryan or Raheem Morris confidence for a change so it's not surprising to the team that they can beat anybody and it doesn't have to be decided in the final 20 seconds.
This is an excellent question. Do fans of other College BBall teams feel that their team suffers the most?
I watch a lot of basketball and I don't see other teams routinely lose heartbreakers like us, but I'm not a fan of those teams, so it's hard to say.
I'd rather be a fan of this team than a team like Milwaukee. So yeah while we do suffer our share of heartbreak, we at least make the NCAA regularly and are playing in one of the top conferences in the country.
Quote from: MUDPT on January 15, 2011, 05:24:33 PM
318 in "Luck" this year.
310 last year.
200 in 2009.
According to Pomeroy.
And that's before factoring in todays loss.
If someone can just show me another team that had an 18 point lead with 5 to go and lost, then I might feel alittle better. Those other buzzer beater losses were bad, but not like this one.
Deficit Overcome to Win Game
32—Duke (74) vs. Tulane (72), Dec. 30, 1950 (trailed 22-54 with 2:00 left in the first half)
Second-Half Deficit Overcome to Win Game
31—Duke (74) vs. Tulane (72), Dec. 30, 1950 (trailed 27-58 with 19:00 left in the second half);
Kentucky (99) vs. LSU (95), Feb. 15, 1994 (trailed 37-68 with 15:34 left in the second half)
Halftime Deficit Overcome to Win Game
29—Duke (74) vs. Tulane (72), Dec. 30, 1950 (trailed 27-56 at halftime)
Deficit Overcome Before Scoring to Win Game
New Mexico State rallied from a 28-0 deficit with 12:49 left in the first half to defeat Bradley, 117-109 in regulation on Jan. 27, 1977. It is the NCAA record for largest deficit overcome before scoring.
I thought Tenn blew a 20+ pt lead against OSU 3 years ago in the elite 8...
Yes, found it march 27, 2007
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 15, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
Deficit Overcome to Win Game
32—Duke (74) vs. Tulane (72), Dec. 30, 1950 (trailed 22-54 with 2:00 left in the first half)
Second-Half Deficit Overcome to Win Game
31—Duke (74) vs. Tulane (72), Dec. 30, 1950 (trailed 27-58 with 19:00 left in the second half);
Kentucky (99) vs. LSU (95), Feb. 15, 1994 (trailed 37-68 with 15:34 left in the second half)
Halftime Deficit Overcome to Win Game
29—Duke (74) vs. Tulane (72), Dec. 30, 1950 (trailed 27-56 at halftime)
Deficit Overcome Before Scoring to Win Game
New Mexico State rallied from a 28-0 deficit with 12:49 left in the first half to defeat Bradley, 117-109 in regulation on Jan. 27, 1977. It is the NCAA record for largest deficit overcome before scoring.
Awesome and interesting research. Wish the statistics were more detailed, but I know that is impossible. Halftime deficits are one thing, up 18 with five to go is another. I still don't feel good.
I found the stat you're looking for and made it its own post because it was that significant
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=23671.0
When an opponent is alone, under the basket as time runs out, like today, like Villanova in BE tourney, it is not luck.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 15, 2011, 08:51:57 PMWhen an opponent is alone, under the basket as time runs out, like today, like Villanova in BE tourney, it is not luck.
Like Vandy 2 weeks ago...
Didn't Va. Tech suffer so much heartbreak two or three years ago?
334 in luck now in Pomeroy after the U of L game.
Quote from: MUDPT on January 16, 2011, 08:26:07 AM
334 in luck now in Pomeroy after the U of L game.
This does not bother me. Luck is zero sum. At some point we will be the luckiest team in America to balance this out. Hopefully it is this year and not next year.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 16, 2011, 08:29:34 AM
This does not bother me. Luck is zero sum. At some point we will be the luckiest team in America to balance this out. Hopefully it is this year and not next year.
I don't know.
Isn't it a little strange that MU would be so low in the "luck" ranking for consecutive years?
I sure don't know how they determine the Luck Factor, and probably wouldn't understand iy anyhow. That seems pretty subjective.
I believe that Coaching and talent have more to do with winning than "luck"
The luck thing is a crutch.
Quote from: MUDPT on January 16, 2011, 08:26:07 AM
334 in luck now in Pomeroy after the U of L game.
Is this just D1? Aren't there only like 336 D1 schools?
Also, does this measurement correlate well with choke jobs? In other words, are our incredibly number of choke jobs over the course of the program deemed "unlucky"?