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Title: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: MtAiryGoldenEagle on January 06, 2011, 12:10:42 PM
"Juan Anderson set the tempo with five 3-pointers as his Trojans cruise to an easy victory against league foe Tennyson (Summers, Travis)."

http://castrovalley.patch.com/articles/boys-basketball-castro-valley-dominates-tennyson-82-38
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Wade for President on January 06, 2011, 12:23:05 PM
I'm counting down the days until Juan arrives in Milwaukee.  It will be interesting to see what position (other than a "switchable") he'll play in Buzz's system.

Could he be a Scottie Pippenesque point forward?  Run an offense like a young Penny Hardaway?

In my 16 years as an MU fan, I can't recall having a 6'6-7" forward that can see the floor like a guard.

Giddy up.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 06, 2011, 12:58:19 PM
Congratulations Juan on another good game and win.  We can't wait to watch you play at Marquette.  Good to hear that you are growing too!  Hope you come in at 6'8 or 6'9 next year!
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: JWags85 on January 06, 2011, 01:32:07 PM
Quote from: Wade for President on January 06, 2011, 12:23:05 PM
I'm counting down the days until Juan arrives in Milwaukee.  It will be interesting to see what position (other than a "switchable") he'll play in Buzz's system.

Could he be a Scottie Pippenesque point forward?  Run an offense like a young Penny Hardaway?

In my 16 years as an MU fan, I can't recall having a 6'6-7" forward that can see the floor like a guard.

Giddy up.

What about Demarr Johnson?  I remember hating him at UC but wishing MU had a player like him.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Blackhat on January 06, 2011, 01:54:01 PM
 Jamil Wilson.


I'm hoping Wilson is a good rebounder/defender.  Cause he'll probably guard numerous positions.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: lab_warrior on January 06, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Yeah, our F roto next year is most likely  Blue-JJones-Jamil-Juan...Looking FORWARD TO THAT.
(would think that EWill is in the bigs roto w/Otule & Gardner). 
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: brewcity77 on January 06, 2011, 02:09:02 PM
Maybe it's just me, but Juan Anderson is sounding better and better every time I hear about him. First, it's that he's a possible diamond in the rough because he's playing on the West Coast. Then he's another slashing switchable type guard-forward, which we have had success with. Next we hear he's dropping threes, I didn't remember that as part of the original scouting report. Next a growth spurt that could shoot him up to 6'8" or 6'9", and now he's drilling more threes at an unstoppable rate.

This kid is either playing way over his head, or is truly a dream-come-true type of player for Marquette. I'm hoping for the latter.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 06, 2011, 02:10:25 PM
Last 6'6"-6'7" I can think of that resemled a mini-Lamar Odom was Odartey Blankson. Dude could play 2-4 and the 1 and 5 if needed.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: GGGG on January 06, 2011, 02:14:26 PM
We are falling into the same trap that we fall into around here with incoming freshmen.  I suggest that Juan is going to have many of the same struggles that Jamail and EWill have had to deal with when he gets here.  For instance, can he defend at this level?  Can he shoot with a hand in his face?

Don't get me wrong, he will be a solid player by the time he leaves here, but I'm not expecting much to start.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 06, 2011, 02:21:27 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 06, 2011, 02:10:25 PM
Last 6'6"-6'7" I can think of that resemled a mini-Lamar Odom was Odartey Blankson. Dude could play 2-4 and the 1 and 5 if needed.

In the video I saw (a highlight reel I'm sure) I was most impressed with his handle and his court vision/passing. Hope he has the toughness since he appears to have all the skills.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: NCMUFan on January 06, 2011, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on January 06, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Yeah, our F roto next year is most likely  Blue-JJones-Jamil-Juan...Looking FORWARD TO THAT.
(would think that EWill is in the bigs roto w/Otule & Gardner). 
I'd pull Vander out and put Jae in for the forward rotation.  I'd include E Williams in if his defense and rebounding is where Buzz wants it.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: LAMUfan on January 06, 2011, 02:35:36 PM
Check the picture and the uniforms... already looks like he's ready for MU.  Maybe he just really likes the checker style ;)
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Wade for President on January 06, 2011, 02:43:09 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on January 06, 2011, 01:32:07 PM
What about Demarr Johnson?  I remember hating him at UC but wishing MU had a player like him.

Awww yes.  Demarr Johnson.  Dude never lived up to his potential in my opinion.  It's amazing the talent Huggy Bear had, that never reached their potential (Dontonio Wingfield, Damon Flint, Melvin Bullet, Ruben Patterson, etc).

