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Title: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 08, 2007, 06:30:31 AM
I'll admit that I don't always give the man enough credit. But, it was absolutely brilliant of him to hide Kinsella until the last month of his eligibility and then spring Mike on the basketball world. Coaches now are rewriting their playbooks to defend him. And whoever said TC hasn't recruited a big man anyway?
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: Big Papi on March 08, 2007, 08:31:30 AM
Kinsella has proven that if he would have had any luck whatsoever and had fewer ailments, he would have been a solid contributer as he does have some nice skill sets.  Unfortunately, he missed multiple months every season and was never able to build upon that skill set and his confidence in general.  I guess Kinsella just feels more comfortable playing the 3 instead of banging down low.  Who knew.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: CTWarrior on March 08, 2007, 08:32:59 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 08, 2007, 06:30:31 AM
I'll admit that I don't always give the man enough credit. But, it was absolutely brilliant of him to hide Kinsella until the last month of his eligibility and then spring Mike on the basketball world. Coaches now are rewriting their playbooks to defend him. And whoever said TC hasn't recruited a big man anyway?

LOL, 4ever.  That was a good one.  I was thinking the same thing last night. 
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on March 08, 2007, 08:55:04 AM
This is truly amazing. Kinsella has gone from the latest in Marquette's storied history of big white stiffs to being a folk hero almost overnight. :D
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: ecompt on March 08, 2007, 08:58:54 AM
The funny thing was, the ESPN guy (Shulman) kept talking about how Kinsella was a one-trick pony (a 3-point specialist). I said to my wife, "Two minutes against Pitt and he became a 3-point specialist?" He had never before attempted a 3-pointer at MU. Funny how two baskets change the national perception.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: AlumKCof93 on March 08, 2007, 09:11:07 AM
If you're impressed by Kinsella, just wait for tonight.  A source tells me that Burke has mad point guard skills and will be replacing DJ in breaking the press.  His range exceeds Kinsella so tonight should be fun.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 08, 2007, 09:30:28 AM
It was funny watching the Pitt game yesterday knowing what was going to happen...right when Kinsella checked in Sean McDonough started talking about him and the range he had shown...he obviously had done his homework and actually watched practice and saw what MU had in store for Pitt and Gray that night. Dick Vitale on the other hand was oddly silent leading me to believe he had not done the same amount pf preparation.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: AlumKCof93 on March 08, 2007, 09:48:09 AM
The only preparation Vitale does is to talk to his favorite coaches before the game and then he proceeds to talk about those coaches even if the game doesn't involve them. You know during every game he is going to talk about Coach K, Knight and Pitino.  He'll also mention the alternating possession instead of the jump ball, his one eye and his list of diaper dandies, etc.  He rarely discusses the players in the game unless it involves a high profile team such as Duke or UNC.  He' all schtick.

I'd take McDonough or anyone else that prepares for the game over Vitale any day.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: Mayor McCheese on March 08, 2007, 10:03:13 AM
Quote from: ecompt on March 08, 2007, 08:58:54 AM
The funny thing was, the ESPN guy (Shulman) kept talking about how Kinsella was a one-trick pony (a 3-point specialist). I said to my wife, "Two minutes against Pitt and he became a 3-point specialist?" He had never before attempted a 3-pointer at MU. Funny how two baskets change the national perception.

Shulman called Kinsella a 3-point specialist when he entered the Pitt game, has yet to attempt a three on the year, I laughed shrugged it off looked at my friends and said no, hes not a 3-point threat, he proved me wrong, I guess.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: mosarsour on March 08, 2007, 10:11:48 AM
Apparantly from what I've heard Kinsella was a 50% three point shooter in high school and JUCO.  So there was some research done on Shulman's part before the Pitt game.  He knew something we didn't.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on March 08, 2007, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 08, 2007, 06:30:31 AM
I'll admit that I don't always give the man enough credit. But, it was absolutely brilliant of him to hide Kinsella until the last month of his eligibility and then spring Mike on the basketball world. Coaches now are rewriting their playbooks to defend him. And whoever said TC hasn't recruited a big man anyway?

I know this is sarcasim, but I think it does show that recruiting is not a perfect science. I doubt Kinsella would have been this good for 3 years if he had been healthy, but he might have been a solid contributer.

There is no way for the coaches to predict that he would have injury problems and not be able to play consistantly the past 3 years.

My point is, sometimes you get a little lucky and a guy greatly exceeds expectations (Nick Fazekus and Patrick O'Bryant and even Ooze come to mind) and sometimes guys get hurt, or distracted, (kinsella and Lott was hurt last year as well).

Coaches can't really control that.

I think MU has been in the hunt for some quality bigs, and I think they have landed some guys with some talent... but they just haven't developed the way the coaches had planned.
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 08, 2007, 05:11:52 PM
I would say that Mike Kinsella has been playing like he's "lottery value" the last 2 games.   :)
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: BigSky on March 09, 2007, 10:50:35 AM
Actually....Dan Shulman who is always well prepared....knows that Kinsella drains 3's in practice all the time.  He also knows Kinsella won the 3 point contest pre-season at MU.....he also knows that this is a recent thing in games, that he is a perimeter player, who struggles with footspeed and strength defending inside. 


His analysis of Kensella and extra information the past two MU games was dead on money. 
Title: Re: The Genius Of Tom Crean
Post by: bma725 on March 09, 2007, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: BigSky on March 09, 2007, 10:50:35 AM
Actually....Dan Shulman who is always well prepared....knows that Kinsella drains 3's in practice all the time.  He also knows Kinsella won the 3 point contest pre-season at MU.....he also knows that this is a recent thing in games, that he is a perimeter player, who struggles with footspeed and strength defending inside. 


His analysis of Kensella and extra information the past two MU games was dead on money. 

Kinsella didnt' win the 3 point contest, he lost in the semi-finals to Acker.  Cubillan beat Acker in the final.
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