Otule and Gardner...21 combined minutes...*ZERO* rebounds.
And people wonder why we go small in some of these games.
Another amazing stat is MU being credited for only 1 steal. I re-watched the game and had us for 4.
good point
Also, we had a team A/T ratio of 8:1.
I don't know if we could have been better offensively than we were today.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 08, 2011, 05:28:19 PM
Otule and Gardner...21 combined minutes...*ZERO* rebounds.
And people wonder why we go small in some of these games.
The Sultan of South Wayne points out the woeful rebounding by our two big men.
Awful rebounding should not be the reason Marquette has to "go small" against bigger, tougher competition.
Until we have strong, skilled big men, we will be forever the underdog against teams such as Pittsburgh and its strong, skilled big men.
Pitt was making every shot. MU went small to get turnovers to get back into the game.
Quote from: MU Avenue on January 08, 2011, 05:34:37 PM
The Sultan of South Wayne points out the woeful rebounding by our two big men.
That should not be the reason Marquette has to "go small" against bigger, tougher competition.
Well, since neither gives you much offensively, "going small" means that you have to get your offense somewhere.
Quote from: MU Avenue on January 08, 2011, 05:34:37 PM
Until we have strong, skilled big men, we will be forever the underdog against teams such as Pittsburgh and its strong, skilled big men.
<sigh> Like that's gonna happen.
We have been asking the question for years: Why can't we land a strong skilled big man? It looks like we still haven't. We should remember that Otule is a Soph and Ox a frosh, so here is hoping they both develop. I still think we need to play both to give them the developmental experience.
Playing Crowder and Fulce in the post is not the answer. Not their natural positions.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 08, 2011, 05:42:32 PM
We have been asking the question for years: Why can't we land a strong skilled big man? It looks like we still haven't. We should remember that Otule is a Soph and Ox a frosh, so here is hoping they both develop. I still think we need to play both to give them the developmental experience.
I'm sorry but you don't give them developmental experience in BE games.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 08, 2011, 05:28:19 PM
Otule and Gardner...21 combined minutes...*ZERO* rebounds.
And people wonder why we go small in some of these games.
I have said this many times, Chris is not a BE center. He just is not. Great kid, plays his heart out. The skill set just is just not there.
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I'm sorry but you don't give them developmental experience in BE games.
So when do you give it to them? In practice, and then expect them to play at the 4-year senior experience level?
Quote from: 96warrior on January 08, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
So when do you give it to them? In practice, and then expect them to play at the 4-year senior experience level?
Practice...pre-BE games...summer work. If they aren't performing on the BE stage, pull 'em.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 08, 2011, 06:39:36 PM
Practice...pre-BE games...summer work. If they aren't performing on the BE stage, pull 'em.
Fine, pull them if they don't get it done in a game, but give them a chance in real games. Practice, pre-BE games and summer work are not the same as a BEast game. Crowder said something about how much more physical than the pre-conference games, and that he liked it. Some guys will thrive on that change of pace right away, others won't. But put them in a BE game to find out. And them pull them if they can't keep up.
And to say I was told I was wrong when I said we need to sit them on the bench. Ride with the good players.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 08, 2011, 05:47:46 PM
I'm sorry but you don't give them developmental experience in BE games.
Sorry Sultan, I do not agree. Where else are you going to get game experience against BEast talent, but in games?
These are our two Centers, give them game minutes and let them learn. We probably lose just as much playing Crowder and Fulce in the post out of position. If we are going to be clobbered inside, then let it happen with Otule/Gardner, rather than with Crowder/Fulce. Look at how thin Fulce is--he will be eaten alive by BEast power players. No knock on him, just his size.
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 08, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
I have said this many times, Chris is not a BE center. He just is not. Great kid, plays his heart out. The skill set just is just not there.
Chris has the skills. But, having one eye certainly affects his efectiveness in a fast-paced game. Its obvious that he struggles to locate the ball as that split second makes a huge difference. As such, he is a role player.