8 of 11 at this point..ridiculous...won't continue in the 2nd half. Do need to defend better on the 3 as they have been getting good looks.
Need Crowder badly..team hurts when he is off the floor as evidenced by this run..
why the f are our guards collapsing to the under the basket?
I don't understand much of what Buzz wants to do defensively.
Our inability or unwillingness to close out on the 3 point shot this year is driving me nuts. Our team D this year is at best mediocre and at worst atrocious.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 08, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
I don't understand much of what Buzz wants to do defensively.
I can't imagine he wants the 3 left that wide open....the boys are having a major case of brain fart today. Good God....worst half of defense I have seen from MU in a long long long time.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 08, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
I don't understand much of what Buzz wants to do defensively.
It appears he just hopes for the best.
Our offense is performing well. 0 turnovers is an excellent stat, but that outside shooting defense needs to improve to win this game.
Quote from: MUSF on January 08, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
Our inability or unwillingness to close out on the 3 point shot this year is driving me nuts. Our team D this year is at best mediocre and at worst atrocious.
How bad, defensively, must the guys on the bench be at this point? Buzz says they don't play because they can not play defense. I don't want to open my eyes if the team defense can actually be worse than it was in the first half.
Game was tied when Crowder picked up his 2nd..25-25...have to have him on the floor.
As has been said by commentators..when MU misses shots..our defensive energy seems to slip..and it is always considered to be easier to play D following makes..easier to set up the D.
Pitt right now reminds me of us last year...they have us "spinning" as all the dribble drive and kick outs and ball movement..is creating really good looks.
That said, even with the good looks..they will not shoot 66% from the 3 in the 2nd half.
Quote from: murobrob on January 08, 2011, 01:55:02 PM
I can't imagine he wants the 3 left that wide open....the boys are having a major case of brain fart today. Good God....worst half of defense I have seen from MU in a long long long time.
Our double-teaming guys has not been working - leaves a 3 open wide. But we had two guys on Wannabe and he sank it and drew a foul. Out perimeter defense has been suspect all year. I have no idea how we solve this. Zone didn;t stop it much either.
Quote from: Stronghold on January 08, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
Our offense is performing well. 0 turnovers is an excellent stat, but that outside shooting defense needs to improve to win this game.
It seems almost unbelievable that we have 0 turnovers and are down by 11....that deficit is clearly on the d.
Quote from: MUSF on January 08, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
Our inability or unwillingness to close out on the 3 point shot this year is driving me nuts. Our team D this year is at best mediocre and at worst atrocious.
Agree that the D has not been good most of this season...however, it is the fact that we are closing out on the 3's aggressively that they are getting open looks from the 3. Pitt is playing smart ball..as we rush to close out, they pass the ball, that guy penetrates, defense collapses, and then he kicks ball to help defender's man..who launches a wide open 3.
Basically they have us on "skates," dut to their excellent ball movement, rotation, and penetration.
Quote from: Stronghold on January 08, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
Our offense is performing well. 0 turnovers is an excellent stat, but that outside shooting defense needs to improve to win this game.
Yeah--0 turnovers and we are still getting our ass handed to us. So much for going small. The only guy playing worth his salt is Buycks.
Why the hell does Blue take a three from the corner when he had DJO open for three on the wing? Blue will make that shot about 10% of the time. If he thinks he can go pro next year, he better see a shrink.
Quote from: Ners on January 08, 2011, 02:03:44 PM
Agree that the D has not been good most of this season...however, it is the fact that we are closing out on the 3's aggressively that they are getting open looks from the 3. Pitt is playing smart ball..as we rush to close out, they pass the ball, that guy penetrates, defense collapses, and then he kicks ball to help defender's man..who launches a wide open 3.
Basically they have us on "skates," dut to their excellent ball movement, rotation, and penetration.
Basically, we are getting out coached.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 08, 2011, 02:07:49 PM
Basically, we are getting out coached.