Despite Cincy/Huggins incredible teams, the only players that went on to have good pro careers are Kenyon Martin and Nick Van Exel (Danny Fortson & Corie Blount did have a few decent seasons).
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 06, 2011, 02:44:42 PM
Quote from: Wade for President on January 06, 2011, 02:43:09 PM
Awww yes.  Demarr Johnson.  Dude never lived up to his potential in my opinion.  It's amazing the talent Huggy Bear had, that never reached their potential (Dontonio Wingfield, Damon Flint, Melvin Bullet, Ruben Patterson, etc).

Despite Cincy/Huggins incredible teams, the only players that went on to have good pro careers are Kenyon Martin and Nick Van Exel (Danny  & Corie Blount did have a few decent seasons).


Didn't Johnson almost die in an accident his first or second year in the Association?

As for Juan Valdez, I agree that the hype machine needs to be slow a bit.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: nyg on January 06, 2011, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: Wade for President on January 06, 2011, 02:43:09 PM
Awww yes.  Demarr Johnson.  Dude never lived up to his potential in my opinion.  It's amazing the talent Huggy Bear had, that never reached their potential (Dontonio Wingfield, Damon Flint, Melvin Bullet, Ruben Patterson, etc).

Despite Cincy/Huggins incredible teams, the only players that went on to have good pro careers are Kenyon Martin and Nick Van Exel (Danny  & Corie Blount did have a few decent seasons).


Demarr Johnson broke his neck, can't recall how, but that stymied his career.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: lab_warrior on January 06, 2011, 03:05:00 PM
I think Ruben Patterson had a decent stint (not quite failure, not quite success) in the association with Seattle, and DeMarr Johnson was with the Nuggets for maybe like 2 years? 
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: BCHoopster on January 06, 2011, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: Wade for President on January 06, 2011, 12:23:05 PM
I'm counting down the days until Juan arrives in Milwaukee.  It will be interesting to see what position (other than a "switchable") he'll play in Buzz's system.

Could he be a Scottie Pippenesque point forward?  Run an offense like a young Penny Hardaway?

In my 16 years as an MU fan, I can't recall having a 6'6-7" forward that can see the floor like a guard.

Giddy up.

Are you serious?  If so, that kid must be a Top 5 high school player, and one and done like
Vander???
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: brewcity77 on January 06, 2011, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 02:14:26 PMWe are falling into the same trap that we fall into around here with incoming freshmen.  I suggest that Juan is going to have many of the same struggles that Jamail and EWill have had to deal with when he gets here.  For instance, can he defend at this level?  Can he shoot with a hand in his face?

Don't get me wrong, he will be a solid player by the time he leaves here, but I'm not expecting much to start.

Probably the safest route to take. Though personally, I've been pleasantly surprised by the contributions of both Blue and Gardner this year as freshmen. Granted, Blue's offense needs work, as does Gardner's defense, but both are useful pieces, and I never would have expected that between them they'd be giving us 36 mpg. Honestly, I'd have been pleased to be getting 15-18 out of the two of them.

The odds are Anderson will need to improve his defense, and will probably log around 10-12 mpg in non-con play, then become an even less frequent contributor once the BEast schedule rolls around. But if he really shows up as a 6'9" slasher with a bit of a handle that can drain the three, he might be able to contribute a bit more as a freshman than I'm expecting.

And regarding DerMarr Johnson, he's now playing professionally in Lebanon. After breaking his neck in an accident, he worked his way back and earned a bit of time with the the Knicks, Nuggets, and Spurs. He then played a year in China (at the same team where Chris "Birdman" Andersen once played) before signing to play in Lebanon. My guess is despite all his promise, his NBA career is now likely over.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Hards Alumni on January 06, 2011, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 02:14:26 PM
We are falling into the same trap that we fall into around here with incoming freshmen.  I suggest that Juan is going to have many of the same struggles that Jamail and EWill have had to deal with when he gets here.  For instance, can he defend at this level?  Can he shoot with a hand in his face?

Don't get me wrong, he will be a solid player by the time he leaves here, but I'm not expecting much to start.

exactamundo, buddy.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: BCHoopster on January 06, 2011, 03:17:33 PM
It will all depend on what type of game Jamil Wilson brings to the table.  In the Pro-Am he reminded
me of a taller and bigger Jimmy Butler.  Needed to work on strength which I assume Todd Smith is doing,
and work on his three point shot.  Juan might be the back-up then, or Vander might still back-up both
of them.  I do not want to see Vander play  small forward next year, rather have him play the point
and back-up DJO.  Need to play bigger and with Jae maybe guarding the 3 as I am sure Jamil is a few inches
taller than Jae, at least it looks like that on the bench.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: AZWarrior on January 06, 2011, 03:27:59 PM
Juan Anderson is not getting enough playing time.  Players expect to play, and  Buzz is taking a chance on Juan transferring to a school who will promise him more playing time.

