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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 79Warrior on January 09, 2011, 07:42:31 PM

Title: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: 79Warrior on January 09, 2011, 07:42:31 PM

That caught my eye in todd's article today. I am a little suprised our all time record against ranked teams is so poor.
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: Jay Bee on January 09, 2011, 08:17:08 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 09, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
That caught my eye in todd's article today. I am a little suprised our all time record against ranked teams is so poor.

So poor?  Give some comparisons.
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 09, 2011, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 09, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
That caught my eye in todd's article today. I am a little suprised our all time record against ranked teams is so poor.

I think a lot of it depends on where the games are played and what our status was.  In other words, there were times when we were awful but playing Top 25 teams with no chance to win at all.

I'd also be curious how other teams stack up.

Here's the Wisconsin record, as an example   http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wis/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2010-11_MBB_Record_Book.pdf

I didn't add it up, but it's on page 108 and 109

Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 09, 2011, 09:07:43 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 09, 2011, 09:03:37 PM
I think a lot of it depends on where the games are played and what our status was.  In other words, there were times when we were awful but playing Top 25 teams with no chance to win at all.

I'd like to see our record when we are ranked (probably .500 or a bit better).  Also, I wonder how many of these games occurred when we were ranked.  I would guess less than half.
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: MarquetteDano on January 10, 2011, 12:19:01 AM
I guess another way to look at it is that when we played a ranked team we win 40% of the time.  If you think on average you are probably playing the 12th best team in the country, to beat that team 40% of the time is pretty darn good.  I would guess our winning percentage for teams that have played at least 100 games or so would be right up there (maybe 30th nationally or something like that).
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: APieperFan3 on January 10, 2011, 08:06:28 AM
That's a good way to look at it, Dano.

I would be curious to see what our record against ranked opponents is when MU is ranked...as Chicos said, there were times/years where we didn't really stand a chance against ranked opponents.
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: mugrad99 on January 10, 2011, 08:27:23 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 09, 2011, 09:03:37 PM
I think a lot of it depends on where the games are played and what our status was.  In other words, there were times when we were awful but playing Top 25 teams with no chance to win at all.

I'd also be curious how other teams stack up.

Here's the Wisconsin record, as an example   http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wis/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2010-11_MBB_Record_Book.pdf

I didn't add it up, but it's on page 108 and 109



Wisconsin 101-258
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: GGGG on January 10, 2011, 08:30:28 AM
I'm frankly surprised that Wisconsin's is that good, considering that between 1947 and 1994 they didn't make the NCAA tournament, and only made the NIT a couple of times during that stretch.
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: Coleman on January 10, 2011, 08:35:11 AM
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 09, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
That caught my eye in todd's article today. I am a little suprised our all time record against ranked teams is so poor.

This is just a guess but I'd bet that record is probably in the top 25 for (for sure top 50) Division I teams all time against ranked opponents. There are probably very very few teams that have winning records vs. ranked opponents (UNC, UCLA, Duke, Kansas, who else?). As Dano said, winning 40% of games against ranked opponents is anything but poor.
Title: I must not feel like working
Post by: mugrad99 on January 10, 2011, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 10, 2011, 08:30:28 AM
I'm frankly surprised that Wisconsin's is that good, considering that between 1947 and 1994 they didn't make the NCAA tournament, and only made the NIT a couple of times during that stretch.
45-189 through 1994
56-69 since
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 10, 2011, 09:12:19 AM
Yeah, but how many un-ranked teams have we lost to?  :P
Title: Re: MU is 99-151 versus nationally ranked teams all-time
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 10, 2011, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: indeelaw90 on January 10, 2011, 08:27:23 AM
Wisconsin 101-258

Thanks for doing the work on this
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