Of course..and of course you've argued for Cadougan over Buycks previously..and we saw your argument for Gardner over Otule as well..Gardner has potential but is not quite ready yet..
Not much we can do when they hit a totally statistical outlier amount of 3s. If we step out on the 3s they will work us down low.
Ners your right they wont shoot 66% they will shoot 100% from 3 in the 2nd half
Brown for Pitt is now 8-9 on 3's the last two games combined. He's in a zone.
Jimmy just completely lapsed on that in bounds play..where Brown just drilled the 3...terrible. No reason for that on an out of bounds play.
Not sure the Zone will be too effective when their this hot- Remind again of the law of averages?
Quote from: willie warrior on January 08, 2011, 02:07:49 PM
Basically, we are getting out coached.
Willy, judging from the posts you've thrown up on this board, you wouldn't have the slightest clue if Buzz was being out coached.
Pitt is just a lot better than us. We aren't being outcoached...we're being outplayed by a better team.
Honestly they aren't much better. They have hit more than 60% of their 3s.
I've never seen a coach keep taking timeouts after his team makes 3's...2nd or 3rd time Dixon has done this..trying to mind fu$k the WArriors? Weird
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 08, 2011, 02:27:21 PM
Honestly they aren't much better. They have hit more than 60% of their 3s.
Well. they are a much better team...TODAY...so far.
One of those games.
They are at home and I am shocked that we are within 12 right now at under 12 T.O.
It's a top 5 team on the road and they are hitting over 60% of their threes. What did you all expect?
I am truly curious...what did you HONESTLY expect?
My lord, I feel sorry for your sons and daughters because I clearly see you expect perfection everyday in everyway.
Well said, pillar.
Quote from: pillardean on January 08, 2011, 02:35:25 PM
One of those games.
They are at home and I am shocked that we are within 12 right now at under 12 T.O.
It's a top 5 team on the road and they are hitting over 60% of their threes. What did you all expect?
I am truly curious...what did you HONESTLY expect?
My lord, I feel sorry for your sons and daughters because I clearly see you expect perfection everyday in everyway.
I expected to win based on your prediction. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=23346.msg259043#msg259043
MU needs to drive the hoop and stop chucking 3's.
This is pretty much reminiscient of the Duke game...just teasing us enough to think we have a chance, but the odds are stacked...that said..a pretty good effort thus far being on the road at a place where Pitt has won I think 48 of their last 50...and it takes Pitt shooting 60% from three to do so..
Quote from: Norm on January 08, 2011, 02:55:01 PM
MU needs to drive the hoop and stop chucking 3's.
I agree- back to back contested 3's by Crowder and Buycks were dissappointing- let's keep the comeback going!
we have had plenty of chances to get back into the game. Just do stupid things.
should be hacking McGhee to send him to line and make dixon take him off the floor
Quote from: pillardean on January 08, 2011, 02:35:25 PM
One of those games.
They are at home and I am shocked that we are within 12 right now at under 12 T.O.
It's a top 5 team on the road and they are hitting over 60% of their threes. What did you all expect?
I am truly curious...what did you HONESTLY expect?
My lord, I feel sorry for your sons and daughters because I clearly see you expect perfection everyday in everyway.
What to expect?
How about a coach who can teach even remotely adequate defense?
But I suppose that's too much to ask. As long as Buzz can give those quips in that southern drawl, actual coaching doesn't matter.
Quote from: nomorebuycks on January 08, 2011, 03:05:08 PM
What to expect?
How about a coach who can teach even remotely adequate defense?
But I suppose that's too much to ask. As long as Buzz can give those quips in that southern drawl, actual coaching doesn't matter.
Welcome back. Where you been the last couple of games dips**t?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 08, 2011, 03:06:46 PM
Welcome back. Where you been the last couple of games dips**t?
Hope you're enjoying the fruits of Buzz's coaching brilliance.
And nice language.
He has been conveniently absent since we have been winning.