Ahem.....just practicing for next year when Juan doesn't get enough playing time for my satisfaction.    ;D
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: BCHoopster on January 06, 2011, 04:00:45 PM
Right on, AZ.  Expectations on new recruits always is over the top.  I think Butch Lee, like
a Top 5 player that year, averaged like 8 points as a freshman!  If Juan averaged 6 it would
be good.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: muarmy81 on January 06, 2011, 04:19:48 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 06, 2011, 02:10:25 PM
Last 6'6"-6'7" I can think of that resemled a mini-Lamar Odom was Odartey Blankson. Dude could play 2-4 and the 1 and 5 if needed.

I do recall Marcus jackson bringing the ball up court...that was out of necessity though.  *shudder*

Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: 94Warrior on January 06, 2011, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on January 06, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Yeah, our F roto next year is most likely  Blue-JJones-Jamil-Juan...Looking FORWARD TO THAT.
(would think that EWill is in the bigs roto w/Otule & Gardner). 

You forgot Crowder!!!!!  Oh baby!   8-)
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Aughnanure on January 06, 2011, 05:33:39 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 02:14:26 PM
We are falling into the same trap that we fall into around here with incoming freshmen.  I suggest that Juan is going to have many of the same struggles that Jamail and EWill have had to deal with when he gets here.  For instance, can he defend at this level?  Can he shoot with a hand in his face?

Don't get me wrong, he will be a solid player by the time he leaves here, but I'm not expecting much to start.

This is very very true, and I havent helped when it comes to hyping Juan too much. However, though I am VERY high on Juan personally, I will not freak out when he isnt starting or playing 15+ minutes a game and/or making silly frustrating mistakes....I don't do it to our freshmen now and won't in the future. Im only know starting to worry about EWill.

I do think he has the chance to make a Dominic James-type Freshman impact though (again, a chance...the competition level is probably way too high to allow that much playing time as the 3 Amigos had), along with having the best legitimate potential of any of our players and recruits to be that special impact player MU has not had in a long while.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 06, 2011, 05:42:53 PM
I agree that the hype machine always gets out of control with incoming guys.  Ewill is McGrady-esque???  However,  the guys that become stars usually have a high impact right away.  Think about all of MU's best players over the years and a lot of them made major contributions right away.  Hopefully,  Juan is one of those guys.  
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: willie warrior on January 07, 2011, 09:13:42 AM
Anybody have an insight on what his overall averages are this year--PPG, rebounds, FG%, etc.?
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: GGGG on January 07, 2011, 09:17:28 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 07, 2011, 09:13:42 AM
Anybody have an insight on what his overall averages are this year--PPG, rebounds, FG%, etc.?

http://tinyurl.com/2g5lnuu

Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on January 07, 2011, 09:29:51 AM
I'll help you out.

http://marquette.scout.com/3/2010-11RecruitStats.html
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: willie warrior on January 07, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 07, 2011, 09:29:51 AM
I'll help you out.

http://marquette.scout.com/3/2010-11RecruitStats.html
Thanks, Lighthouse.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: foreverwarriors on January 07, 2011, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 07, 2011, 09:29:51 AM
I'll help you out.

http://marquette.scout.com/3/2010-11RecruitStats.html

reading those FT stats, looks like he'll fit right in on the team next year...sigh
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: willie warrior on January 07, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: foreverwarriors on January 07, 2011, 09:58:58 AM
reading those FT stats, looks like he'll fit right in on the team next year...sigh
Yeah, you are right--I didn't notice that. The word is that he is supposed to be a good perimeter shooter--usually those types are also good FT shooters. Wonder what is up with that.
Title: Re: Juan Anderson: star of the game
Post by: Wade for President on January 07, 2011, 03:05:19 PM
Quote from: muarmy81 on January 06, 2011, 04:19:48 PM
I do recall Marcus jackson bringing the ball up court...that was out of necessity though.  *shudder*



Hilarious...and so true.  That was at times as awkward as seeing Otule step out to guard a defender 30 feet from the hoop off a screen (he did it again in the Rutgers game).
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