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Title: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: MU B2002 on January 05, 2011, 02:45:42 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4673068/mavs-waive-steve-novak


Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: BrewCity83 on January 05, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
Bummer.

However, if you project his stats out to 48 minutes per game, he's averaging 27 points and 13 rebounds per 48 minutes...
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: MarquetteDano on January 05, 2011, 03:13:27 PM
Basketball-Reference.com estimates he earned $2.94 million (not including this year) since joining the NBA.  Can't feel too sorry for him.  I wonder if he is willing to try Europe for a while?  They love shooters.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: icheights on January 05, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
screw europe i hope the bulls sign him...he would look real good draining wide open jumpers via derrick rose dimes....
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: brewcity77 on January 05, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: icheights on January 05, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
screw europe i hope the bulls sign him...he would look real good draining wide open jumpers via derrick rose dimes....

Bulls just cut John Lucas III, so they have a slot. That team could still use a good shooter. I think as a reserve he'd be a very good fit in Chicago.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: hdog1017 on January 05, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
It's too bad he can't do anything else on the NBA level but shoot 3 pointers.   
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: HouWarrior on January 05, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
With Caron Butler out for the season, and Dirk now out with sprained knee, you'd think keeping him as insurance made sense.
Wednesday was last cut day before his contract would be gtyed for the season. Brian Cardinal was kept, and his contract is now gtyed for the season.

Mavs site speculates he may be brought back on some 10 day contracts:
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4673086/brian-cardinal-sticks-could-steve-novak-return
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on January 05, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: hdog1017 on January 05, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
It's too bad he can't do anything else on the NBA level but shoot 3 pointers.   
If Craig Hodges could play in the NBA for 10 yrs I'm pretty sure there's room for Novak somewhere...it's all about the right role and fit.  Hope he hooks on somewhere.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: StillWarriors on January 05, 2011, 04:57:58 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 05, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
Bulls just cut John Lucas III, so they have a slot. That team could still use a good shooter. I think as a reserve he'd be a very good fit in Chicago.

I would think so too, but Scalabrine is somewhat similar, and has the added benefit of knowing Thibodeau's system from Boston. Not going to happen with the Bulls from what I understand.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: mikem91288 on January 05, 2011, 05:10:53 PM
I wish Steve the best. Too bad he can't come back to MU. We could use a shooter.
Title: Steve Novak Waived by Mavericks
Post by: Avenue Commons on January 06, 2011, 07:48:07 PM
Am I really the first person to post on this? I looked and didn't see another thread. Maybe I'm just tired. Long day.

Anyways, his contract was guaranteed on Monday, so they cut him now. I've always thought there was a spot in the league for a 6'10" sharpshooter. If it is the end of the road, he had a nice run for a 2nd rounder and made $3 Million. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/novakst01.html (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/novakst01.html)
Title: Re: Steve Novak Waived by Mavericks
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 06, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
It was posted yesterday
Title: Re: Steve Novak Waived by Mavericks
Post by: Avenue Commons on January 06, 2011, 07:52:26 PM
I figured I just missed something. Happy New Years, Chicos.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: mviale on January 06, 2011, 09:53:37 PM
Novak's game doesnt work in the NBA.  He will be fine in Europe.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: Avenue Commons on January 06, 2011, 10:09:48 PM
Quote from: hdog1017 on January 05, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
It's too bad he can't do anything else on the NBA level but shoot 3 pointers.   

He's 6'10". You can't teach height. I've long argued that he is a fairly unique player with his combination of size and shooting range. He just needs to find the right team.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 06, 2011, 11:48:50 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  :'( (vak).

Maybe Dwyane and Co. will help pay some of the luxury tax and sign this stroker from the 3.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: GGGG on January 07, 2011, 07:57:28 AM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on January 06, 2011, 10:09:48 PM
He's 6'10". You can't teach height. I've long argued that he is a fairly unique player with his combination of size and shooting range. He just needs to find the right team.