Stupid..had MCGhee on the floor after Bycks makes 2 FT's and we let them take 18 seconds off the clock and then fould a guard who can shoot FTs
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 08, 2011, 03:09:17 PM
He has been conveniently absent since we have been winning.
I've posted on Jan 1, 4 and 5.
But nice try.
Buzz cannot teach defense. He did a pathetic job at NO and is doing a pathetic job at MU. No team is worse at defensive rotations.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 08, 2011, 02:46:12 PM
I expected to win based on your prediction. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=23346.msg259043#msg259043
Hahahaha...
Come now, that's not fair :) I don't think I will have MU lose in the prediction contest this year no matter how much I believe they will lose. I will just predict what that stats would need to be for MU to win, IMHO that is.
Quote from: nomorebuycks on January 08, 2011, 03:15:25 PM
I've posted on Jan 1, 4 and 5.
But nice try.
Buzz cannot teach defense. He did a pathetic job at NO and is doing a pathetic job at MU. No team is worse at defensive rotations.
Dwight Buycks line today:
19 points on 6-11 from the field
3/5 from 3
4 reb (3 offensive)
3 assists.
you're right though, god he is horrible. ::)
Overall, respectable game by MU, we really lost it after Crowder came out with 7:54 in the 1st half with his 2 fouls and never returned. It was 26-24 Pitt at that point, and we ended the half down 11, but the gap was 16 seconds before.
Yes we gave up too many 3s, and rebounding started strong and faded, but you can't let yourself get in a hole against a good team like Pitt.
Still things to work on, but not a bad game by any means. Just disappointing.
Quote from: Ners on January 08, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
Nobody cares.
Hello goofy fanboy.
How'd you like the defense today?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 08, 2011, 03:24:43 PM
Overall, respectable game by MU, we really lost it after Crowder came out in with 7:54 1st half with his 2 fouls and never returned. It was 26-24 Pitt at that point, and we ended the half down 11, but the gap was 16 seconds before.
Yes we gave up too many 3s, and rebounding started strong and faded, but you can't let yourself get in a hole against a good team like Pitt.
Still things to work on, but not a bad game by any means. Just disappointing.
+1 - I'd say a perfect summary.
Quote from: nomorebuycks on January 08, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
Hello goofy fanboy.
How'd you like the defense today?
Though it was bad and sucked - I'd say it didn't suck as bad as what your life must be like.
Quote from: pillardean on January 08, 2011, 03:17:48 PM
Hahahaha...
Come now, that's not fair :) I don't think I will have MU lose in the prediction contest this year no matter how much I believe they will lose. I will just predict what that stats would need to be for MU to win, IMHO that is.
OK. ;) Fair enough.
Quote from: Ners on January 08, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
Nobody cares.
Apparently a lot of people do because they're drilling the guy for not being around lately when apparently he has been. Just sayin
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 08, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
Apparently a lot of people do because they're drilling the guy for not being around lately when apparently he has been. Just sayin
Now me and MU ATL Warrior qualify as 'a lot'?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 08, 2011, 03:21:35 PM
Dwight Buycks line today:
19 points on 6-11 from the field
3/5 from 3
4 reb (3 offensive)
3 assists.
you're right though, god he is horrible. ::)
Yes. No more Buycks will definitely solve our issues.
Quote from: pillardean on January 08, 2011, 02:35:25 PM
One of those games.
They are at home and I am shocked that we are within 12 right now at under 12 T.O.
It's a top 5 team on the road and they are hitting over 60% of their threes. What did you all expect?
I am truly curious...what did you HONESTLY expect?
My lord, I feel sorry for your sons and daughters because I clearly see you expect perfection everyday in everyway.
I don't expect perfection... I expect effort.
Defense is a lot about effort and trusting your teammates. I expect the team to go hard on the defensive end and not have stupid mental breakdowns. We have not played very good team defense this year and some individuals on the team seem to be disinterested at times on the defensive end.
I don't mind losing to better teams but the this team's tendency to spend about 3-5 minutes of each half playing lazy defense and settling for the jump shot drives me nuts.