You can't teach it, but if you don't really use it, it's not really useful.  A 6'10" who just hangs out at the 3 point line may as well be 6'6".
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: icheights on January 07, 2011, 11:39:12 AM
6-6" guys can't shoot over defenders running at them that 6-10" players can...you ever watch a basketball game before?
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on January 07, 2011, 11:51:54 AM
The Bucks definitely need somebody that can hit the 3 consistently, GO 4 it BUCKS!!!!!
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on January 07, 2011, 11:52:33 AM
Plus he would be back in his hometown
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: pbiflyer on January 07, 2011, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 06, 2011, 11:48:50 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  :'( (vak).

Maybe Dwyane and Co. will help pay some of the luxury tax and sign this stroker from the 3.
Actually, they have a $1.6m injury exception, granted when Udonis went down.......
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: StillAWarrior on January 07, 2011, 12:13:52 PM
Quote from: icheights on January 07, 2011, 11:39:12 AM
6-6" guys can't shoot over defenders running at them that 6-10" players can...you ever watch a basketball game before?

You make a point (although you probably could have made the same point without being such a DB), but there's more to basketball than being tall enough to get a shot off over a defender.  Unfortunately, as much as I like Novak, he falls pretty short in those other areas.

So, you're correct that Steve can use his height to get his shot off, but he's not using his height in the ways that you typically see 6'10" guys do (especially on defense).  The ability to get a shot off slightly easier than a 6'6" guy isn't really that much of a benefit if you're not using your height in other ways too.  In other words, Sultan was pretty much right.  Being a great shooter at Steve's height got him a few years in the league, but it's not enough to keep him there.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: GGGG on January 07, 2011, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 07, 2011, 12:13:52 PM
You make a point (although you probably could have made the same point without being such a DB), but there's more to basketball than being tall enough to get a shot off over a defender.  Unfortunately, as much as I like Novak, he falls pretty short in those other areas.

So, you're correct that Steve can use his height to get his shot off, but he's not using his height in the ways that you typically see 6'10" guys do (especially on defense).  The ability to get a shot off slightly easier than a 6'6" guy isn't really that much of a benefit if you're not using your height in other ways too.  In other words, Sultan was pretty much right.  Being a great shooter at Steve's height got him a few years in the league, but it's not enough to keep him there.

Thank you.  The marginal benefit that his height brings on the perimeter is negated by the fact that he doesn't use it in other ways.

And let me also point out that there are 30 NBA GMs that basically agree with me...and they know a hell of a lot more about basketball than I, or anyone else on this board does.
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: mugrad99 on January 07, 2011, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 07, 2011, 01:35:02 PM
Thank you.  The marginal benefit that his height brings on the perimeter is negated by the fact that he doesn't use it in other ways.

And let me also point out that there are 30 NBA GMs that basically agree with me...and they know a hell of a lot more about basketball than I, or anyone else on this board does.

Are you really going to include the T'Wolves GM in on that statement?  ;D
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: icheights on January 07, 2011, 03:09:37 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 07, 2011, 01:35:02 PM
Thank you.  The marginal benefit that his height brings on the perimeter is negated by the fact that he doesn't use it in other ways.

And let me also point out that there are 30 NBA GMs that basically agree with me...and they know a hell of a lot more about basketball than I, or anyone else on this board does.

Marginal?  I believe 4" on a jump shot is much more than a marginal difference(even the 30 GMs in the league would agree).  
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: HouWarrior on January 07, 2011, 05:11:52 PM
The Rockets, and then coach Van Gundy were most down on him on his lack of rebounding, and MAINLY, his poor defensive skills. As a defender you are to position side to side and keep the man in front of you. I saw way to many times his feet crossover with his man scooting past, and his court awareness, position, switching and defensive help skills just werent NBA quality. Robert Horry, and Matt Bullard were Rocket tall 3 point spot ups also(with long careers), but Steve just never showed, here in Houston, much talent/development of skills beyond his great stroke.Here is the greatest moment for Novak as a pro, which preserved the Rockets second longest win streak in NBA history(22 games):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHKWJ8yCqBE
Title: Re: Novak waived by Mavs.
Post by: Avenue Commons on January 07, 2011, 10:16:58 PM
This is Novak's fifth year in the league. Even if he doesn't get another chance, that's a pretty legit resume.
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